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OfflineHidingInPlainSight
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Remote Desktop Management for Novell Networks
    #2255300 - 01/20/04 07:38 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

I am currently at a school/organization that monitors EVERYTHING we look at.

They use Remote Desktop Management for ZENWorks so they can take a peek whenever they want and see what we are doing.

The main programs they run are:

wuser32.exe and WUOLService.exe

Whenever I try to end these processes I get an "Access Denied" error message.

Is there any way/program that I could use to end these processes or somehow prevent them from spying on me, without pulling the network cable? (No point in doing that, I need to be on the Internet.)

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Re: Remote Desktop Management for Novell Networks [Re: HidingInPlainSight]
    #2255602 - 01/20/04 09:34 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

The reason you can't stop them is becasue you don't have permission to.

Your network admin. has given his user account permission to do whatever he/she wants. But you, the end user has only a few access rights given to your account.

I can't tell you how to do it...

Good Luck
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Re: Remote Desktop Management for Novell Networks [Re: Lana]
    #2255622 - 01/20/04 09:40 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Can you not tell me because you don't know how? or because its a moral issue?

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Re: Remote Desktop Management for Novell Networks [Re: HidingInPlainSight]
    #2255644 - 01/20/04 09:47 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

> Can you not tell me because you don't know how? or because its a moral issue?

I can't speak for Lana, but for me to help, you didn't provide enough information... and even if you did, I probably still wouldn't take the time needed to type up how to circumvent security.

A few pointers to help:

1) what file system? FAT or NTFS... this makes a huge difference.
2a) FAT filesystem... easy, boot from floppy and hack away at the hard drive.
2b) NTFS... hard, depends upon security constraints, encrypted file system, etc.
3) physical access to machine... remove the hard drive and drop it in another box.

Going in as a regular user to try and disable something that admin setup is going to be like running head first into a brick wall. You are either going to have to find a way to gain local admin rights, or a way to get at the boot device before the OS loads.


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Re: Remote Desktop Management for Novell Networks [Re: Seuss]
    #2255772 - 01/20/04 10:40 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

:smile:

Both, there are so many variables with what you'd like to do.  When you get into network security its like explaining to a mechanic that you car is making a "clunking" sound... 

Its not as easy to just say "do this.. this and this.."

Although there are ways around monitoring software.  See if you can get another account setup.  Maybe you have a "friend" that needs it setup.  If you're in a college, sometimes it may be as simple as asking.  I knew a girl who got a few accounts setup when she attended a university.  She would meet freshmen who were dropping out and ask for their accounts.  She got on via a laptop in the libraries, other peoples dorms, etc...  The MAC adddy in her laptop was logged but... nevermind, I'm not going into mac addressing :smile:

Also, can you find out how often the logs are monitored/kept?  Many placed implement monitoring software, and many don't use it correctly or even "monitor" it. 

Sometimes the best way to get around something isn't by disabling it or "deleting" it...  but simply by going around it :smile:

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Re: Remote Desktop Management for Novell Networks [Re: HidingInPlainSight]
    #2256444 - 01/20/04 02:49 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

They aren't keeping logs. The program allows them to see a real-time view of my desktop, and take screenshots, etc.

The computer are running Windows XP Pro and are pretty tightly locked down.

My question is: If I can find out what port the program is connecting on, is there any way I can jam/block that port so no-one could have access through it?

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Re: Remote Desktop Management for Novell Networks [Re: HidingInPlainSight]
    #2257928 - 01/20/04 09:56 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

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ledzepln86 said:
They aren't keeping logs. The program allows them to see a real-time view of my desktop, and take screenshots, etc.

The computer are running Windows XP Pro and are pretty tightly locked down.

My question is: If I can find out what port the program is connecting on, is there any way I can jam/block that port so no-one could have access through it?




There is no way to block the port on an XP machine in the way you are thinking. Your best bet is to get the password file and use a bruteforce attack to get the password. Other then that you are probably SOL. Zenworks is getting pretty good at locking down a computer.


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