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Loose Verm in PF jars
    #2251830 - 01/19/04 03:01 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

My friend innoculated 3 jar on Jan. 17. They're PF TEK. And were not presure cooked but instead boiled for 2 hours. Each jar had about 1ml of spore liquid. A couple minutes ago he was just checking them out and he noticed that the 'block' of wet verm in the jar is about 1 cm away from the glass of jar and on top its about an inch away from the lid of jar. When he put the mixture into the jars it was up to the very top, just under the lid. He didn't pack it down into the jars but he shook the jars to make sure it was it there good. And on the bottom of the jars now he says that its a lot denser, more packed. Should he be shakeing the jars to make sure all of the contents are loose? No mycelium signs yet but thats just because its only been a couple of days (2). Any adice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!


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Re: Loose Verm in PF jars [Re: JacobM]
    #2251848 - 01/19/04 03:10 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds like it was a little over cooked, you only really need to steam for 1 hour. Does it seem a bit dry in there to, or is the moisture still ok

Its difficult to shake brf, as it sticks together more than grains, so unsure
what to suggest, hopefully others have some ideas.

good luck with it.


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Re: Loose Verm in PF jars [Re: G a n j a]
    #2251866 - 01/19/04 03:21 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

He just read that it was 90 minutes some where so he decided to do it for 120 for safe measure. Hard to tell if it looks dry in there because lots of little tiny bits cover the glass. but i think it farly wet in there. or so i'd like to think. wish me luck. thanks


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Re: Loose Verm in PF jars [Re: JacobM]
    #2251873 - 01/19/04 03:24 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

you dont need to shake PF jars,shaking will only lead to compaction,as you have already observed.


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Re: Loose Verm in PF jars [Re: JacobM]
    #2251879 - 01/19/04 03:26 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

It definitely sounds too wet, if the contents separate during the steaming.
Steaming for 120 minutes is better than steaming for 60 minutes.


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Re: Loose Verm in PF jars [Re: Anno]
    #2252409 - 01/19/04 12:08 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Don't want things to be too wet. This inhibits growth of the mycelium. I never shook my jars... but they took forever to incubate. My layer of verm also fell down into the substrate but that is ok. It will not keep them from colonizing. And don't worry about boiling for too long. It is always better to be contaminant free. I boiled my jars 2 times. Out of 10 jars... 8 survived (1 pint). I have plenty of moisture.


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Re: Loose Verm in PF jars [Re: Dalinkwent]
    #2252589 - 01/19/04 01:39 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the reassurance. I guess he'll just have to leave them alone and let them do what they have to do. thanks!


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