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Smoking 'fry' isn't a normal teenage rite of passage
    #2255099 - 01/20/04 05:51 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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KIDS AND COMMUNITY: Smoking 'fry' isn't a normal teenage rite of passage
By: Judy Shepps Battle , Columnist 01/16/2004

KIDS AND COMMUNITY by Judy Shepps Battle: Marijuana joints soaked in embalming fluid are latest deadly drug trend.

Every generation exhibits behaviors that are intended to both baffle and offend parents and elders. Many of these adolescent provocations revolve around styles of music or dress and the use of illegal drugs. For the most part, such activities are harmless rites of passage.
There are, however, notable exceptions ? such as the emerging practice of getting high on marijuana joints that have been dipped or soaked in embalming fluid and laced with phencyclidine (PCP).
This drug combination is known as "fry" because, as one youth posted on the Internet, "Smoking it fries our brain." Other street terms are amp, illy, purple rain, wack, and wet. The latest reports indicate an increase of smoking fry on college campuses. If so, it is only a matter of time before we see this practice mimicked by secondary school students.

How It Works

The typical effects of smoking fry range from visual and auditory hallucinations, euphoria, and a feeling of invincibility, to anger, paranoia and forgetfulness. In extreme situations seizures, kidney failure, stroke, and coma also may occur.
Although users report that these super-joints "taste like rubbing alcohol and smell like gasoline," the attraction is in the nature of the high, which can last from six to 30 hours. Also, the product is fairly inexpensive, generally $20 to $35 per cigarette, if purchased on the street.
Unfortunately, studies indicate that most young buyers are unaware that the marijuana mixture contains PCP and believe it has been laced only with embalming fluid. This is a critical oversight because sensory distortions and delusions fueled by PCP may have serious consequences.
One smoker reports experiencing blurred vision and impaired depth perception so great that she walked into the path of an oncoming car. Another remembers a feeling of super-strength and paranoia after excessive fry smoking, as well as how easily he was enraged.

Getting People to Imagine

A message on an Internet bulletin board from "Anonymous Stoner," a self-admitted fry user, says it best: "Wet [fry] is an embalming fluid that is used to preserve dead peoples' bodies. Why would you want that in your body? When you are on wet [fry] you look like you are dead. Imagine what it is doing to your insides!"
The task of parents, teachers and drug prevention specialists is to help teens and young adults choose to not experiment with this very dangerous chemical combination. And making that important choice means a youth must pause to imagine the consequences of smoking fr before lighting up.
On a practical level, this means publicizing both the presence of PCP in fry and the dangerous nature of PCP itself. It means capitalizing on the repulsive nature of embalming fluid and the fact that even druggies do not like fry.
It also means educating both lay people and medical/psychological professionals about the warning signs of fry use in young people ? unreasonable anger and frustration, depression, and physical violence.

Generational Signatures

Every generation has its signature rebellious style. In my youth it was loud rock-and-roll music and the protest folk music of the 60s. And while marijuana and cheap wine were our staples, it was LSD and other consciousness-expanding hallucinogens, such as magic mushrooms and peyote, that became our signature drugs.
I since have watched as generational music preferences changed to acid rock, heavy metal, rap, and rave, and I have seen new drugs, such as cocaine and Ecstasy, become the current fad.
I have a great respect for outrageous and rebellious behaviors that facilitate a healthy transition between adolescence and adulthood. The sometimes-shrieked statements that "my values are different from yours" and "you can't control what I think and do" are necessary and time-honored steps in growing up. But I believe that when a substance or practice is potentially life-threatening, this information needs to be well publicized.
I know that writing about a drug like fry can be a double-edge sword ? that even though it will dissuade some youngster from this dangerous practice, other risk-taking adolescents and young adults will be attracted to the drug flame because of what they are reading.
It is a chance I must take.
My hope is that adults who read this article will talk about fry to the young people in their lives in a calm and nonjudgmental fashion. I also hope they actively will listen to these young people when they share their thoughts on drugs, music, the difficulties of growing up, and anything else they might want to talk about.
Perhaps such a dialog will lead to a new signature ? one of compassion that transcends generations.

Judy Shepps Battle is a New Jersey resident, addictions specialist, consultant and freelance writer. She can be reached by e-mail at Judy@writeaction.com. Additional information on this and other topics can be found at her Web site at http://www.writeaction.com/.

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Re: Smoking 'fry' isn't a normal teenage rite of passage [Re: Anno]
    #2255272 - 01/20/04 09:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Please read this thread for dangers of this practice:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2255265


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Re: Smoking 'fry' isn't a normal teenage rite of passage [Re: Anno]
    #2255290 - 01/20/04 09:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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  Unfortunately, studies indicate that most young buyers are unaware that the marijuana mixture contains PCP and believe it has been laced only with embalming fluid.




damn
im pretty sure i'd rather be smoking a joint with PCP than with embalming fluid........... :shocked:


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Re: Smoking 'fry' isn't a normal teenage rite of passage [Re: Anno]
    #2255329 - 01/20/04 09:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I remember smoking that sh*t a few times in high school.

We called it wicky, code-name "wanna have fuunnn??" hehehe we were crazy hippie kids.

Dipped into cigarettes and also soaked onto oregano, but never soaked into pot.

The stuff was rather nightmarish, and got us incredibly fucked up.

One night i smoked that stuff and came home and ate cheese burgers with my mom and brother.
Boy was i f*cked up!~

The stuff is seriously very-very extremely unhealthy for you children.  :smirk:


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Re: Smoking 'fry' isn't a normal teenage rite of passage [Re: Anno]
    #2255348 - 01/20/04 10:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I remember  extremely long trails, in my vision.

And, walking was very difficult, it felt like i could only step one inch at a time.. like a damn zombie.

Like a zombie basically.

One time i saw somebody on it, he couldn't remember his name, he didn't know where he was, what state he was in, he didn't even recognize his girlfriend for a few hours. It was creepy.

I wouldn't recommend it to be used by anyone, its the only drug i would recommend high schoolers to stay clear of really, short of inhalents, the stuff is just wretched.

--But it sure was fun at the time.

I've done basically every drug there is, and 'fry' is the only one i sorta wish i never would have done, anything short of inhalents and whatnot.

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Re: Smoking 'fry' isn't a normal teenage rite of passage [Re: Anno]
    #2255357 - 01/20/04 10:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Smoking 'fry' isn't a normal teenage rite of passage [Re: Anno]
    #2257417 - 01/20/04 09:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

>>>>>such as the emerging practice of getting high on marijuana joints that have been dipped or soaked in embalming fluid and laced with phencyclidine (PCP).

Seems they are a bit confused, no one I know ever smoked actual embalming fluid (formaldehyde?). Although I have gotten into several arguments with friends that are convinced PCP is embalming fluid. Is formaldehyde even smokable? I thought it would evaporate long before combustion in a cigarette.


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Re: Smoking 'fry' isn't a normal teenage rite of passage [Re: AuroricDistortions]
    #2258660 - 01/21/04 03:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm pretty sure she just has her facts mixed up - it's a slang, not the actual liquid they perserve dead bodies with. But I'm pretty sure some idiots think it's the actual embalming fluid and go and cause huge amounts of damage to themselves.


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Re: Smoking 'fry' isn't a normal teenage rite of passage [Re: AuroricDistortions]
    #2258695 - 01/21/04 03:15 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

> I thought it would evaporate long before combustion in a cigarette.

This would make it smokable......


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Re: Smoking 'fry' isn't a normal teenage rite of passage [Re: Anno]
    #2258771 - 01/21/04 03:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You COULD smoke it, but there are no known pyschoactive properties in proper embalming fluid. Just cancer causing goodness :wink:


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Re: Smoking 'fry' isn't a normal teenage rite of passage [Re: Sheepish]
    #2258797 - 01/21/04 03:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Of course....


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Re: Smoking 'fry' isn't a normal teenage rite of passage [Re: AuroricDistortions]
    #2266795 - 01/23/04 09:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Alot of people have smoked embalming fluid thinking it was PCP because drug users themselves confuse the stuff w/ the slang.


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Re: Smoking 'fry' isn't a normal teenage rite of passage [Re: DailyPot]
    #2268809 - 01/24/04 06:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

PCP is pretty insane shit.


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Re: Smoking 'fry' isn't a normal teenage rite of passage [Re: Anno]
    #2269750 - 01/25/04 12:35 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

where i am from embalming fluid is just slang for pcp


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Re: Smoking 'fry' isn't a normal teenage rite of passage [Re: Anno]
    #2362864 - 02/21/04 09:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

wow i remember there was a time when i that shit was all around...we called it "sherm"....even smoked quite a few "west side city sherm stix" which is sherm+crack+pot in a joint...crazy shit...Probally the worst drug i have done...


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Re: Smoking 'fry' isn't a normal teenage rite of passage [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #2364157 - 02/21/04 04:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

GGreatOne234  said:

** One night i smoked that stuff and came home and ate cheese burgers with my mom and brother.
Boy was i f*cked up!~  **

That does sound f*cked up :grin:
Seriously: Embalming fluid is indeed slang used for PCP analogues, dissociative drugs based on an arylcyclohexylamine skeleton. There's a good ebook on their structure, synthesis and effects at:

http://www.rhodium.ws/chemistry/pcp/pcp_index.html

showing the Rhodium crowd again has the goodies, as you could see it as the ZiHKAL (Zombifiers I Have Known And Loved) of their class.

People often don't realize that Ketamine in all ways is part of the PCP family, but just happens to have a more favorable pharmacological profile. This has more to do with it being more water-soluable (by the 2-keto and the 1-methylamino group) and it being more readily excreted then it being a different kind of drug per se. These ACA's are very addictive if they are taken too often and present dire toxicity on overdose. In addition to that it is often made through a cyanide process, which may be carried over in the end product. The danger of cyanides here in the responsible user is not lethal poisoning per se, but long term damage due to being chronically exposed to cyanide ion.

People who insist on using this stuff need to realize:
These ACA's are among the very hard drugs. They are quite addictive and dangerous in a not too large overdose (100mg of PCP, being 2 drops of the liquid or three match-head's sizes of pure HCl powder) can easily kill. Of PCP 1-5mg should be considered a low dose, 5-10 moderate and 10-15mg a high dose. Moderate to high doses can be so overwhelming as to make you lose control of your actions like few other drugs do or zombify "fry" you, laying you flat & out on the floor. Most users do not realize a gram of pure PCP (which by no means is a rarity since it is unfortunately readily synthesized) contains 200 substantial doses which makes overdosing quite possible.

ACA's should be handled with extreme caution and are best avoided.
Dose, purity and frequency of use are of utmost importance. (as with any Very Hard Drug)
Special dangers are the unusual impairment of judgement which is notorious for getting the user (or those near him) into danger and a very strong tendency for psychosis and schizophrenia breaking out in those susceptible to these severe mental sufferings.
In addition to that certain forms of brain damage can develop from the ACA's themselves and possibly from cyanide process intermediates, which might release their cyanide selectively and be more harmful then the amount of cyanide usually would be.

If you really feel the need to use hallucinogens use our beloved mushrooms or LSD and if you want sensory impairment chugging beers tends to be less harmful then taking on the PCP analogues.

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Re: Smoking 'fry' isn't a normal teenage rite of passage [Re: Asante]
    #2368226 - 02/22/04 04:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Moderate to high doses can be so overwhelming as to make you lose control of your actions like few other drugs do or zombify "fry" you, laying you flat & out on the floor.



-Yeah, that's exactly what it does..

Another time my buddy and i smoked a stick on the side of his parents house (this was in highschool remind you) and then we walked to a friends house (which was a feat in itself because walking was "zombified", literally painful, like if you would swallow a glass of gasoline or a glass of mercury lol). When we got there everybody was watching "dr jeckle and misses hyde", that was the sickest moment of my entire life having to endure sitting through that movie..omg

Another time we had this huge halloween party, and tons of pcp was there, omg, and i watched this guy dressed up as a clown with giant clown-boots beat up the guy who brought all the wickey lol, good times, it was hyserical, but i would not-at-all recommend it children. :smile:

Growing up, i remember people "really feared" pcp, because the sh*t just don't mess around... it's so unhealthy feeling it's just rediculous.

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I also went on a drunken-hayride on pcp once, my buddy (lol) somehow fell off the ride and got ran over by the tractor or something, it was completely insane, histerical, He was completely unharmed, hehe too funny.. that is the most seriously unhealthy substance to trip from, i would recommend staying healthy and not ever using it.

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Re: Smoking 'fry' isn't a normal teenage rite of passage [Re: Asante]
    #2368299 - 02/22/04 04:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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(as with any Very Hard Drug)
Special dangers are the unusual impairment of judgement which is notorious for getting the user (or those near him) into danger and a very strong tendency for psychosis and schizophrenia breaking out in those susceptible to these severe mental sufferings.





-Roger that one too.  :grin: i can't help but laugh about it, it's just so damn unhealthy, i was able to get away with it when i was little, but i would honestly not be able to handle it anymore..


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Re: Smoking 'fry' isn't a normal teenage rite of passage [Re: Anno]
    #2395253 - 03/02/04 03:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

"Embalming fluid" is slang for PCP. No one smokes ACTUAL EMBALMING FLUID unless they're retarded.

The slang is derived from the fact that PCP makes you FEEL like the walking dead. But don't smoke formaldehyde, that shit is an outright poison!!(And most assuredly won't get you high anyway.)


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Re: Smoking 'fry' isn't a normal teenage rite of passage [Re: Anno]
    #2398208 - 03/03/04 02:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

cleveland area weekly paper "free times" had a cover story on "wet" a couple weks ago...
went right into the formaldehyde story...
took until paragraph 10 or so to even mention phencyclidine (pcp) ...
so...
let all go get embalmed, sounds soooo cool...
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(& let's just leave formaldehyde & formalin for preserving frogs & fetal pigs for bio class, mmmmkay?)


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