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Re: WAR in Heaven - WAR in every dimension - War on the Earth [Re: Eclipse3130]
#22544430 - 11/18/15 10:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Eclipse3130 said: I think people only read the bible because they had it pushed on them when they were young, or found it later in life because they never had a psychedelic experience or ever that feeling of which can easily be reached with meditation easily. I think if you were born into the world, with no beliefs would you chose to read and believe in a book or would you chose to learn to believe in what you see and feel in the world you are interacting with?
(this isn't everyone but I know it's a few) Basically many children are put into a bad situations where they are told they must believe even if they don't so they go along with it because they might face violence or punishment if they don't. It becomes deeply ingrained to who you are as a person and you don't have your own identity. Your religion becomes your identity so when someone says something you don't like about your religion it's like you're being attacked instead of your religion. It's commonly called a double bind.
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a situation in which a person is confronted with two irreconcilable demands or a choice between two undesirable courses of action.
I think the original meanings in many texts have been lost to time. The bible isn't completely devoid of wisdom but there's a lot of bullshit in there too. Example demon comes from the word daimon/daemon which simply meant any kind of spirit including good ones. ἀγαθοδαίμων
Here's another one. It's pretty crazy to the uninitiated but if you take the time to think it over I think it makes far more sense this way.
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* “Esoteric philosophy admits neither good nor evil per se, as existing independently in nature. The cause for both is found, as regards the Kosmos, in the necessity of contraries or contrasts, and with respect to man, in his human nature, his ignorance and passions. There is no devil or the utterly depraved, as there are no Angels absolutely perfect, though there may be spirits of Light and of Darkness; thus LUCIFER – the spirit of Intellectual Enlightenment and Freedom of Thought – is metaphorically the guiding beacon, which helps man to find his way through the rocks and sandbanks of Life, for Lucifer is the LOGOS in his highest, and the “Adversary” in his lowest aspect – both of which are reflected in our Ego.” (Vol. 2, p. 162)
* “In antiquity and reality, Lucifer, or Luciferus, is the name of the angelic Entity presiding over the light of truth as over the light of the day. In the great Valentinian gospel Pistis Sophia it is taught that of the three Powers emanating from the Holy names of the Three Tριδυνάμεις, that of Sophia (the Holy Ghost according to these gnostics – the most cultured of all) resides in the planet Venus or Lucifer.” (Vol. 2, p. 512)
* “The Fall was the result of man’s knowledge, for his “eyes were opened.” Indeed, he was taught Wisdom and the hidden knowledge by the “Fallen Angel,” for the latter had become from that day his Manas, Mind and Self-consciousness. In each of us that golden thread of continuous life – periodically broken into active and passive cycles of sensuous existence on Earth, and super-sensuous in Devachan – is from the beginning of our appearance upon this earth. It is the Sutratma, the luminous thread of immortal impersonal monadship, on which our earthly lives or evanescent Egos are strung as so many beads – according to the beautiful expression of Vedantic philosophy.
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Once there were young believers who founded together A common creed reconciling man with nature Combining knowledge and belief, from matter to spirit The inner alchemy can change the whole world
The appalling devotion of our culture Comes from the boundless timelessness of those who write, and teach Our mission is to maintain creation on the peaks, Out of reach of idle hands
Mages! We are sailors!
They applaud all the darings of the mundane, usurping the genius That's why our doctrine should operate a redemption
The world has undergone too many revolutions
Art is expected to become the cult of times to come When religion becomes counterfeit, art shall save the vital core Restoring the holy boundary that separated idleness from masterwork Let us redeem creation and recover its priestly conception
I found the illuminations I am now entrusted with a mission Through the cult of the ideal We will conquer
Mages! We are sailors!
The Mage is a sailor heading to a point That is invisible to the commonwealth After having crossed the oceans, he will find the illumination And know the science of the will And discover the inner alchemy
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Re: WAR in Heaven - WAR in every dimension - War on the Earth [Re: Asante]
#22544453 - 11/18/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Asante said: Let the peace of your heart push the dark clouds in your mind aside.
Embrace the Light and let It embrace you.
This^ ,positivity. this world is what we make it. The place is as good as we say it is
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Re: WAR in Heaven - WAR in every dimension - War on the Earth [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#22544728 - 11/18/15 11:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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there are children in middle east getting bombed in their homes today. they made this world? bullshit. i tell you, mcdonalds would not give me a job when i was a teenager. no job for me no matter how many interviews i went to. then they instructed the employment service to please stop setting up job interviews for me. so i was trying to get an education, dealing with manic depression and borderline personality disorders. the was no fucking way i was ever going to get an education. fuck off, the world is not what i make it.
now i work and receive benefits just to pay to keep my brothers car on the road so i can go to work to afford rent and food. the only thing i've learned is to avoid people because i'll only fuck up socially. not to love people because they'll go away and leave me blue. access to entertainment and the struggle to maintain a working hi fi stereo to assist a drinking drugging habit is as good as it can get. i'm 100% reliant on the system just too function and survive. the struggle to gain independence is always pushing a rock up the hill of failure. it never works out, everything keeps breaking down.
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Re: WAR in Heaven - WAR in every dimension - War on the Earth [Re: usulpsychonaut] 1
#22544875 - 11/19/15 12:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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usulpsychonaut said: there are children in middle east getting bombed in their homes today. they made this world? bullshit. i tell you, mcdonalds would not give me a job when i was a teenager. no job for me no matter how many interviews i went to. then they instructed the employment service to please stop setting up job interviews for me. so i was trying to get an education, dealing with manic depression and borderline personality disorders. the was no fucking way i was ever going to get an education. fuck off, the world is not what i make it.
now i work and receive benefits just to pay to keep my brothers car on the road so i can go to work to afford rent and food. the only thing i've learned is to avoid people because i'll only fuck up socially. not to love people because they'll go away and leave me blue. access to entertainment and the struggle to maintain a working hi fi stereo to assist a drinking drugging habit is as good as it can get. i'm 100% reliant on the system just too function and survive. the struggle to gain independence is always pushing a rock up the hill of failure. it never works out, everything keeps breaking down.
I used to look at things like that too. I was in the same position I'm in now except back then I was extremely depressed and everyday was agony. It was only when after I realized I had far more control over my mind and feelings did I start enjoying life no matter what. YOU ARE YOUR OWN WORST ENEMY WHEN IT COMES TO THIS



"We have come from nothingness and will return to nothingness." - My past is a tragedy; my future is hopeless

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Beck suggested that depressed people draw illogical conclusions about situations, and these lead to a distortion of reality, which manifest in the magnification of negative experiences and the trivialization of neutral or positive ones.
The cognitive triad is the source of the extremely low self-esteem of depressed subjects. Indeed it can lead to micromanic(the opposite of grandiose) delusions, manifesting in the extreme form as psychosis.
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Re: WAR in Heaven - WAR in every dimension - War on the Earth [Re: Eggtimer]
#22544938 - 11/19/15 12:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah I should get my broken lawn mower out and imagine that it works, push it around and tell the landlord that the lawn is bloody well mowed in my imagination so she can stick that in her pipe and smoke it. no, i do live in reality, first i buy a second hand mower and it blows up, so i buy a new mower and that is just typical, always have to spend everything on essentials. why do i even live in a house and have shit? home is my safe space, there is no national labour service here, they prefer immigrant labor. locals are just there to blame and scapegoat. guess i live in time. going against time would require more energy than i have. being straight is fucking madness, getting stoned is preferable but changes nothing at all. psychedelics are just getting stoned. there is nothing there. teaching healing my ass. More like 2 weeks of return from zombie land and oh no none of those weird thoughts are worth shit. but then zombie land is preferable.
what fucking sense is there in finding peace? what for? if i was at peace i would get evicted for not mowing the lawns.
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Re: WAR in Heaven - WAR in every dimension - War on the Earth [Re: usulpsychonaut]
#22544970 - 11/19/15 12:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Um....ok. You literally are creating your own negative reality. Everything in this entire world is perieved by you, and believe me, negativity is poison. And now some spiritual SCIENCE
Darkness has no effect on other darkness. It has no effect on light... and yet, a SINGLE CANDLE LIGHTS UP THE ROOM. Choose to be the candle and change your world.
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Re: WAR in Heaven - WAR in every dimension - War on the Earth [Re: Oeric McKenna]
#22545064 - 11/19/15 01:38 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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i must like negative energy and poison. i'm going to hell anyway so why not?
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Re: WAR in Heaven - WAR in every dimension - War on the Earth [Re: usulpsychonaut]
#22550912 - 11/20/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Bible is full of the truth that light overcomes the darkness.
Psalm 18:48
He delivers me from my enemies; Surely You lift me above those who rise up against me; You rescue me from the violent man.
Psalm 138:7
Though I walk in the midst of trouble, You will revive me; You will stretch forth Your hand against the wrath of my enemies, And Your right hand will save me.
Psalm 44:7
But You have saved us from our adversaries, And You have put to shame those who hate us.
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