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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Roostertail]
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: micro]
#22939726 - 02/24/16 03:17 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have been trying to quit drinking on and off for at least the last 8 years. Even during the darker times, a small part of me always held hope for a brighter future. When I typically quit drinking (my breaks last anywhere from a month to half a year), I usually find myself elated by all the simple little pleasures of life that we addicts tend to forget about. I become passionate again, my appetite for reading books and watching films becomes voracious. I get back into the things that used to really matter to me, like photography or playing guitar, writing, etc. I basically get this crazy flood of creative inspiration. It's pretty thrilling, honestly. I guess in AA (which I attended briefly when I was much younger), they refer to this sort of early sober bliss as the "pink fluffy cloud". They even caution you about it. The problem is that this excitement doesn't last forever, maybe you can surf that wave for a month or several, but it definitely subsides.
And then you're left to deal with the raw stresses of life - society and all of its deplorable and unsavory characters, bills, shitty jobs, and worst of all you're left with your self and all of your anxieties and memories of a sketchy past. Basically, I'm left remembering why it is that I drink in the first place, because life's a bitch. It's a beautiful thing, but god damnit it's fucking hard.
The last break I had was 2 months and 23 days. I was incredibly inspired and jazzed up to finally get on with my filmmaking career. I had several scripts I was writing and had targeted certain screenplay contest deadlines for places such as Austin Film Festival and the likes. I was going downtown almost every day the entire summer and working on my street photography, candidly photographing strangers, which I had never had the balls to do. I was just really passionate again and that felt amazing. Then somewhere around the end of that second month, something changed. The thrill was gone. That boredom started to creep in, that sneaky fuck, as it always does. Then I became more and more apathetic, slowly gave up on my creative endeavors and literally spent the last few weeks of my sobriety sitting at my writing desk staring at the wall. It wasn't even sadness necessarily, it was just...nothing. Perhaps reading Camus' The Myth of Sisyphus during that time wasn't helping, but I basically just felt really uninterested in life all of a sudden.
The day I relapsed, there was a massive thunderstorm. I had bought the booze already but it was sitting in my fridge, unopened. I was sitting at my desk by the window trying really hard to remind myself of the exhaustive list of reasons to not relapse. I'm honest enough with myself, and have relapsed in my life too many times, to paint that foolish picture of "well maybe things can be different this time". I knew without question that I would immediately once again become an ocean of booze. I had zero reservations or hope for "moderation". I knew I would again become a hopeless lousy bum, without merit or dreams. And literally, all the while my conscience is having this battle, right out the window it's pouring down rain and thundering harder than I've ever witnessed before (and I've lived in Seattle my entire life). The rain was almost deafening and there was lightning all across the sky, and this lasted a solid 30 minutes. I don't tend to believe in the paranormal, but at that moment I truly felt like something out there was trying its hardest to send me a message. Strange things happen all the time, but this felt like something else. The dramatic tension of that moment was astounding. And even in the weight of that moment, I decided to drink anyway. That, is the insane and merciless part of an alcoholic's brain. There is no reason or logic to it.
I still wish for a sober life, but relapsing that last time was downright disheartening. I truly believed that was the one shot that would stick and that things were finally shifting for me. I don't really know how to climb back up into the saddle this time. I feel like a broken person. Sometimes it feels like maybe I'm just cracked in a few places, at other times it's as if my soul's been shattered into a thousand shards, and piecing it all back together would be an act of futility. I don't feel like I really want anything in this life anymore, and the dramatic shift between really feeling inspired vs feeling absolutely nothing is heartbreaking. I've always told myself "don't worry, one day you'll figure this shit out and become that better person". But after all the relapses, I've recently been asking myself what if this is it? What if this is all I'll ever be as a man on this earth? Fuck.
Sorry, this was way longer than I intended. The bottom line I guess, is that I might just be finally willing to give AA another shot. I've lost people and had friends OD, several times in the past few years. I'm getting older and this shit seems to be getting more real. I don't know how many more chances I'll be blessed with in this life, but I know they aren't infinite. I just wish I could force myself to care more, and to care more consistently. It's pretty sad when you know you're a decent person with a good heart, yet find yourself living in such miserable conditions. How could one choose to live this way?
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Soularize]
#22940165 - 02/24/16 09:09 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for sharing that Soul. I've been a sober member of AA for a few 24 hrs. and have sponsored many...some have kept with the program and are living sober,peaceful and giving lives....Others have died as a direct result of this disease...taking their will back like you mentioned. One thing I have noticed is that "pink cloud" that you mention...almost everyone rides this feeling for a while as a direct result of getting the poisons out of your system and just "not drinking"...eating regularly, maybe taking B vitamins or exercising ..all make you feel great. The problem is that the "newness" of this tends to wear off after a few months. In actuality,from what I've seen...most people that go back out and test the waters again do so around the 8 month sober mark.
The reason that I have witnessed is that none of them have actually worked the "program" of AA...they just hang around for the camaraderie....I've seen it over and over.
The program of AA ....the steps...give you a defense against that first drink, at least as much as one can have. There are very difficult and personal challenges that the steps invoke...but nothing will help insulate us from that first drink more than these steps....particularly the 12th. But they are in order for a reason...and, there is a lot of work to be done before the 12th step...(the helping others step).There is the 1st step...the only one that must be done 100%...You're admission that booze kicked your ass...you lost...it won. Then, the 2nd and 3rd steps which helps you come to terms with a power bigger than you and then asking that power to help you not take a drink and to do his or her will. The 4th and 5th steps are about writing your character defects down as they related to people you have wronged...then telling another human being everything about yourself..what is written and also what is good about you. The 6th and 7th are about asking this higher power you have found to take away those defects that stand in the way of recovery.
The 8th and 9th are amends steps...taking the list of people you harmed from step 4 and making direct amends to them when possible...some of these continue for the rest of your life.
The 10th step is a continuous daily review of yourself...making amends right away as they pop up...and they will pop up.
11th step is about retaining your contact with this higher power through prayer and meditation.
12th is what keeps me sober more than anything, and the big book even says this...it is helping others and it works in a very simple way...my brain is incapable of feeling sorry for myself when I am at least thinking about helping someone...whether they are in or out of the rooms. Nothing, the book says, insures sobriety more than this...especially, but not limited to another alcoholic.
So Soul, this is the path to take if you want prolonged sobriety and the thing that I cherish more than anything..."peace of mind" while being sober. Get a home group, a sponsor and a big book ...your sponsor should be someone in the program that you want what they have....that has a working knowledge of the 12 steps and will help you through them. This is not an easy program but the rewards are immense.
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Thayendanegea]
#22940786 - 02/24/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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soularize you just summed it up. its that drive for me that all ive done and haven't done that never stops. keeps me at a state of self loathing even when im active and doing all i can to forget that need. its just like it never ends in the back of my mind that i can cure all this with one sip of a liquid.
my current fuck up is im moving, got a new job with more pressure than i know what to do with, and my current female friend is over me. making that two exes that im working with. starting to lose my hair at 23 and i have no idea what the fuck is wrong. if i can cure all this crippling pain with a sip then im honestly saying fuck it. i have valium so im going to give it one more shot to taper but fuck just feel like theres no point anymore
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#22941793 - 02/24/16 05:38 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Rebelutionsssss said: soularize you just summed it up. its that drive for me that all ive done and haven't done that never stops. keeps me at a state of self loathing even when im active and doing all i can to forget that need. its just like it never ends in the back of my mind that i can cure all this with one sip of a liquid.
my current fuck up is im moving, got a new job with more pressure than i know what to do with, and my current female friend is over me. making that two exes that im working with. starting to lose my hair at 23 and i have no idea what the fuck is wrong. if i can cure all this crippling pain with a sip then im honestly saying fuck it. i have valium so im going to give it one more shot to taper but fuck just feel like theres no point anymore
Best way to grow hair is to stop masturbating to internet porn. Going 90 days with no masturbation or porn will cause your testosterone levels to skyrocket and your hair will come back.
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Thayendanegea]
#22941933 - 02/24/16 06:06 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for the response Thay.
I was actually in AA when I was about 18, and again for another stretch when I was 21. I have to be honest, I really did not feel like I fit in there at all, and it had nothing to do with me not thinking I had a problem etc. I've always had an easy time admitting that I'm an alcoholic, so there's no denial in me about it, and that was about a decade ago. I really didn't find a lot of people that I could relate to beyond the fact that we were all afflicted, and maybe that's the point? I don't know, just seemed like all the people I met in AA just wanted to go hang out at Denny's, smoke cigarettes, drink coffee, and talk more about sobriety and the big book. You all state that AA isn't religious, but you must surely be able to see how the program can at least feel and appear that way to certain people?
The fact that you guys will tell a person with total conviction that if they don't follow your 12 steps, and only these exact 12 steps, that they won't be able to stay sober, is simply BS. I bought into that when I was a kid. As an adult, I've met quite a few people who were absolute trainwrecks of addicts and alchys at some point, but then managed to get sober and stay that way for years...without AA.
AA is but one option, and I'm happy for anyone who benefits from it to the point that it essentially saves their life, but I think the program's whole statement of "our way or the highway" is both arrogant and misleading. I do believe that for someone to stay sober, they simply have to WANT it more than they want to drink, and I'm pretty sure that's been my problem. Also you mentioned the most important of the 12 steps involved helping others, which anyone can do within or outside of AA.
Am I really supposed to believe, that in this vast universe, there are only literally 12 exact steps that one must follow to get sober? Really? The odds of that seem astronomically slim to me. And to be fair, isn't the efficacy rate of AA something like 10% or less? I'm not totally trying to knock AA here, but it sure feels like there must be other routes to sobriety for those who don't feel like they fit in as well with the AA crowd.
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Soularize]
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Shane alcoholic.. I came to share tonight.. I got my heart broken really bad recently.. Almost beyond repair.. I haven't drink. I'm going to meetings and crying my eyes out. Its hard yo accept I can never have this woman and it hurts so terrible.. I've been in another world.. That's all I got..
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Soularize]
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JustForToday said: Shane alcoholic.. I came to share tonight.. I got my heart broken really bad recently.. Almost beyond repair.. I haven't drink. I'm going to meetings and crying my eyes out. Its hard yo accept I can never have this woman and it hurts so terrible.. I've been in another world.. That's all I got..
i feel you man, just lost a women myself. but you can never give up hope. when you're up its never as good as it seems and when you're down you never think you're going to be up again but life goes on.Quote:
Soularize said: Thanks for the response Thay.
I was actually in AA when I was about 18, and again for another stretch when I was 21. I have to be honest, I really did not feel like I fit in there at all, and it had nothing to do with me not thinking I had a problem etc. I've always had an easy time admitting that I'm an alcoholic, so there's no denial in me about it, and that was about a decade ago. I really didn't find a lot of people that I could relate to beyond the fact that we were all afflicted, and maybe that's the point? I don't know, just seemed like all the people I met in AA just wanted to go hang out at Denny's, smoke cigarettes, drink coffee, and talk more about sobriety and the big book. You all state that AA isn't religious, but you must surely be able to see how the program can at least feel and appear that way to certain people?
The fact that you guys will tell a person with total conviction that if they don't follow your 12 steps, and only these exact 12 steps, that they won't be able to stay sober, is simply BS. I bought into that when I was a kid. As an adult, I've met quite a few people who were absolute trainwrecks of addicts and alchys at some point, but then managed to get sober and stay that way for years...without AA.
AA is but one option, and I'm happy for anyone who benefits from it to the point that it essentially saves their life, but I think the program's whole statement of "our way or the highway" is both arrogant and misleading. I do believe that for someone to stay sober, they simply have to WANT it more than they want to drink, and I'm pretty sure that's been my problem. Also you mentioned the most important of the 12 steps involved helping others, which anyone can do within or outside of AA.
Am I really supposed to believe, that in this vast universe, there are only literally 12 exact steps that one must follow to get sober? Really? The odds of that seem astronomically slim to me. And to be fair, isn't the efficacy rate of AA something like 10% or less? I'm not totally trying to knock AA here, but it sure feels like there must be other routes to sobriety for those who don't feel like they fit in as well with the AA crowd.
for the majority of people AA does not work
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#22943807 - 02/25/16 08:03 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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How's your way working out for ya Reb?...In my experience...most people that diss AA have never put both feet in...it is really the disease protecting itself. I never said the program was for everyone...it is for people that have tried other ways and are desperate to stop drinking. @ Soul...if you are finding people that you don't connect with in AA...then go to other meetings...we have groups that go on white water rafting trips, bowling nights...etc. I always had parties at my house for friends both in and out of AA...some drink some don't. You can't tell the difference. No one outside of the rooms knows I'm in AA except the ones closest to me. As far as the steps go....it's kind of a "not broke, don't fix it kind of thing." Millions of hopeless alcoholics have recovered using them and many other groups use them in their recoveries. They work...attempts at doing modified programs usually fail.
It says in how it works..."If you want what we have and are willing to go to any length"...If not, nobody is holding anyone to the fire....Alcoholism will usually kick you enough down the road to make you willing...sad truth.
Alcoholism has no cure ....there is no silver bullet. I, myself have tried other ways and disputed AA for years before I got sober...eventually, the disease beat me into submission and I was lucky enough to be alive to do something about it.
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Thayendanegea]
#22943856 - 02/25/16 08:28 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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AA is cool and has saved the lives of a couple of people I know and love. People tend to get a bit dogmatic with it but if the program you work is actually one of spiritual action you can find some peace in it. I was completely sober for over 3.5 years rebel and picked up the pots down the line. Two of those years I was very active in AA. It was a very important time in my life and taught me a lot about my character defects. Once I learned how to be comfortable in my own skin I didn't need AA any more. I smoke pot these days but I haven't had a sip of booze in over 5 years.
People knock AA all the time, because they are forced in to it and don't like it. It's pretty silly though because AA has hundreds of thousands of meetings (millions even??) and next to no employees. People rag on their success rate but of the 90-95% of the people who fail most of them never work a step or attempt to actually take an "inventory". They go in, get all emo, make a bunch of amends before working any other steps, don't get a (good) sponsor, then go smoke crack.
Mushrooms, AA, and Music have had more impact on me than anything else in my life. Don't knock the mighty rhythm that underlay all until you try it. AA isn't the only way but it's a way. Anyone who says otherwise likely hasn't had Family members and multiple friends' lives saved by it.
I rarely talk about my past on this website, but I figured you might enjoy the input rebel since we've talked before.
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Big Bear]
#22944279 - 02/25/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Big Bear said: AA is cool and has saved the lives of a couple of people I know and love. People tend to get a bit dogmatic with it but if the program you work is actually one of spiritual action you can find some peace in it. I was completely sober for over 3.5 years rebel and picked up the pots down the line. Two of those years I was very active in AA. It was a very important time in my life and taught me a lot about my character defects. Once I learned how to be comfortable in my own skin I didn't need AA any more. I smoke pot these days but I haven't had a sip of booze in over 5 years.
People knock AA all the time, because they are forced in to it and don't like it. It's pretty silly though because AA has hundreds of thousands of meetings (millions even??) and next to no employees. People rag on their success rate but of the 90-95% of the people who fail most of them never work a step or attempt to actually take an "inventory". They go in, get all emo, make a bunch of amends before working any other steps, don't get a (good) sponsor, then go smoke crack.
Mushrooms, AA, and Music have had more impact on me than anything else in my life. Don't knock the mighty rhythm that underlay all until you try it. AA isn't the only way but it's a way. Anyone who says otherwise likely hasn't had Family members and multiple friends' lives saved by it.
I rarely talk about my past on this website, but I figured you might enjoy the input rebel since we've talked before.
Thank you for that!
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Thayendanegea]
#22944301 - 02/25/16 10:40 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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thanks guys i really do appreciate everyone on this site who trys to help others when they can. maybe i should just go in listen. when anything gets rough first thing i go for is the bottle. ive cut out hard alcohol which i think has saved me a shit ton of hell but i still drink every day. wine is a big thing for me because i get it for free. hard as fuck to stop when ive been drinking pretty heavily since 16.
ive been slapped in the face by psilocybin so many timesi cant count literally telling me through music or other mediums " when is this going to stop?!?!? when youre dead?!" but my stuborn ass just keeps going back and i dont know why
i need to learn to take my teachers words to heart but, im just lost. its the only thing thats consistently been there for me in my life.
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#22944936 - 02/25/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Reb, it's worth checking out if you haven't. I just didn't have a good experience with it personally. Of the 3 sponsors I had, two of them actually relapsed, and one of them was just a total jerk who on the very first weekend we met to go through the big book, had me drive him all around town to help him do his errands and grocery shopping (wtf). Of course, because they tell you if you're desperate to get sober then you will do anything you're asked of by your sponsor, etc. Regardless, I felt like he was taking advantage with that.
So, you can see why the program left a sour taste in my mouth. I will say that I met a few friends back then in the program who were among the kindest and best people I've ever met. There are plenty of kind souls to be found in the rooms of AA, just wish I could've found a better sponsor. Also, I have pretty serious anxiety when having to sit still in a room packed with 40-80 other people. AA or not, I really do wish that I had some sort of support network or just a few more sober friends. Most of my friends that I have left at this point are drinking buddies, people who I essentially have to cut out of my life when I stop drinking, and then I'm pretty much on my own.
I might have to just go check out a meeting this weekend and be one of those strangers who stands in the back lol
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Soularize]
#22945320 - 02/25/16 02:47 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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In Baltimore, we have a shit ton of different meetings....there's young people meetings, women only, men only,gay meetings,Midnight candelite meetings...meetings under the stars in the summer at a park. And, the good ole grumpy old man meetings in the city...I kinda like them...you hear some pretty amazing stories.
IDK...I'm lucky I guess...I think there's over 600 meetings in a given week. My home group is a 7:00 am meeting with mostly guys that work...some white collar, some blue...a few women. Sometimes if I need some laborers at my business, I'll get a guy who's struggling ..to help me out and pay him under the table.
I can identify with everyone in this thread...mostly because I've had a lot of the same feelings at one time or another...but, like I said...this disease is the only disease that tells you ...you don't have a disease....It constantly protects itself and will win over and over in any argument in your head....You cannot out-think it. That is the sole reason for the higher power...asking that power on a daily basis to protect you from yourself...from a drink....Prayer really does work guys...and Prayer with works is why I am sober today...I make no bones about that.
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Thayendanegea]
#22946433 - 02/25/16 08:13 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Kicking heroin again... I've done this so many times and the suffering is so large I don't know if I can do it again. Day 3 and night 2... The pain and suffering will be one of the worst tonight and tomorrow night.
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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That must really suck!....do you have any kratom....I understand that helps with the withdrawals.
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#22949931 - 02/26/16 07:36 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Only if you don't work it. I haven't been to a meeting or worked the program in years, but if wasn't for NA I wouldn't be here now. Diving headfirst into the program after rehab was a gamechanger. I stayed clean, I worked on my defects & found recovery. If you take it seriously & work the program you'll find recovery. If you don't you won't. It's that simple.
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Thayendanegea]
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Thayendanegea said: That must really suck!....do you have any kratom....I understand that helps with the withdrawals.
Nope no kratom. Just xanax and seroquel. Yes it's horrible to say the least.
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Hang in there & get it over with. Gonna have to go through it eventually. You've got this man.
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous (Come and share thread) [Re: Dark_Star]
#22954629 - 02/28/16 09:37 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Dark star what is your sober date. I'll add it.
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