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Mushroomind
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Proof- Weilii do not grow here
#22508808 - 11/11/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I am an ecologist, an avid hunter of both wild edible and medicinal plants and fungi. I've studied habitat and ecology for 8 years now.. I can go out and find pretty much any plant you could find useful in this area especially.. I'm familiar with both landslide and grass habitats. Lacymaria grows in ABUNDANCE around these areas.
 After 3 years of Caerulescens hunting and about 10,000,000 velutina later, I've decided the range map is not going to extend this far north (upstate SC)
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22509156 - 11/11/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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just yesterday on the GA actives thread there was a post where it took a dude 7 years and he was in the known weilii range. Not sure what you have observed amounts to very much... and certainly doesn't amount to the subject line "Proof- Weilii do not grow here".
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: doctorghosty]
#22509429 - 11/11/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh I saw that, he was in the range map tho..
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22509476 - 11/11/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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it's exceedingly hard to prove something doesn't grow somewhere, the chance will always exist under the correct circumstances
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22509502 - 11/11/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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You can't prove a negative.. Not finding something doesn't prove anything besides your inability to find them. It's call an 'appeal to ignorance' logical fallacy. Hell, I can't prove that Psilocybe caerulescens doesn't grow in Oregon or on the moon.
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Mushroomind
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I think u can prove that. U can't prove anything u don't think u can
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22510104 - 11/11/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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And yet you don't know what proof means. Go figure.
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22510130 - 11/11/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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U can prove that shiitakes don't grow in oregon or the moon, just the same as you can prove African lions don't live in either of those places
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22510136 - 11/11/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey canid, prove that I don't know what proof is, your off to a great start not knowing anything about me
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind] 1
#22510243 - 11/11/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mushroomind said: U can prove that shiitakes don't grow in oregon or the moon, just the same as you can prove African lions don't live in either of those places
What about in the zoo?
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22510275 - 11/11/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Your statements themselves demonstrate a lack of understanding of the concept, or if not that then that you're trolling. I don't much need to make my case when you're busing your ass to make it for me.
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: canid]
#22510316 - 11/11/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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canid said: Your statements themselves demonstrate a lack of understanding of the concept, or if not that then that you're trolling. I don't much need to make my case when you're busing your ass to make it for me.
Lol u mad??
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind] 1
#22510335 - 11/11/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Always bro.
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: canid]
#22510527 - 11/11/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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We shouldn't gang up on new people as it makes them feel unwelcome. I apologize.
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22510792 - 11/11/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wasn't trying to start beef, I just don't want you to give up the search
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: doctorghosty]
#22510854 - 11/11/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'll never give up the search, just think I'll be better off heading towards the mountainous higher elevation areas of SC. I wish so badly that they grew here but. As I've said, access roads, new development Bermuda grass, landslides, Years, nothing. I can find Caerulescens habitat no problem, just no Weilii to be found there. I think the only find in SC was towards n ga where the elevation is significantly higher
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22510862 - 11/11/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mushroomind said: I am an ecologist, an avid hunter of both wild edible and medicinal plants and fungi. I've studied habitat and ecology for 8 years now.. I can go out and find pretty much any plant you could find useful in this area especially.. I'm familiar with both landslide and grass habitats. Lacymaria grows in ABUNDANCE around these areas.
After 3 years of Caerulescens hunting and about 10,000,000 velutina later, I've decided the range map is not going to extend this far north (upstate SC)
Seems legit. You can't find what your looking for therefore it does not exist. Proof enough for me! LoL
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: MidnightCity]
#22510891 - 11/11/15 07:02 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mushroomind said: I am an ecologist, an avid hunter of both wild edible and medicinal plants and fungi. I've studied habitat and ecology for 8 years now.. I can go out and find pretty much any plant you could find useful in this area especially.. I'm familiar with both landslide and grass habitats. Lacymaria grows in ABUNDANCE around these areas.
After 3 years of Caerulescens hunting and about 10,000,000 velutina later, I've decided the range map is not going to extend this far north (upstate SC)
Seems legit. You can't find what your looking for therefore it does not exist. Proof enough for me! LoL

Haha I love the gif.. The title is semantics- but I shoulda known it'd get the trolls in an uproar Good job trolling my post
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22510910 - 11/11/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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For real though; you sure don't sound like an ecologist, well maybe a self-proclaimed one.
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22510912 - 11/11/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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If anything is a troll in this situation it's the title of your post. Logic is not a troll.
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22510922 - 11/11/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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MidnightCity said:
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Mushroomind said: I am an ecologist, an avid hunter of both wild edible and medicinal plants and fungi. I've studied habitat and ecology for 8 years now.. I can go out and find pretty much any plant you could find useful in this area especially.. I'm familiar with both landslide and grass habitats. Lacymaria grows in ABUNDANCE around these areas.
After 3 years of Caerulescens hunting and about 10,000,000 velutina later, I've decided the range map is not going to extend this far north (upstate SC)
Seems legit. You can't find what your looking for therefore it does not exist. Proof enough for me! LoL

Haha I love the gif.. The title is semantics- but I shoulda known it'd get the trolls in an uproar Good job trolling my post

Right. I can't really argue with that logic, your method of reasoning is too strong.
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: doctorghosty]
#22510928 - 11/11/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's cool man U don't sound like an engineer But I wouldn't assume that your not, especially based on an internet post Don't trust the internet, it'll go a long way for ya
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22510945 - 11/11/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oh man lets get all the "TI"'a in here and talk about things other than identifying mushrooms.. That's what ti's are best at!
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22511004 - 11/11/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Your mushrooms are Lacrymaria but you already knew that.
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I thought they were Weilii  Jk
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22511111 - 11/11/15 07:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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It might help to compare where you are looking with where they have been found http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/map_observations?q=2fdYt
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22511381 - 11/11/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mushroomind said: U can prove that shiitakes don't grow in oregon or the moon, just the same as you can prove African lions don't live in either of those places
I have observed African lions at the zoo here in Portland. I have also observed shiitakes growing on a log in a friend's yard. You are incorrect.
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mr Piggy]
#22511434 - 11/11/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Okay piggy maybe I'll go find a Weilii farm or zoo in SC!
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22511933 - 11/11/15 10:49 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is this a symatics battle?
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We're indulging the troll now? Times have changed.
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: canid]
#22512542 - 11/12/15 03:42 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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One thing I've learned over my many years of mushroom hunting is that timing can mean almost everything. For example two of my best Liberty Cap fields from past years haven't revealed anything this year - yet some fields I've searched before have yielded greatly this year and never before, at least not when I searched them. Even though the weather has been prime the last few weeks one of these 'new' spots hasn't produced since I found over 60 of them a month ago. Just keep on hunting, it takes timing and luck and persistence - not saying that you don't have the latter. Cheers and happy hunting!
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StInvetroThomas said: One thing I've learned over my many years of mushroom hunting is that timing can mean almost everything. For example two of my best Liberty Cap fields from past years haven't revealed anything this year - yet some fields I've searched before have yielded greatly this year and never before, at least not when I searched them. Even though the weather has been prime the last few weeks one of these 'new' spots hasn't produced since I found over 60 of them a month ago. Just keep on hunting, it takes timing and luck and persistence - not saying that you don't have the latter. Cheers and happy hunting!
Thanks buddy!
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22512869 - 11/12/15 07:59 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Science does not prove, it explains. Mycology is not math.
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Byrain]
#22512878 - 11/12/15 08:03 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Byrain said: Science does not prove, it explains. Mycology is not math.
Blah blah blah We were talking about mycology- I'm obviously joking with the title, can the badge holders not take a joke? DONT LET THE BADGE GO TO YOUR HEAD YOUNG PADWON
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22512881 - 11/12/15 08:04 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think that badge proves that you spend too much time on the internet using Wikipedia and google for people who won't do it themselves
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22512890 - 11/12/15 08:08 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I only skimmed the thread, I'm just letting your know science does not prove anything. I'm not trying to berate you, just help you and hopefully others learn more.
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Byrain]
#22512972 - 11/12/15 08:36 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sorry I don't want anymore flaming in my thread and it seemed like fire, i apologize for being rude or making a funny title to the post but science surely does prove things, I intend to prove my title wrong not explain it wrong, that's science
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22512984 - 11/12/15 08:42 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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No worries, it is interesting to learn that P. caerulescens are least rare in your area. I experience the same with Psilocybe in my part of CA central valley, I don't really mind though since other lbm genera are more interesting.
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Byrain]
#22513420 - 11/12/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Caerulescens are anything but common in my area
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22513453 - 11/12/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Did you look at the distribution map that I linked last night? Because it does look like they grow in the northern part of South Carolina, the western part at least near Seneca.
They are commonly found growing in red clay (Ultisol) so looking at a disruption map of that may prove useful. Also checking recently disturbed and landslide areas might be a good place to start.


We're just trying to help you out man, I don't come here to this site to talk shit to people, I have better things to do with my time. Sorry if it seems like we're giving you a hard time but you're kind of doing the same to us so how should we respond?
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It's will good bro... Yea I looks at the map I've known about the Seneca find for years anyways, and that's nowhere near my area Seneca is higher elevation. I feel like that plays a role in Weilii distribution
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22513495 - 11/12/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Temperature and precipitation might also be factors.
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No shit
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22517036 - 11/13/15 07:50 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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This guy is a complete troll, don't waste your time trying to help him. He told a newbie in an ID thread that their Galerina marginata were psilocybes. Not being able to tell the difference between the two kinda disqualifies you from making statements like the title of this thread.
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mr Piggy]
#22517091 - 11/13/15 08:09 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mr Piggy said: This guy is a complete troll, don't waste your time trying to help him. He told a newbie in an ID thread that their Galerina marginata were psilocybes. Not being able to tell the difference between the two kinda disqualifies you from making statements like the title of this thread.
When did I do that? Your crazy guy. I'm not a troll I'm a human Is never say a galerina was psilocybe. That's popostrous Shame on you PIG
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: doctorghosty]
#22517102 - 11/13/15 08:13 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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It was late, and I preluded that identification with "I might be crazy" Y'all are fu kin childish
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22517111 - 11/13/15 08:16 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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When someone asks for an ID and doesn't know much about mushrooms, even suggesting something is active is a positive ID in their minds. Those are VERY CLEARLY Galerina marginata and not a psilocybe. Do not ID something unless you are absolutely sure, it really does matter.
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mr Piggy]
#22517113 - 11/13/15 08:17 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Womp. Run home piggy
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mr Piggy]
#22517118 - 11/13/15 08:19 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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You can take a stab and guess that a Psilocybe is Galerina bc that guess will not result in some overly eager noob killing themselves, you cannot do the opposite
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22517120 - 11/13/15 08:20 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I quit using this site for years Looks like nothing's changed. Still just a bunch of who's dicks bigger shit I don't need this site for identifications, I'm capable of that on my own I just wish the moral of this sites would rise up out of the shit it seems to stagnate in
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22517121 - 11/13/15 08:21 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, you're clearly a top notch IDer, happy trails
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: doctorghosty]
#22517123 - 11/13/15 08:22 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks man
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Mushroomind
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22517138 - 11/13/15 08:30 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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If some noob ate galerina because someone with under 100 posts said "I might be crazy but those look like cyanescens" which we can all agree they do look like them cause they're considered a LOOK A LIKE - that's not my problem. In fact it's probably like natural selection
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22517142 - 11/13/15 08:32 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Never said they were psilocybe. I said they LOOK like them
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22517156 - 11/13/15 08:36 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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oh, i gotta chime in!
perhaps the site has changed, but you have not?
human nature endures. read some greek tragedies, its almost like the kardashians. sans jenner maybe.
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: RuralAnomaly]
#22517507 - 11/13/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Look at you old farts scaring off the new blood!
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RuralAnomaly
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since we're all quibbling, i'll quibble that he said he's been here before, hence, not new blood.
and mom! billy started it!
ok. i think i'm done.
i did learn stuff regardless of the dickering. maynards maps were interesting and i've always wondered why georgia dirt looked like that but never took time to read up on it til now.
poor dirt. poor, poor dirt.
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mr Piggy]
#22519211 - 11/13/15 05:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mushroomind said: Never said they were psilocybe. I said they LOOK like them
They are Hypholoma marginatum, and they do look like Psilocybes.
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Mr Piggy said: Those are VERY CLEARLY Galerina marginata and not a psilocybe.
Nah, Hypholoma marginatum.
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They are still pretty toxic thought right?
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maynardjameskeenan said: They are still pretty toxic thought right?
They must be edible - they look close enough to Psilocybe that surely hundreds of hippies have eaten them - and none have complained.
It is just the Hypholoma fasciculare group that is toxic, and even that is disputed. Charles McIlvaine ate it with no problem...
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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maynardjameskeenan said: They are still pretty toxic thought right?
They must be edible - they look close enough to Psilocybe that surely hundreds of hippies have eaten them - and none have complained.
It is just the Hypholoma fasciculare group that is toxic, and even that is disputed. Charles McIlvaine ate it with no problem...
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22519300 - 11/13/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok, but try not to be a dick...
Also, seeing lots of Lacrymaria and no Psilocybe is not proof of much. Lacrymaria fruits in many more places than Psilocybe.
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Mushroomind
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Yeah I know Alan... It was a joke. A frustrated joke Lacs fruit like crazy. I was talking to another shroomerite today who said he's hunted this area for 5 years and never found a Weilli but can drive 2 hrs to nga and pick em in the same exact habitats wher ey aren't present here
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22519316 - 11/13/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Psilocybe caerulescens has turned up a couple times in South Carolina and Alabama, but it is much more common in Georgia.
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Mushroomind
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Exactly. Hasn't turned up in my area though. I'm almost in NC
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Interesting, the Nama 30 years of mushroom toxicity only has one Hypholoma fasciculare report from a dog in Colorado who experienced "GI, bradycardia, malaise, staggering".
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Byrain]
#22519386 - 11/13/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well according to some of the TI and piggy, they're "deadly!"
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said: Ok, but try not to be a dick...
No one is going to want to help you if you keeping acting like an 8 year old. So please either stop it or fuck off. We get things wrong occasionally, we are only human. Grow up.
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Byrain]
#22519465 - 11/13/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Byrain said: Interesting, the Nama 30 years of mushroom toxicity only has one Hypholoma fasciculare report from a dog in Colorado who experienced "GI, bradycardia, malaise, staggering".
That is interesting. A couple other people have raised doubts about whether H. fasciculare is actually toxic. You would think if it was, it would poison more people, given how common it is.
I have heard that there are a few species going under that name, maybe some are toxic and others aren't.
Even Wikipedia doesn't seem too sure about it, the one death from H. fasciculare resulted from ingesting multiple species.
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Mushroomind
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Quote:
maynardjameskeenan said:
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Alan Rockefeller said: Ok, but try not to be a dick...
No one is going to want to help you if you keeping acting like an 8 year old. So please either stop it or fuck off. We get things wrong occasionally, we are only human. Grow up.
I never asked for help did I? You wanna act human when u get something wrong but wanna be egotistical when you think your getting things right. Grow up? what a cliche thing to say Good day
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Re: Proof- Weilii do not grow here [Re: Mushroomind]
#22520413 - 11/13/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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You seem to have this enduring need for everybody but you to be the egotist and the asshole.
I'm vaguely amused, but it's not a clever troll.
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