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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: A.k.a] * 1
    #26877263 - 08/12/20 06:49 PM (2 months, 14 days ago)

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So this weird circle...stone forming or contam?






The white/orange middle looks like a stone but the black circle around it looks off to me.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: MacMerdin] * 1
    #26877817 - 08/13/20 03:13 AM (2 months, 14 days ago)

My plant pot is doing great:mushroom2:



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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: MacMerdin] * 1
    #26878316 - 08/13/20 12:08 PM (2 months, 14 days ago)

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So this weird circle...stone forming or contam?






The white/orange middle looks like a stone but the black circle around it looks off to me.




Yep! I noticed it smelled like fermented apples yesterday and I just opened it to a bunch of mold.


On the other hand my tamp clones are banging. I didn’t case one on time and it got a ton of side pins but since I cased it a few days ago I got lots of clusters popping.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #26879697 - 08/14/20 08:42 AM (2 months, 13 days ago)

My cluster clone that started pinning two days ago. I think I’ll clone that middle cluster again until I get better pinsets.


Although I didn’t stay on top of casing it and all the sides look like this so it might’ve been a pretty good pinset if they were all on the surface. 



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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: A.k.a] * 1
    #26879774 - 08/14/20 10:02 AM (2 months, 13 days ago)

Some nice little clusters there!  Provide ample FAE without drying out the fruit and you’ll get prints.  Got any sand in that casing?  I know I’m beating a dead horse but it can really help with a denser pin set.  Tamps grow in FL...the entire state is a sandbar.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Mycolorado]
    #26879787 - 08/14/20 10:11 AM (2 months, 13 days ago)

I don’t, I need to finally get some. I’ve been going heavy on the fine verm when I mix up casing hoping that’ll help a little bit.

I’m about to put that tub in the pans fc and give that a whirl.


My tamps so far have been pretty curly and the caps crimp up a lot. Idk if it’s genetic or from soaking them too much.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: A.k.a]
    #26879800 - 08/14/20 10:21 AM (2 months, 13 days ago)

Right on...I actually use the fine grain verm...not sure if there’s a difference there.  FAE is key to cap/spore development and should straighten them out though I’ve had some curly sets even with high FAE.  That’s the fc with the air line, correct?  Should work great.  I’ve always drenched mine so don’t think that’s an issue, especially if they’re in a low rh environment.  You may not have to spray them as much in that fc.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Mycolorado]
    #26879803 - 08/14/20 10:26 AM (2 months, 13 days ago)

Awesome it was probably just genetic then.

I’ve got an average of 10% rh in my room so I get crazy evaporation on everything which sucked at first but once I learned how to deal with it actually helps a lot for stuff like these and pans that need a lot of air.

My last tamp grows I had dub tubbed and was literally soaking them 2-3x a day.


I was thinking about swabbing some this time if i can’t get prints. I didn’t try before but there were a few caps that looked printable.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: A.k.a] * 2
    #26879823 - 08/14/20 10:41 AM (2 months, 13 days ago)

Yeah, at 10% rh, I’d think you’d really have to work at keeping them wet if they’re receiving sufficient FAE.  I spray mine 3x a day in a tent with constant air movement and rh closer to 70%  Even at that high rh, lots of air movement will wick the moisture right out of the casing and dry such delicate fruit.  These are just observations I’ve made and by no means set in stone but my belief is, some sand in the casing and high FAE without drying the fruit will set you up for good sets of well formed and mature, printable tamps.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Mycolorado]
    #26880123 - 08/14/20 02:05 PM (2 months, 12 days ago)

sand helps so much


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #26880128 - 08/14/20 02:10 PM (2 months, 12 days ago)

Left this tub at me mates since April, come back to some monsters, just took those two off the top and they’re 60g...not to sure with the potency with these...will 20g each be ok or should we roll with the 30g ?

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Mycolorado]
    #26880131 - 08/14/20 02:15 PM (2 months, 12 days ago)

Update on my Tamps--

Galindoi:


Atl#7 jar 1:


The second Atl#7 jar is about 95% done-- but no stone activity that I see yet.
Those other 2 Gal G2G's I did early this week are growing, despite the small transfer size from the pictured jar.
The mycelium surrounding the grains is now about the size of a nickel.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Smoothcat]
    #26880142 - 08/14/20 02:21 PM (2 months, 12 days ago)

Are those stones atl7??

The standard fresh dose is 15g I think, but they’re probably pretty potent if they’ve been going since April.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26880350 - 08/14/20 04:50 PM (2 months, 12 days ago)

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So this will be interesting and I will expand to grains only, in the dark and in a jar at some point.  As you can see ive made the bags so that the sub is 2" thick as i have allays had good results with this. 1:1, 1:2, 1:3 spawn to coir.








First update

The 1:1 is forming a mega stone structure and looks very healthy





The 1:2 is similar with a proper stone forming already





The 1:3 has fully colonised and stones are forming.





It will be interesting to see which bag gives the most stones.  I should imagine 1:3 due to water content




Part 2 of the experiment but this time ratio 1:1, 2:2(I know), 2:3, and left in the dark





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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Edmunter]
    #26880417 - 08/14/20 05:37 PM (2 months, 12 days ago)

Very cool ed :smile:


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Smoothcat]
    #26880567 - 08/14/20 07:43 PM (2 months, 12 days ago)

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Kid Koala]
    #26880598 - 08/14/20 08:06 PM (2 months, 12 days ago)

Interesting experiment Ed. Just wondering is there any reason you keep it in the dark?


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #26880969 - 08/15/20 02:38 AM (2 months, 12 days ago)

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Interesting experiment Ed. Just wondering is there any reason you keep it in the dark?




ONE SET IN THE DARK, 1 SET IN THE LIGHT AT DIFFERENT RATIOS.  Its just to see how the stone formation compares


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Smoothcat]
    #26881110 - 08/15/20 07:25 AM (2 months, 12 days ago)

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Left this tub at me mates since April, come back to some monsters, just took those two off the top and they’re 60g...not to sure with the potency with these...will 20g each be ok or should we roll with the 30g ?





Commercial dose in Amsterdam is ~20g (you can get pack in 10, 15, 20, and a couple places selling 30).  But rarely are the truffles aged that long.  I'd probably cut them in half, and see how it goes after the first hour and re-dose if needed.  Unless you're looking for a Level 5 trip, in which case go for it on the whole 30g.  Please let us know either way!


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    #26881134 - 08/15/20 07:52 AM (2 months, 12 days ago)

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Left this tub at me mates since April, come back to some monsters, just took those two off the top and they’re 60g...not to sure with the potency with these...will 20g each be ok or should we roll with the 30g ?





Commercial dose in Amsterdam is ~20g (you can get pack in 10, 15, 20, and a couple places selling 30).  But rarely are the truffles aged that long.  I'd probably cut them in half, and see how it goes after the first hour and re-dose if needed.  Unless you're looking for a Level 5 trip, in which case go for it on the whole 30g.  Please let us know either way!



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So this will be interesting and I will expand to grains only, in the dark and in a jar at some point.  As you can see ive made the bags so that the sub is 2" thick as i have allays had good results with this. 1:1, 1:2, 1:3 spawn to coir.








First update

The 1:1 is forming a mega stone structure and looks very healthy





The 1:2 is similar with a proper stone forming already





The 1:3 has fully colonised and stones are forming.





It will be interesting to see which bag gives the most stones.  I should imagine 1:3 due to water content




Part 2 of the experiment but this time ratio 1:1, 2:2(I know), 2:3, and left in the dark









I'll be watching closely. I got spawn bags on the way to get my grains going and then I'll be going with the bag tek with coir. Hopefully you will have some updates by then. I'm so under the impression that these will out preform just grains due to the fact there is more food and water for the mycelium, well at least if your just going for stones anyway.

Soon I'll have some pics, all I have now is a tub full of coir and ATL#7 spawn and a few more jars of spawn and not picture worthy yet.


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