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Re: The Official AA+ Cubensis Thread (moved) [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #22651381 - 12/13/15 08:04 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: The Official AA+ Cubensis Thread (moved) [Re: eatyualive]
    #22652241 - 12/13/15 11:17 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Amazing - are those first flush fruits?
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Re: The Official AA+ Cubensis Thread (moved) [Re: PsiloPsychIn]
    #22655080 - 12/14/15 07:01 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

oh the big ones were 2nd flush. the biggest looks about 15".

ive begun misting my casings now. i usually don't and let the entire tub do its thing until harvest. but i have two tubs on the way after those posted above.


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Re: The Official AA+ Cubensis Thread (moved) [Re: eatyualive]
    #22655929 - 12/14/15 10:02 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: The Official AA+ Cubensis Thread (moved) [Re: eatyualive]
    #22657285 - 12/15/15 03:34 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Was this cased?

I'm finding my AA+ I've been running may not actually like being cased. :shrug:


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Re: The Official AA+ Cubensis Thread (moved) [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #22659447 - 12/15/15 06:29 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Was this cased?

I'm finding my AA+ I've been running may not actually like being cased. :shrug:



yes cased at spawning. and all the holes are stuffed with medium polyfil at spawning. no tape no nada. just put it into fruiting conditions at spawning and it fruits on its own. i did not maintenance.

and i agree. ive had some extremely massive fruits with AA+ with no casing. they perform well without it. similar to burma and great yield.

here is an update. im finally able to take prints tonight. for AA+ they are a little slow and it takes roughly 18 days from spawn to harvest with the case at spawning on my last batch. this batch was spawned on 11-30-2015. so were at 16 days. not the fastest ive had, but good speed. i still haven't beat my 12 days to harvest yet with slurry to bulk.



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Re: The Official AA+ Cubensis Thread (moved) [Re: eatyualive]
    #22659666 - 12/15/15 07:17 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

When you say you cased those tubs at spawning, what material are you casing with?


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Re: The Official AA+ Cubensis Thread (moved) [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #22659888 - 12/15/15 08:15 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

scroll down past azur's post under "eat's lab adaptation".  i have a detail write up of what ive been doing lately. i use verm/coir and some gypsum as casing material. substrate has dung in it. coir/verm/gypsum/dung.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22315950/fpart/1


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Re: The Official AA+ Cubensis Thread (moved) [Re: eatyualive]
    #22660069 - 12/15/15 08:48 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I don't see the benefit.

It's just a layer of more substrate being added. I'm assuming it gets colonized right along with the rest of the substrate?

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Re: The Official AA+ Cubensis Thread (moved) [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #22660099 - 12/15/15 08:51 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Sometimes my coir casing gets eaten but usually not.  PE is bad for consuming the coir casing.


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Re: The Official AA+ Cubensis Thread (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22660800 - 12/15/15 10:28 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Sometimes my coir casing gets eaten but usually not.  PE is bad for consuming the coir casing.



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Re: The Official AA+ Cubensis Thread (moved) [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #22662275 - 12/16/15 10:06 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for this thread... Bookmarked. My AA+ are just now showing life! I can only hope they look nearly as beautiful as your tubs once spawned. :smile:


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Re: The Official AA+ Cubensis Thread (moved) [Re: Kalistis]
    #22662368 - 12/16/15 10:37 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Man these pics are amazing! Do any of you guys have pics of AA+ jars with primordia or pins in vitro? Do they darken up at all compared to the surrounding mycel when they first start to pin?


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Re: The Official AA+ Cubensis Thread (moved) [Re: EnergyTurtle]
    #22663501 - 12/16/15 04:10 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Man these pics are amazing! Do any of you guys have pics of AA+ jars with primordia or pins in vitro? Do they darken up at all compared to the surrounding mycel when they first start to pin?




The pins are a little darker, it's not like they're pure white like a true albino strain. AA+ is leucistic, which means it's not lacking all pigment just most.


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Re: The Official AA+ Cubensis Thread (moved) [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #22663591 - 12/16/15 04:35 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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I don't see the benefit.

It's just a layer of more substrate being added. I'm assuming it gets colonized right along with the rest of the substrate?

Not hatin', drop some knowledge on me if there is something  I'm missing.





What I've noticed, is by having the casing spread over your spawn mix at birth, you are also giving the colonized grains a bit more protections from contamination. Somehow, it does often grow out differently by adding a pure casing mixture  (without spawn) layer on top. At least in my limited experience.

A few occasions I've left fully colonized grains in a substrate simple mix (minimono); no casing layer. And I feel like that might've lead to a contam or two for me.


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Re: The Official AA+ Cubensis Thread (moved) [Re: dankington]
    #22664012 - 12/16/15 06:07 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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What I've noticed, is by having the casing spread over your spawn mix at birth, you are also giving the colonized grains a bit more protections from contamination.



Colonized grains don't need protection, they're colonized grains.


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Re: The Official AA+ Cubensis Thread (moved) [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #22665010 - 12/16/15 09:34 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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I don't see the benefit.

It's just a layer of more substrate being added. I'm assuming it gets colonized right along with the rest of the substrate?

Not hatin', drop some knowledge on me if there is something  I'm missing.



yes most of the time it does. most of the time my temps are always so high so even if im using peat based casing or any other type of casing material, the casing fully colonizes before fruits. doesn't matter if i induce at 10%, 20%, 30%. so i used to induce at 100%. the last 2 years ive been inducing around 30%.

i generally don't mist the casing at all. so all the grows in this thread, have no misting done at all. all rehydration for 2nd flush is done with a dunk.
the difference is that i like putting all the ingredients into the mix, let it sit and do its thing. i have some really long gaps between times that the tubs can be checked. so this is one big reason i like the set and forget type grows.  ive recently been misting the casings from the day after spawning until about 50% casing colonization. i have a few tubs that are not fully colonized and showing pins. generally the syzygy don't colonize the casing entirely. pe, ape, and peu always consume the entire thing. even if you induce at spawning.

but good question, what is the benefit if you can fruit directly off the bulk substrate? im not really sure there is a benefit. but casing at spawning does shave time off your process from spawn to harvest. anywhere from a few days to a week. my best times for harvest from spawn are 12 days. that is using slurried grain to bulk. the 2nd best time is using the top layer method like fahtster does. casing at spawning is a close 3rd. and could possibly be 2nd in timing if i use a quicker variety like a tex or thai. the AA+ is a little slow. ill time my next tex/thai grows out and take notes.

i just mix it up often between cased or non cased bulk substrates. most of my bulk grows over the years are uncased substrates. but ive always been a fan of coir/verm in substrates, on top of substrates. hell, id probably make a bed of that stuff and sleep on it.:lmafo:

and people were using coir as casings/bulk subs long before anyone made a video about it.

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Man these pics are amazing! Do any of you guys have pics of AA+ jars with primordia or pins in vitro? Do they darken up at all compared to the surrounding mycel when they first start to pin?




The pins are a little darker, it's not like they're pure white like a true albino strain. AA+ is leucistic, which means it's not lacking all pigment just most.



sometimes the pins turn a dark blue color for me. i haven't done any invitro though.


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Re: The Official AA+ Cubensis Thread (moved) [Re: Kalistis]
    #22665013 - 12/16/15 09:35 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Thanks for this thread... Bookmarked. My AA+ are just now showing life! I can only hope they look nearly as beautiful as your tubs once spawned. :smile:



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Re: The Official AA+ Cubensis Thread (moved) [Re: cronicr]
    #22665187 - 12/16/15 10:23 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)


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AA+ or any albino/luecistic fruits i just pluck, never seen any root all that deep tbh



the damn tex and burma have some deep roots. they are very suitable for stem base cut harvesting.

when i have a super dense full canopy flush i can't even get a pair of scissors in there. so i just twist and pull. but i use both methods depending on timing and density of flush.


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Re: The Official AA+ Cubensis Thread (moved) [Re: eatyualive]
    #22665367 - 12/16/15 11:02 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Hey Eat,

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thanks. did my first pf tek in 1996. multispore, open air inoculation. 100% success. no myths, legends, or fairytales about risky business here. also in all the tubs in this thread, im using set and forget style fruiting. with medium polyfil and either a ceiling fan pushing air. or a small fan in a closet setup pushing air. i also never water anything until after 1st flush. i put all the ingredients in the tub. and let it be. open and harvest other than pictures.

no poly was dialed in on these grows. just all medium in all holes. higher airflow with a fan.




This is unrelated to AA's but would you recommend transferring agar wedges in open air too? Or maybe just a glove box will work?


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