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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: MacMerdin]
    #26264100 - 10/19/19 10:02 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Direct misting okay with them or are they like pans?


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Toxic enigma]
    #26264102 - 10/19/19 10:04 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

They love misting.  No need to treat them delicately.  Although I've had a couple fall over when misting but they were about to be pulled anyway cause they were mature.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: MacMerdin] * 1
    #26265112 - 10/20/19 12:17 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah these guys LOVE a lot of moisture and that includes direct spraying until water is rolling across the casing. Lol I even put a hole in the bottom of the shoebox because I had the humidity so high it was pooling around my sub. This was after I fried some fruits from my fan cycle being on too long. Lol
Something I have noticed though(at least it appears connected after printing every single printable cap from my last two tamp grows lol) is that if they can get too wet right before they mature and start dropping spores. They will still mature perfectly fine but half of the caps will not print if that's what you're trying to do. After dialing back my humidity on my last couple flushes right at that point and giving the casing a little time to get little drier(not glistening but not dry) the spore drop has been WAY better.
Went from 50/50 will print/won't print and half of those being very light to probably 80% or more giving me nice dark prints to work with. Anyone else notice this?


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: KapnDank]
    #26265825 - 10/20/19 06:54 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

10/20 Not lookin so good for the experiment right now. Close but the control wins again.
Control- 97.98


Experimental- 91.05

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: KapnDank]
    #26265963 - 10/20/19 08:11 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Okay, with them being so much smaller than cubes I wasn't sure how delicate they would be.
I had planned on printing, trying to anyway.
Just seems like a waste not to between being able to trade the prints for other species I'd like to work with and backups if I have to go back to spore for some reason.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Toxic enigma] * 1
    #26266119 - 10/20/19 10:14 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Definitely print the shit outta them. One good thing about their size is you can make a LOT of prints in a tiny space compared to cubes. The downside of their size is that the caps are quick to dry out when printing.
Thanks to some advice from some people in this thread I learned how to print these with little drying out. I took a little of everyone's advice and this is the result. May be Overkill but it's better than finding a whole layer of ideal caps have dried out before giving any spores. That's a lot of wasted time(and good caps)  that I don't intend to repeat lol
Ok here we go lol......


1 Lay your foil bed down on a lid.
I use a large tote lid because it gives a nice large flat area to put a shoe box or glass baking pan over it as the humidity dome. The large surface allows all edges of the container make contact. No gaps from a raised spot or crumbled foil.  You want a small container. Big ones dry out.

2 mist the tops of the caps right before harvesting to give it some extra moisture in top. Don't spray the gills.(I imagine it could add contams)

3 go ahead and pick all the fruits your gonna print before you start cutting the caps and placing them. If you cut/place as you harvest it takes more time. That's also more time for the caps to start drying out. Then cut all the caps off the stems as close to the cap as possible. If you're having difficulty cutting the small caps/stems you can use the edge of a spare petri dish. Put the fruit over the lid with the cap hanging over the curved edge and line up the spot you want to cut with the edge of the plate and use the plate as a cutting board.

4 place your caps on the foil in rows. Pick up the caps by gently poking the top of the cap dead center with a scalpel tip. Just enough that the cap sticks to it. Avoid poking too deep and damaging the under side. These guys are thin. Also if a couple are already getting dry place that spare petri lid over them until you finish laying the rest of the caps.

5 make a foil tent to sit over the caps. This reduces condensation drops on the printing surface and it also give you a place to lay a couple folded wet paper towels on as a moisture reservoir.

6 mist the small container and carefully place over the caps and foil tent/paper towel thing.  I then come back and check 24hrs later. I lift all the caps a little and any that aren't printing I remove and either add a fresh cap over that spot or move one of my heavy sporulating caps over to it's spots and get a 2nd print out of that cap. 

Ok so that's the way I've been doing them and it pretty much eliminates any chance of them drying too soon. (Didn't realize how long it was gonna be. Think I may copy this text and save it as a small cap printing tek lol) this will also give you the nicest spore drop that I've been able to get and you can work under a flow hood if you're ocd about clean prints. I'll often make a foil windshield to lessen the drying while laying caps and especially for printing excessively tiny caps. (I was informed that prepping and laying the caps quickly in open air would be sufficient I just didn't want to take any chances because I plan to give away most of these here and at mycotopia. Already gonna send 50 or so and many of them going to noobs who are drying an exotic for the first time. I don't want it to discourage anyone because of something on my end)


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: KapnDank]
    #26267386 - 10/21/19 02:25 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks, would definitely be useful to have a tek around here for printing the little caps of many exotics.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Toxic enigma]
    #26267874 - 10/21/19 06:55 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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Thanks, would definitely be useful to have a tek around here for printing the little caps of many exotics.




I have used plastic (PP5) sd card holders, sterilized and just plop a couple caps in and leave in the SGFC to keep em humid.  Some of you have received a couple of these....

I've used wet paper towels.

Any way you can keep them humid and they will print.  If you can keep them from drying out, I've learned 75% will give a good print in 48 hours.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: MacMerdin]
    #26268688 - 10/22/19 12:43 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Good to know, I remember years back they were notorious for not printing or only giving light prints. But then colonizating spawn was still be done mostly in the dark with a few just starting to experiment with light for colonization.
I'm glad to be having a some success with stones, wish my pans were going as well but I'm sure I get them eventually aswell.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Toxic enigma] * 1
    #26269697 - 10/22/19 02:43 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Atl7 from someone here I can’t remember (I apologize for that too it’s much appreciated but my memory is bad sometimes Doc maybe you??).
Have had this for couple years now decided to run it again.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: dextr0] * 2
    #26274120 - 10/24/19 03:45 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Getting back to some stone producers finally, just knocked up 8 jars with a Jalisco LC and G2G'd a really old quart of ATL#7 to 7 jars.

Tested the LC the other day, looks just like the agar plate I used to make it :awesome:



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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Svetaketu] * 1
    #26274127 - 10/24/19 03:47 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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Getting back to some stone producers finally, just knocked up 8 jars with a Jalisco LC and G2G'd a really old quart of ATL#7 to 7 jars.

Tested the LC the other day, looks just like the agar plate I used to make it :awesome:






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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Camera93]
    #26274227 - 10/24/19 04:59 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I think I've dialed these wild tamps in.  Not a string bean/noodle in the bunch....



BTW...those plastic cakes that are buried (tamp on left and gal on right) are the experiment of "Galindoi" next to the known Tamps that I started in late July/early August (look back at my posts about it).  So, these have been fruiting since early August.....so almost 3 months.  Ahahahaha.

p.s.  First post regarding these were on page 249 in this thread.  August 6th, 2019.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: MacMerdin]
    #26274455 - 10/24/19 06:57 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Nice, hopefully mine turn out as nice as those.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: MacMerdin]
    #26274679 - 10/24/19 08:46 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

mac, that's so cool man. i have a kinda silly amount of houseplants. i'd love to have some ornamental mushrooms constantly popping up among them. or maybe a functional terrarium. just something lovely at which to gaze.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Toxic enigma]
    #26275159 - 10/25/19 03:50 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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Nice, hopefully mine turn out as nice as those.




Good luck.  Lots of FAE is the key.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: J. Jack Flash]
    #26275166 - 10/25/19 03:54 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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mac, that's so cool man. i have a kinda silly amount of houseplants. i'd love to have some ornamental mushrooms constantly popping up among them. or maybe a functional terrarium. just something lovely at which to gaze.




I have a pinguicula (butterwort) in a terrarium and I've thought the same.  Problem is that any nutrition in the soil would kill it (it's a predatory plant) so I thought not.  A regular succulant would work though I'm sure.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: MacMerdin]
    #26276845 - 10/25/19 08:37 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Does length of time in jar increase potency? I've seen it said, just wanna the truth.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Crackatoa]
    #26276856 - 10/25/19 08:48 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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Does length of time in jar increase potency? I've seen it said, just wanna the truth.




Kind of curious about that meself.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Toxic enigma]
    #26276861 - 10/25/19 08:50 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I haven’t tested it but if they’re still growing I would say yes.  If they stop growing they’re probably not making any more actives.


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