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cube talk
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I hate it when this happens
#22508683 - 11/11/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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5
fuking
grams
of
pan
cyans
NOTHING.. people dont understand how mysterious these things are I mean they really don't. I had one little iddy bitty egg sandwhich like an hour before and that's it
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SteveRogers
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Re: I hate it when this happens [Re: cube talk]
#22508813 - 11/11/15 10:53 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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cube talk said: 5
fuking
grams
of
pan
cyans
NOTHING.. people dont understand how mysterious these things are I mean they really don't. I had one little iddy bitty egg sandwhich like an hour before and that's it
not sure what you are saying here. either you misidentified them or just got poor genetics from multispore if you grew them yourself. with two or three transfers on agar and one flush of fruit bodies, you could produce cyans that would make you cry in the fetal position for 5 hours off of 1.5gram dose.
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cube talk
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Re: I hate it when this happens [Re: SteveRogers]
#22509010 - 11/11/15 11:51 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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SteveRogers said:
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cube talk said: 5
fuking
grams
of
pan
cyans
NOTHING.. people dont understand how mysterious these things are I mean they really don't. I had one little iddy bitty egg sandwhich like an hour before and that's it
not sure what you are saying here. either you misidentified them or just got poor genetics from multispore if you grew them yourself. with two or three transfers on agar and one flush of fruit bodies, you could produce cyans that would make you cry in the fetal position for 5 hours off of 1.5gram dose.
after a 1000'ish trips, 12 years of picking.. I'd say I can identify the species quite well
this isn't the first time this has happened
I am chalking it up to eating them with a semi full stomach.. perhaps the acid and it sitting there degraded it
but still, I've had this happen before. I gotta learn to stop forcing high level trips.. if it happens it happens
and yes I know it's unbelievable.. 5 grams, but it is what it is. And yes it wasn't absolutely "nothing" but it's certainly not anything to write home about. I may have reached a very very low level 2 trip
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SteveRogers
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Re: I hate it when this happens [Re: cube talk]
#22509032 - 11/11/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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it's just genetics dude. I wouldn't read a whole lot into it more than that...whether they are wild or home grown. genetics are the only way true cyans would be completely bunk at a dose that high...no matter how much you ate.
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WChef


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Re: I hate it when this happens [Re: cube talk]
#22509036 - 11/11/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Are you taking any medications that could have interfered with it? If not your most likely issue is alkaloid degradation from poor preservation. Poor genetics is possible but seems quite less likely, and eating them is even less likely to cause your troubles. Most casual users of mushrooms I know strictly take them with food, much less fast beforehand.
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Re: I hate it when this happens [Re: WChef]
#22509135 - 11/11/15 12:23 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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WChef said: Are you taking any medications that could have interfered with it? If not your most likely issue is alkaloid degradation from poor preservation. Poor genetics is possible but seems quite less likely, and eating them is even less likely to cause your troubles. Most casual users of mushrooms I know strictly take them with food, much less fast beforehand.
they were fresh
literally just grabbed them from the field 30 mins out
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Re: I hate it when this happens [Re: cube talk]
#22509142 - 11/11/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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cube talk said:
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WChef said: Are you taking any medications that could have interfered with it? If not your most likely issue is alkaloid degradation from poor preservation. Poor genetics is possible but seems quite less likely, and eating them is even less likely to cause your troubles. Most casual users of mushrooms I know strictly take them with food, much less fast beforehand.
they were fresh
literally just grabbed them from the field 30 mins out
i'm gonna have to agree with steve
as unlikely as it is, it must be genetics
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Aureus
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Re: I hate it when this happens [Re: cube talk]
#22509267 - 11/11/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't think this is about potency or bad genetics, it's more about oxidation.
This has happened with me a couple times in the past. That's why now I always lemon tek, it never fails me. Lemon is an antioxidant, so you don't need to worry about degradation.
Edited by Aureus (11/11/15 01:00 PM)
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Zytan
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Re: I hate it when this happens [Re: Aureus]
#22511375 - 11/11/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Aureus said: I don't think this is about potency or bad genetics, it's more about oxidation.
This has happened with me a couple times in the past. That's why now I always lemon tek, it never fails me. Lemon is an antioxidant, so you don't need to worry about degradation.
It wouldn't of oxidized that much in the 30 minutes between the field to his stomach.
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Leviticus969



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Re: I hate it when this happens [Re: cube talk]
#22511568 - 11/11/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fasting doesnt help if the genetics are lame. Where do u pick from? And whats ur best trip from picking like? Ive always wante to find some.....
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dr.greenfurn
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Re: I hate it when this happens [Re: SteveRogers]
#22512166 - 11/12/15 12:11 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Crying in the fetal position for 5 hours, hahaha
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Leviticus969



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Aka a bad trip imo
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A rewarding experience
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Leviticus969



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Not as rewarding as a good trip
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I feel rough trips teach you more about what's wrong and what you need to change. No trips a bad trip
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Leviticus969



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Personally, i hate those trips. I take shrooms cuz i want to see cool shit n colors everywhere n also to feel good n enjoy life. Cure my anxiety n depression. Those so called bad trips that u say are good are boring to me. Feels like im being scolded by my parents for 4-6 hours n i dont need that crap in my life. Usually those trips have me laying in the same spot thinking about how horrible life is n how much i hate shrooms n i dont think anyone needs that. The funny thing is also, i usually forget what i even thought about by the time i sober up so all it teaches me really is that shrooms suck.
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Aureus
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Re: I hate it when this happens [Re: Zytan]
#22513551 - 11/12/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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In fact it starts oxidizing once you hydrate the mushrooms. Make a tea with lemons and you will see it doesn't turn blue, make a tea without using lemons and you will see it becomes dark blue. The blue color means oxidation.
Edited by Aureus (11/12/15 12:07 PM)
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guyute22
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Re: I hate it when this happens [Re: Aureus]
#22514065 - 11/12/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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wait.... you ate 5g fresh? That is not that much, no?
i would expect 5g dry to drop you to the floor, but 5g fresh blue meanies would give at best a level 1-2 trip IME...
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