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InvisibleRudiger420
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white fuzzy stuff growing inside colonizing jar?!?!
    #2253245 - 01/19/04 05:35 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

For some reason a few of the jars have this white fuzzy stuff growing on the cakes inside the 90% colonized jars. Why is this. I did add extra water when injecting the spores. Maybe too much humidity. What should I do. Also where the cake and the jar is seporating, a light brown color is appearing just where the jar and cakes touch. What is that? mineral in the water? I doesn't look like any contaminate. Thanks Rudiger420


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Re: white fuzzy stuff growing inside colonizing jar?!?! [Re: Rudiger420]
    #2253267 - 01/19/04 05:42 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I guess you'd better send some pic so we can help you...
what about the smell of your cakes? What about the substrate?
What about the temp / humidity of the incubator?

Yes, pictures would definitely help ;-)


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Re: white fuzzy stuff growing inside colonizing jar?!?! [Re: Rudiger420]
    #2253286 - 01/19/04 05:47 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

brf, they'z still in the jars, no fruiting chamber yet. It's just fuzzy white stuff. I don't know


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Re: white fuzzy stuff growing inside colonizing jar?!?! [Re: Rudiger420]
    #2253375 - 01/19/04 06:10 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

if its your first cake, i would take a wild guess and say its probably just the mycellium growing differntly then your used to seeing. but then again im talking out of my ass unless i see a pic =(


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Re: white fuzzy stuff growing inside colonizing jar?!?! [Re: amyloid]
    #2253423 - 01/19/04 06:22 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)



If it looks kinda like this?  Your alright!

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Re: white fuzzy stuff growing inside colonizing jar?!?! [Re: kindkesey]
    #2253439 - 01/19/04 06:25 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Sooooo alright! 8-)


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Re: white fuzzy stuff growing inside colonizing jar?!?! [Re: kindkesey]
    #2253866 - 01/19/04 09:06 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

That water looks like mycilium piss and the fuzzies look like hyphal nots no worries but someone else should comferm this. Im pretty sure you are in the clear


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Re: white fuzzy stuff growing inside colonizing jar?!?! [Re: Rudiger420]
    #2272240 - 01/25/04 06:47 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah It does look like that picture. A playdo type white blobs. The brown stuff is speading like nuts. Only where the glass and cake touch but it's all over the jar. It's like spreading. Probably is just mycelium piss or something but I've never heard of a cake doing this. What could this brown stuff be? I think I'm going to put these jars in its own fruiting chamber just incase. I may have use 2 different spores in one jar too. Not sure, I didn't lable them. Thanks for the help Peace Rudiger420


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Re: white fuzzy stuff growing inside colonizing jar?!?! [Re: Rudiger420]
    #2277793 - 01/27/04 03:59 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: white fuzzy stuff growing inside colonizing jar?!?! [Re: Rudiger420]
    #2277805 - 01/27/04 04:03 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

is the brown stuff in the cake or is it watery shit that moves when you move the jar?


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Re: white fuzzy stuff growing inside colonizing jar?!?! [Re: fee]
    #2278439 - 01/27/04 07:23 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Yea i know exacly what your talking about when you see the brown stuff when the 2 are touching (jar and cake).

I have the same thing. Personally since im a brand new cultavator i have no idea if this is bad or not. I always assumed that its just the brown verm thats in there being pushed up against the glass because of the growth. Really though it doesn't seem to be a problem. We will see though once we birth and fruit them if its acually real contam.

Truly though i dont think it is. One other thing to consider that sorta supports my theory is that you dont see the specific brown spot get bigger. You only see other brown spots apear in different places...right? Well for me thats the case. Usually contamination grows larger because they are a living organism. If the brown spots are a contam they seem to not develope like other contams out there.

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This is from the Contamination FAQ, this really shows that this is probly not a problem because this is what it would probly look like if there was really brown contam in our jars. :smile:

Cinnamon Brown Mold ? Chromelosporium fulva (Peziza ostrachoderma) 

The color of this mold ranges from yellow gold to golden brown to cinnamon brown. It grows rapidly in circular patches. It is very common in soil, and flourishes on damp wood. Areas in compost overheated during spawn run may be colonized. Improperly conditioned compost will also support growth, but it is most commonly known as a recolonizer of overly pasteurized casing, possibly living on dead microorganisms. It often occurs on sterilized soil. Sexual fruiting bodies may appear several weeks after the first appearance of the mold. Spores are airborne.



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Edited by TheDrugStore (01/27/04 07:33 PM)


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Re: white fuzzy stuff growing inside colonizing jar?!?! [Re: TheDrugStore]
    #2278507 - 01/27/04 07:38 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

the cakes get smaller when myciliun grows so why would it push verm against the wall that to me makes no sense


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Re: white fuzzy stuff growing inside colonizing jar?!?! [Re: fee]
    #2278761 - 01/27/04 09:00 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

fee said:
the cakes get smaller when myciliun grows so why would it push verm against the wall that to me makes no sense




I dont know man. Im a newbie grower. From looking at the jars it just looks like this is going on.

What do you think is going on?


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Edited by TheDrugStore (01/27/04 09:01 PM)


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Re: white fuzzy stuff growing inside colonizing jar?!?! [Re: TheDrugStore]
    #2279165 - 01/27/04 11:37 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

bacterial contamination. does it smell bad? post a oic I would be able to tell you a better answer


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Re: white fuzzy stuff growing inside colonizing jar?!?! [Re: fee]
    #2280810 - 01/28/04 02:51 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Nope doesn't smell bad at all. I can't get a picture until i find someone who has a digital camera. If you look at the substrate though the brown spots only seem to occur on the out edges of the myciliun growth. Where its pretty thin but still there. In the middle parts where the myciliun growth is thick and white it looks perfectly normal. I really think if you took a look at the jars you would think it was the substrate.

Also i was just taking a look at my jars just now and in one of them i saw a very very light golden brown spot. The jar doesn't smell at all. Im going to see if this thing grows any larger then it is. This though seems like some contam but im still not sure. It doesnt fit the discription of "Cinnamon Brown Mold ? Chromelosporium fulva (Peziza ostrachoderma)"


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Edited by TheDrugStore (01/28/04 02:55 PM)


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Re: white fuzzy stuff growing inside colonizing jar?!?! [Re: TheDrugStore]
    #2280901 - 01/28/04 03:20 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

One thing Ive seen is when the cake is nearing full colonization, it can pull far enough away from the sides of the jar that the bits of the dry verm layer on top drop down. Ive had several cakes with a good amount of dry verm just hanging out all around the sides of the jar. I can see how one small piece might drop overnight, and be quite alarming the next day when you find what looks to be a brown spot.


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Re: white fuzzy stuff growing inside colonizing jar?!?! [Re: Bersilak]
    #2280912 - 01/28/04 03:24 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Bersilak said:
One thing Ive seen is when the cake is nearing full colonization, it can pull far enough away from the sides of the jar that the bits of the dry verm layer on top drop down. Ive had several cakes with a good amount of dry verm just hanging out all around the sides of the jar. I can see how one small piece might drop overnight, and be quite alarming the next day when you find what looks to be a brown spot.




I dont think thats the case. I can see though how that could be the problem as well. The verm i have is way to big to drop down the sides... and you can still see the substrate thats un-colonized against the glass so really the cake hasn't shruken in size much.


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Re: white fuzzy stuff growing inside colonizing jar?!?! [Re: TheDrugStore]
    #2281157 - 01/28/04 04:32 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

is it a watery substance or is it solid? and the light golden spot is that watery also if so its mycilium piss


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