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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: TheFakeSunRa] 1
#27637114 - 01/29/22 07:36 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Yes but people dont generally show up to meetings, whip out a bottle and say I only drank this much, he's new and needs help, but there could be other new people who sees the bottle and its a huge trigger
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: gopher] 3
#27637132 - 01/29/22 07:55 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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gopher said: Yes but people dont generally show up to meetings, whip out a bottle and say I only drank this much, he's new and needs help, but there could be other new people who sees the bottle and its a huge trigger
The third tradition is crystal clear.
Triggers aren’t a concern at AA meetings. Helping the alcoholic who still suffers is paramount. We are not afraid of the alcoholic no matter the crimes or behavior.

Yes, I’ve seen members come into meetings all kinds of fucked up.
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: CaptainTrips420]
#27637589 - 01/29/22 02:32 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Hey man I have certainly been there before as well. I am also a PM away dude if you ever need help or want to know more about AA.
I only have like 10 months so far but I stay sober 1 day at a time.
I have worked all the steps and i know of a really good online meeting that kicks ass.
All the best man
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Anonymous #24]
#27637601 - 01/29/22 02:42 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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I also know a meeting that kicks ass, but its SLAA not AA, but its also a Big Book meeting so the addiction dosnt really matter when you are talking about the BigBook, its Wednesdays at 7pm EST if anyone wants to go I willpost the zoom deets, its OPEN so you dont have to identify as a sex and love addict, they also secretly want codependants there, but there was a huge drama putting "codepedants welcome" in the info, we almost got delisted
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: gopher]
#27639838 - 01/31/22 04:00 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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My sponsor said my plan for step 9 is half measuring the program, and he brings up good points, its gophers will creeping in and fear .I'm at the tipping point, I just want to send out letters for step 9, her wants me to do video conferencing
This is where I drop outta program, cause I can't have my way LOL
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: gopher]
#27639861 - 01/31/22 04:14 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Switch up sponsors.
If you can, I’m not sure the rules on that.
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Amanita86]
#27639882 - 01/31/22 04:33 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah you can fire sponsors at will
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Amanita86]
#27639924 - 01/31/22 05:03 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: Switch up sponsors.
If you can, I’m not sure the rules on that.
There aren’t any rules. I do feel some reservations about people who arent focused on recovery from ALCOHOLISM on here
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#27639931 - 01/31/22 05:09 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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I'm not focused on recovery from alcohol, I took some kratom last year and thought alcohol is icky now
I'm interested in a program for living
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: gopher] 2
#27639942 - 01/31/22 05:16 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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There are no rules on changing sponsors, it's even recommended after a while with a particular sponsor. Finding one that can help guide you through the steps and that you can open up to is what helps and matters. Whatever it takes to end the insanity!!! AA, NA, CA are all ways of living life on lifes terms.
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Doc9151]
#27639972 - 01/31/22 05:44 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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My sponsor is good, its just I want to send out amends letters instead of doing it face to face, a thing he said is we crawl before no one, and I was like fuck why'd he say that, I know he's telling me the right thing to do now, but I still dont want to do it
I just wanted to stay abstinate from masterbaiting to porn and I've done that, and abstain from alcohol and I've done that before even entering program, and not rely on any drug I have to take every day, like weed or kratom or coca, and I've done that
But if I dont do the face to face amends how am I supposed to tell a sponsee to
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: gopher]
#27639994 - 01/31/22 06:09 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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I'm not focused on recovery from alcohol
Then you should take it to another thread
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#27640002 - 01/31/22 06:20 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Fuck that, the AA big book is the undiluted message, I just replace drinking with thinking, to think is to die, I have no defense against the first thought
The fact that I'm only a type 2 alcoholic dosnt mean I can't follow the instructions for living, I'm in the grips of a progressive disease that gets worse never better, I have but a daily reprieve contingent on the maintenance of my spiritual condition
Dosnt matter if your addiction is alcohol, drugs, overeating, pornography, sex, love, codepedancy, internet, its all the same solution
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: gopher] 1
#27640039 - 01/31/22 07:03 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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My home group states directly at the beginning of every meeting that although you might have other addictions and problems all comments are to be specifically about your recovery from alcoholism.
If you start talking other shit the chair will silence you. It’s not called the all purpose 12 Step Group. It’s not even called a 12 step program. It’s specifically and directly called Alcoholics Anonymous because it’s for alcoholics recovering from their struggle with alcoholism.
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: gopher] 1
#27640045 - 01/31/22 07:05 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Their is no such thing as type 1 or 2 alcoholic, an alcoholic is an alcoholic just as an addict is an addict, there's no difference between them as far as the outcome of using. Edit: You haven't been listening to the literature! While alcoholism is a progressive disease, it CAN be arrested and recovery is possible!!!
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#27640089 - 01/31/22 07:42 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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The three types of alcoholics are listed on the bottom of 20 and the top of 21
Moderate drinkers have no problem giving it up (type 1)
Then you have a certain type of hard drinker, he may have the habit bad enough to impair him physical or mentally, but if sufficiently strong reason becomes operative, I'll health, warning from a doctor or authority, new love, he is able to quit or moderate (type 2)
Then you have the real addict, he may start off as a moderate drinker, he may or may not become a continuous hard drinker, but at some stage of his drinking career he begins to lose all control of his liquor consumption once he begins to drink (type 3)
And the literature literally says we have a daily reprieve contingent on the maintenance of our spiritual condition, you think I could make somethinglike that up myself?
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TheFakeSunRa said: My home group states directly at the beginning of every meeting that although you might have other addictions and problems all comments are to be specifically about your recovery from alcoholism.
If you start talking other shit the chair will silence you. It’s not called the all purpose 12 Step Group. It’s not even called a 12 step program. It’s specifically and directly called Alcoholics Anonymous because it’s for alcoholics recovering from their struggle with alcoholism.
Fine, I'll peace out of this thread and make my own
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#27640094 - 01/31/22 07:45 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Wait, before I peace out I want to drop 125
We addicts are sensitive people. It takes some of us a long time to outgrow this serious handicap.
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: gopher]
#27640698 - 02/01/22 10:34 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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I have a legitimate question. I think I got step one but step 2 I have a lot of trouble with and it because I think my higher power is LSD. I’m serious I wanted to join a religion called the League for Spiritual Discovery I think I can only better myself with LSD. But if I told AA that I don’t think they would agree. I know LSD is good for me but not everyone thinks so. I don’t believe in god completely I’m open to the idea but this whole higher power thing makes me not want to go to meetings. I’m considering going to them sometime.
I was at a store with liquor and groceries and was really tempted to drink but I realized I shouldn’t LSD played a role though I’m saving money for it. I think I’ll start taking not drinking seriously but I have really strong cravings for it constantly.
Also step 3 should I start devoting my life to psychedelics? That’s what I want to do but I don’t want to get arrested. I think I need to rethink my life but the only way I ever have a moment of clarity is when I’m tripping out. I think I did damage to my brain though like a chemical imbalance or something. I am not happy with my life. I can do step one but the 2 and 3 are difficult for me.
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#27640792 - 02/01/22 11:21 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Captaintrips420, Dont over think it. Step 2: Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
That power doesn't have to be a God, it can be anything. My power doesn't really have a single name, I just feel that there is something that is much bigger and more powerful than myself and this power has laid out choices for me and depending on what choices I make, will determine what the outcome will be. I don't know who or what this force is, but if I pay attention, I can see that it is trying to guide me through the paths but my actions will alter the course and consequences.
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: CaptainTrips420] 1
#27640843 - 02/01/22 11:51 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Your higher power can be anything you choose including LSD.
I don’t want to debate it here but I strongly discourage people from advocating for self-medication through microdosing. I know this will sound like a contradiction but I still think making LSD your higher power makes sense and I know others have done it and made it work.
My advice though is don’t make your future self beholden to the beliefs of your present / past self. By that I mean, don’t just take LSD because you feel like you’re supposed to. I’m sure you’re an experienced tripper but it isn’t like going to church. You still have to make sure your head is in the right space before dropping acid. That’s what I think about it anyway.
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