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help! casing layer not colonizing.
    #2254628 - 01/20/04 12:46 AM (13 years, 5 days ago)

i cased some colonized straw a few days ago (can't remember if it was 4 or 6) with coco coir and oyster shell. as of today, there was still little to no growth up into the casing layer. what gives? i'm pretty sure the moisture content was right on. it's either a problem with the mycelial tissue or with the casing material, but i have no idea which. what gives?  :wtf:


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Re: help! casing layer not colonizing. [Re: ]
    #2254673 - 01/20/04 01:09 AM (13 years, 5 days ago)

how thick is the casing layer?

if it's too thick, just scrap off a bit. it should be around 1/4 inch thick.

u should know this, you have 50 bizillion posts... come on now.


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Re: help! casing layer not colonizing. [Re: ]
    #2254785 - 01/20/04 01:56 AM (13 years, 5 days ago)

I believe Paul Stamets says that the casing layer should be 1/4 the depth of the substrate. Please correct me if I'm wrong. When you squeeze the casing material you should feel/hear moisture coming out but not realliy dripping heavily. Also when you apply it, it should be kind of light and airy with lots of little rough spots(more surface area for pins to form). I like to crumble it between my fingers and sprinkle it on. If it's too wet from excessive misting or the way you mixed it, it can kind of seal the substrate in, so to speak. I'm no expert in casing, but that's what I read in the good book (TMC).


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Re: help! casing layer not colonizing. [Re: ]
    #2255151 - 01/20/04 07:01 AM (13 years, 5 days ago)

4 or even 6 days is not so long though, I'm sure you'll be fine.


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Re: help! casing layer not colonizing. [Re: ]
    #2255380 - 01/20/04 10:23 AM (13 years, 5 days ago)

i have actually dug down through the casing layer in a couple spots all the way to the straw, and there is 0 colonization.


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Re: help! casing layer not colonizing. [Re: ]
    #2255610 - 01/20/04 11:37 AM (13 years, 5 days ago)

Man ,now I've got the same problem with one of my casings and it's not colonizin the layer and I saw if myce want to colonize, it colonizes the layer very fast so I think I'm gonna change the casin layer probably it helps; any opinion about that?


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Re: help! casing layer not colonizing. [Re: ]
    #2255936 - 01/20/04 01:45 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

Maybe ph?


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Re: help! casing layer not colonizing. [Re: Semilanceata]
    #2256125 - 01/20/04 02:59 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

I don't think it's related with PH in my case because one colonized very fast and the other ones stayed static.It can be related with water ratio because I misted it and probably too much...Peace.


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Re: help! casing layer not colonizing. [Re: ]
    #2256437 - 01/20/04 04:46 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

you say straw... did you spawn to straw then case? or did you spawn on straw and case all in one?


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Re: help! casing layer not colonizing. [Re: Semilanceata]
    #2256671 - 01/20/04 05:49 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

i'm thinking it could possibly be the pH. i just eyeball the amount of oystershell i put in, but i've never had a problem before. the stuff seems pretty benign.


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Re: help! casing layer not colonizing. [Re: alienated]
    #2256820 - 01/20/04 06:56 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

the straw was fully colonized when the casing layer was applied.


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Re: help! casing layer not colonizing. [Re: ]
    #2256845 - 01/20/04 07:02 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

Well, I figure you are incubating it at a warm temp (80+) (if not then well you know what to do) , and you say the moisture is right on. Maybe you just need to scratch down to the mycelium with a fork to aerate(sp) the casing layer and stimulate the mycelium to grow into it.


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Re: help! casing layer not colonizing. [Re: ]
    #2256940 - 01/20/04 07:27 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

That wasn't my question ,sorry I interrupted the thread but thanks for answers they're helpful to me ,too.


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