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Offlinegustavo
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cakes and casings in same fruiting chamber?
    #2253979 - 01/19/04 09:42 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I'm in the middle of my first grow and about to birth my pf cakes. I want to make some casings but I also want to keep some whole cakes in case I totally screw up the casings. So I was wondering if I would be able to put both cakes and casings in the same terrarium (ultrasonic humidifier setup)--has anyone ever done this? I know that casings require less humidity than cakes, but do they require so much less that this would not be a possibility?

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Re: cakes and casings in same fruiting chamber? [Re: gustavo]
    #2254046 - 01/19/04 09:59 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

you can do it


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Re: cakes and casings in same fruiting chamber? [Re: gustavo]
    #2254378 - 01/19/04 11:31 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

what would be the ideal CONSTANT temp-humiduty for this chamber


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Re: cakes and casings in same fruiting chamber? [Re: Cubensis_Cube]
    #2254408 - 01/19/04 11:41 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

75 degrees at 95%RH...cakes need more humidity than casings..95 is sorta the middle ground


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Re: cakes and casings in same fruiting chamber? [Re: llamaboy]
    #2254413 - 01/19/04 11:43 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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llamaboy said:
75 degrees at 95%RH...cakes need more humidity than casings..95 is sorta the middle ground




This ^^^^ should work fine. Be sure to give lots of fresh air exchanges!


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Re: cakes and casings in same fruiting chamber? [Re: gustavo]
    #2254524 - 01/20/04 12:06 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)


Actually, I don't see why 99% RH could be bad for casings. It sure is not that necessary but can't hurt. At least, that how the fish is doing it since so many time..

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Re: cakes and casings in same fruiting chamber? [Re: fIsh in my head]
    #2254558 - 01/20/04 12:14 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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fIsh in my head said:

Actually, I don't see why 99% RH could be bad for casings. It sure is not that necessary but can't hurt.  At least, that how the fish is doing it since so many time..

.fs.





I don't see how this could hurt shroom production, but I think contams would thrive at 99% rh. Prehaps the fact that casings can be fruited at lower rh helps them contam less and gives an added advantage over cakes.



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Re: cakes and casings in same fruiting chamber? [Re: fIsh in my head]
    #2254563 - 01/20/04 12:15 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

heh it does sorta hurt actually...osmosis osmosis osmosis...the greater the RH the more water they're going to absorb. with casings they already have pleanty of humidty on their own. casings have notyhing to hold in the humidity and thus need somewhere around 99%. with casing too little RH is prolly better than too much. IMHO...i think there was a thread in advanced talking about the RH of mushroom environments.


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Re: cakes and casings in same fruiting chamber? [Re: llamaboy]
    #2254576 - 01/20/04 12:19 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)


You guys seem right. That might explain why I've never been able to get more than two flushes out of my casings before they turn green!

On the other hand, if I don't mist the layer once in a while, they will dry out so I guess they don't absorb that much. How do you control RH in a PMP anyway?

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Re: cakes and casings in same fruiting chamber? [Re: llamaboy]
    #2254596 - 01/20/04 12:35 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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heh it does sorta hurt actually...osmosis osmosis osmosis...the greater the RH the more water they're going to absorb. 




hmmm i don't understand. once something as moist as a fresh casing i think it's already AT 99-100% humidity and would therefore not absorb water vapor from the atmosphere. correct me if I'm wrong.

Would it not be ideal for at least the INSIDE of a casing to be at 99 or above?

I think a properly maintained casing layer does just that. keep the myc at around 99% rh by holding moisture, so yes too litte, as you say, is better than too much.




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Re: cakes and casings in same fruiting chamber? [Re: simplemachine]
    #2254829 - 01/20/04 02:20 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds good to me!!!


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