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Hobotechnology said:
Yo got some jars about to hit the 9-10 month mark.
Should i harvest befor they go bad or can i let them go longer?

Also got a tub from a 7 month old jar i tried fruiting, but the already BIG stones just got bigger! Will post pics in a couple of days.

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sandman420 said:
aye any of you fabulous freaks having success with stones have the capability to test your water pH? I wonder what all you guys have.

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ReverendMyc said:
Now I just make tea reductions for use in gummy candies with all of my stones. They give the gummies a bit of a mushroom flavor that the jello flavor doesn't quite mask, but never any nausea ime.

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What's your method for making those?  I've been puzzling over how to do that with stones.  Do you boil them whole, or crush them up first?  Are they fresh or dry when you do it?  Do you put the material in some kind of filter bag like a tea bag?

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Yes to all of that. lol. Actually I do a double reduction of fresh diced stones.

I have been chopping up the stones when they are fresh.

Bring to a hard boil in 2 cups of water and reduce to simmer for at least 40 minutes stirring occasionally and adding water if needed.
Strain using a brewers bag or cheese cloth setting liquid aside.
Return the remaining stone mash to the pan, add more water and boil and simmer again for 30 plus minutes.
Strain again.
Pitch the stone mash.
Combine both liquids in the pan and reduce to the required amount for the gummy recipe or to freeze for future use.

One word of warning. I have not been able to get a good calculation on strength. The first time I did this, I calculated an equivalent 0.5g dry cubes per gummy treat. They kicked my dumb ass to the curb eating what I had calculated as 6 half gram dose of gummys. The next time with similar amounts they were much weaker, but most of those stones had been frozen from fresh which may have been the culprit.
Still refining my process and testing.

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Adas said:
My CPX jar is forming tiny stones right after full colonization! I'm gonna send it to some good compost!

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Adas, this is really awesome and unprecedented for me.  I haven't been able to get cpx to stone, especially not directly after full colonization. I've even left plates around for months and not seen it stone before. I knew you would be able to do some great work with this. 

I had a bit of an out of the box question as far as the species we normally talk about on this thread.  I know there is a dedicated thread for Panaeolus but I'm admittedly not very familiar with the thread and wanted to ask here if that is alright.

Is anyone familiar with species in the Panaeolus genus other than cinctulus producing sclerotia or pseudo-sclerotia?  Pan Cinctulus has been known to kick out "blue pearls" which are small, sand-like pseudo-sclerotia that can be bright azure blue, but is there evidence of other panaeolus species doing something similar?

I have a plate of Pan Cyan BVI which over time has started producing nodes that have turned a darker color within (covered with mycelium).  My first guess here is contam but this growth appears to have started after full colonization, it doesn't seem to be the case that this is some contam that the BVI has taken over.

Are these just malformed pins?  They appear to have a much darker color within.

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Hey fellas, I hope it's cool to briefly follow-up on this since I brought it up earlier.

I opened this plate and used a scalpel and microscope to analyze what these formations were.  It turns out these are not mold.  When I cut them open, they were very tough, like the consistency of a gummy bear.

Cutting cross-sections of these formations showed these interesting "bits" that look translucent, like clear rubber or something with the same consistency.  I put them under a microscope and am showing the microscopy below. 

I was hoping these were some kind of pseudo-sclerotia but I realize I'm stretching it for what Panaeolus is known for?  However these formations appear to show some azure blue coloring on 40x magnification, check out the last pics.

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Adas said:
My CPX jar is forming tiny stones right after full colonization! I'm gonna send it to some good compost!

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Adas, this is really awesome and unprecedented for me.  I haven't been able to get cpx to stone, especially not directly after full colonization. I've even left plates around for months and not seen it stone before. I knew you would be able to do some great work with this. 

I had a bit of an out of the box question as far as the species we normally talk about on this thread.  I know there is a dedicated thread for Panaeolus but I'm admittedly not very familiar with the thread and wanted to ask here if that is alright.

Is anyone familiar with species in the Panaeolus genus other than cinctulus producing sclerotia or pseudo-sclerotia?  Pan Cinctulus has been known to kick out "blue pearls" which are small, sand-like pseudo-sclerotia that can be bright azure blue, but is there evidence of other panaeolus species doing something similar?

I have a plate of Pan Cyan BVI which over time has started producing nodes that have turned a darker color within (covered with mycelium).  My first guess here is contam but this growth appears to have started after full colonization, it doesn't seem to be the case that this is some contam that the BVI has taken over.

Are these just malformed pins?  They appear to have a much darker color within.

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sandman420 said:
You go gurls all my stone bags aint doing shit. I wonder if my water pH has anything to do with it. It's quite high at 9.4. Probably not but damn.

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Sagescruffy said:
Woah y’all are working on some cool stuff!

Here’s an update on my little cased grains



And now my bulk substrates that have a normal casing layer are starting to pin. These pins are definitely noticeably larger than the cased grain ones were at this stage in growth

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Hongosamongus said:
I'm a bit dense about these things but as I'm now just getting some fruits out of my tampenensis bins, I'm realizing that these are all coming from sclerotia that have bee allowed to "mature" outside of the restricted environment of the grain jars. Is it safe to say that with this species, big bins are a waste of time and perhaps the best way to grow these would be to simply either collect the stones and case them, rather than include all that dried up mycelia/grain that's left in the jars after the stones have gotten an inch or two in size? I'm still a bit confused as I've seen photos of bins with what appear to be a flush of this species, but also wondering if perhaps these are actually P. mexicana...I definitely have tamps, however.

What are the growing conditions needed to get P. mexicana to fruit, vs. tampanensis? I think that the commercial spore sellers are partially to blame for all of this confusion, as at least the ones I've dealt with have been fast and loose with the taxonomy - never mind the deprecated "galindoi" name...

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