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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #23124276 - 04/16/16 01:00 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Munch and I disagree on this, but I think that (at least for my Tamps) the stones do eat the grains.

When I was cleaning mine off there were so many half devoured oats and many hulls that were wrapped around the stone, like they had once been encompassing an oat that was devoured.
If you open the stone up it's just pure myc so it happens really quick, the half oats that I found were literally half oats and half mycelium, there wasn't any evidence of an interim period, when it decides to digest and oat it becomes anologous with it quite rapidly.

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Looks like Penis Envy + Blobs if you ask me.



that would be truly funny if thats all it is and I'm letting the size of the golf ball cloud my judgement





And the reason I think that is because the pin is too fat to be a stone producer fruit, they are all skinny (except for the recent pictures mr fox posted, but he's clearly doing something amazing) and don't have the universal veil.

As well as the stones grow inside the substrate, and while they will pop their heads out, that one is clearly growing from the outside of the sub

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23124358 - 04/16/16 01:33 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

hell yeah thank you redz


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #23124938 - 04/16/16 05:35 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Definitely PE, take a look at my most recent harvest.



and blobs


look at the 2 small blobs on the right, around 11 o clock from that clam looking blob.


I've had bigger blobs but I never found them interesting enough to take pics. Most of my big blobs form either at the side of the tubs, like blazer's or between the liner and the sub. The fruits are identical to PE IMHO.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23124950 - 04/16/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Munch and I disagree on this, but I think that (at least for my Tamps) the stones do eat the grains.





:justno: they don't eat anything....they may form around them but they are not eating them.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: cronicr]
    #23126603 - 04/17/16 07:41 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

:whathesaid:

Never seen grains inside sclerotia... I've only felt like i ate pieces of sand when i ate some of my bulk grows (I guess only inorganic tiny matter like sand, can get stuck inside)

But the inside was clean mycelium, no horsepoo or grains.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Teemo 6T3]
    #23126830 - 04/17/16 09:40 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

its not being eaten, its just being dissolved/reformed into fungal material? what are we saying here?

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23128249 - 04/17/16 06:10 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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its not being eaten, its just being dissolved/reformed into fungal material? what are we saying here?



not being dissolved either, it's in a fruiting mods not colonizing or breaking things down.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: cronicr]
    #23138858 - 04/20/16 10:54 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Hey guys, i strongly urge everyone to try using 'sorghum' to produce sclerotia if you can find it...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorghum_bicolor

I was recommended it by a friend, and initial trials are very promising at good strong sclerotia production, but most importantly to me it is very easy to find and harvest the sclerotia from.

I found it took less that 1/5th the time to harvest sorghum based substrate compared to wheat which i used previously, though i haven't tried rye yet so can't compare with that... 

Here is a pic of one harvested grow bag -


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: _OttO_]
    #23138936 - 04/20/16 11:20 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

This is big news to me as my family grows sorghum for pig feed , now just to build a shaking device for shaking the grain off the stalk of the plant ..

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: _OttO_]
    #23139573 - 04/21/16 08:06 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

So OttO, if you don't mind, what is your opinion on this matter

do you find the sclerotia to ingest the grains at all? I noticed that your stones made from sorghum (which is basically a round ball) are much more rounded and look more like little spheres attached to each other, whereas your stones made from wheat/oats/rye (can't remember) Looked more standard and had the oblong connections.

To me, stones look like pieces of grains that have been fused together and devoured, but all the TCs disagree with me. Your post makes me feel even more strongly because the difference between the two actually looks like round connections vs oblong connections - round (sorghum) grains vs oblong (wheat) grains

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23139822 - 04/21/16 09:43 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Repost from another thread. Sample of recent g2g.  Tamp & ATL7 project

Rye innoc via barley Tamp



Oat (groats) innoc via grass seed ATL7



Rye innoc via grass seed ATL7



ATL7 on grass seed/nyjer from spore


Not a fan of the groats. They were supposed to ship hull-on.

Barley master was very concentrated MS.

Grass seed was pretty badass. 2tsp xfer per pint

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23141771 - 04/21/16 07:51 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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So OttO, if you don't mind, what is your opinion on this matter

do you find the sclerotia to ingest the grains at all? I noticed that your stones made from sorghum (which is basically a round ball) are much more rounded and look more like little spheres attached to each other, whereas your stones made from wheat/oats/rye (can't remember) Looked more standard and had the oblong connections.

To me, stones look like pieces of grains that have been fused together and devoured, but all the TCs disagree with me. Your post makes me feel even more strongly because the difference between the two actually looks like round connections vs oblong connections - round (sorghum) grains vs oblong (wheat) grains




I don't think that the stones 'ingest' the grains so to speak - in my observations they grow between the grains, occasionally getting some grains caught inside or around the stones.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: _OttO_]
    #23142353 - 04/21/16 09:34 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Haha alright that's it

Enough bonafide growers have told me, I'll believe you guys I guess.

Won't stop me from continuing my research against you guys :tinfoil:

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: the_r3dz] * 2
    #23142369 - 04/21/16 09:37 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Hahahah how about you count every single grain in the jars?? Then again after harvest?

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: AusMush]
    #23142503 - 04/21/16 10:05 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

...I don't hate this idea. I could do a ton of small scale experiments.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: the_r3dz]
    #23245505 - 05/19/16 10:19 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

So I had some 2 month old neglected petri dishes with mexicana/tampensis that pinned. Was wondering how rare this is in the groups experience.

Like does that possibly indicate a good fruiter or will pretty much anything do that after sitting too long?

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23245565 - 05/19/16 10:40 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

they usually fruit, but if u clone those pins u are on the right track of getting something good


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Aero]
    #23246403 - 05/19/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

That question made me remember something I wished to ask. In your guys' experience, does picking a more orange/yellow sector from a galindoi plate has a chance of being a better sclerotia producer? I notice that in pics, the yellow/orange starts to appear around the time stones are being produced.

I have a Galindoi plate that has a really orange sector in it, I have transferred it to a new plate to test it out.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23246535 - 05/19/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

I guess ye, it'll have the genes for making sclerotia, but other sectors could also, so just take as much sectors as u can, the yellow ones and the white ones.

The more you have the better, because even the white ones will make sclerotia.

I love sclerotia producing species so much now lol, cus even if you get a good stone producer, it will also produce lots of fruits on top of the stones :awesomenod::thumbup:


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Teemo 6T3]
    #23246576 - 05/19/16 03:59 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

That wasn't exactly what I meant. The question was, would you say an orange sector has a better chance of being a more prolific stone producer? Or does it not have anything to do with it?

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