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OfflineDr. Delban
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Re: Anyone ever done pure extracted mescaline? [Re: satch1234]
    #22512557 - 11/12/15 03:58 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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O you guys :smile:, I've dosed mescaliine hcl, citrate, acetate, sulfate. Extracted by myself and my friends. The synthed stuff was from a specialist online vendor a few years ago, other users had tested purity levels. Just because you guys haven't heard of or tried something doesn't mean nothing. Isolated mescaline crystals are ideal for dosing and taste, the experience is veeeery different tho. As far as adverse side effects from purity.. hmm that does sound strange and would have to be tested, I generally experience less nausea from crystals but sometimes get more of a headache.. Maybe because with the tea you are simultaneously hydrating :shrug:

As far as it being easier to extract bulk mesc than synthesise it... well you are just completely wrong there fella.




What can you say about all these different mesc salts which you have tried? Is acetate any good?  I'm just boiling some san pedro powder now and considering to add vinegar. So far I am using only tap water.
I have used citric acid in the past but this time I want to use just water. Unless I find an evidence that adding vinegar makes a difference.


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Re: Anyone ever done pure extracted mescaline? [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #22512842 - 11/12/15 07:45 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Did you use at test kit at least to double check what you have? It's weird that you guys think the same chemical varies on different extraction methods. It doesn't. It's the same chemical.


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Re: Anyone ever done pure extracted mescaline? [Re: FeedyouHead]
    #22512861 - 11/12/15 07:56 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Exactly, mescaline extracted from cacti would be identical in effects as synthesized mescalinmescaline.

Maybe the other alkaloids in certain amounts and radios can significantly alter the experience. But those other alkaloids not being present in pure synthesized mescaline probably won't cause you to have a long hangover for days after. That doesn't really make sense imo


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Re: Anyone ever done pure extracted mescaline? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #22512897 - 11/12/15 08:12 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

In my experience with hcl I usually feel better the day after than while on it. That's probably why its possibly my favorite chemical. It gave me some pretty amazing feelings that stuck around for a couple days. (Just feeling on top of the world not actually high after about 12 hours) that being said I've definitely gotten a headache on it. Mine also was ordered off of the net by an old friend so I'm not 100% sure what I have is mesc hcl but I'm almost positive. The marquis test is an identical reaction and the dosages match up to erowid.


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Re: Anyone ever done pure extracted mescaline? [Re: FeedyouHead]
    #22512905 - 11/12/15 08:15 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I kinda got the feeling you meant that you felt poisoned and intoxicated for days after the trip. That sure as hell wouldn't be mescaline lol


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Re: Anyone ever done pure extracted mescaline? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #22512909 - 11/12/15 08:16 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Actually it was Dr that posted about that on the first page, not you. Pardon me


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Re: Anyone ever done pure extracted mescaline? [Re: FeedyouHead]
    #22513105 - 11/12/15 09:21 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Did you use at test kit at least to double check what you have? It's weird that you guys think the same chemical varies on different extraction methods. It doesn't. It's the same chemical.





No I haven't tested it. I will ask the guy who bought it for me because I know that he tested many acid prints from darknet.


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Re: Anyone ever done pure extracted mescaline? [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #22513494 - 11/12/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry been out a bit guys. I wasnt looking for dosage advice. This lady who says she  has it says it lasts 4-6 hours. Ive NEVER heard of cacti being that short nor have i experienced it that short of a duration. So im thinking shes got something else.

I will say that my longest trips on cacti (18-22 hours) were when A LOT of matter was consumed. Almost 2 feet worth of bridgesii. :shrug:

more than anything i was just wanting to see how extracted mescaline compared in duration and effect compared to just straight eating a stalk.

that was all.


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Re: Anyone ever done pure extracted mescaline? [Re: Rewindicus]
    #22513544 - 11/12/15 11:29 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

It takes longer to digest all that material but my cacti trips are all the same length. And she sure as fuck does NOT have mescaline she has a phenethylamine R.C. 4-6 hours my dick


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Re: Anyone ever done pure extracted mescaline? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #22513642 - 11/12/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Chill Orangutan chill haha.. woosa. Sure if you had synthetic hcl and extracted hcl at 99% purity it would be the same drug. A purified substance causing adverse reactions that were not present in a more complex tea is not a crazy idea. Enzymatic processes, receptor blocking e.t.c I have had headaches on tea but they came later and were less pronounced.

By the way who said they felt like they got poisoned? Only you said that dude.

As far as different salts, they are very similiar  but have slightly different durations and subtle effects on the experience because of thier availability. Go sulfate!! Its my favourite for sure and can get it very pure easily, feels nice, still tho with any isolated mescaline it just does not behave the same with larger doses. I wish it did, if I could have crystals that felt like 2 foot of strong tea.. oooo my..


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Re: Anyone ever done pure extracted mescaline? [Re: Rewindicus]
    #22513732 - 11/12/15 12:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

satch, I just made some tea today using only tap water. Which form of mescaline does this contain then? How to make it turn into sulphate?
I'm guessing if I add vinegar to it it will convert into acetate?


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Re: Anyone ever done pure extracted mescaline? [Re: satch1234]
    #22513817 - 11/12/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Chill Orangutan chill haha.. woosa. Sure if you had synthetic hcl and extracted hcl at 99% purity it would be the same drug. A purified substance causing adverse reactions that were not present in a more complex tea is not a crazy idea. Enzymatic processes, receptor blocking e.t.c I have had headaches on tea but they came later and were less pronounced.




I don't buy it. Occam's Razor man. You're creating a much more complex and unlikely alternative explanation based on little evidence, just because you don't like the much more likely explanation that synthetic drugs from the Internet could be misrepresented.


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Re: Anyone ever done pure extracted mescaline? [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #22513842 - 11/12/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Hey man, nah it doesn't work like that actually. To convert the salt form you actually have to first freebase it, this frees it from its attached salt and then you can convert it to what ever you want. You do this buy basing with NaOH and extracting.

Adding vinegar or some acid when boiling is useful for facilitating a better tea and higher yield from the boils, strips the matter down a bit easier


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Re: Anyone ever done pure extracted mescaline? [Re: WChef]
    #22513876 - 11/12/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Extracts are different man.


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Re: Anyone ever done pure extracted mescaline? [Re: satch1234]
    #22514006 - 11/12/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

OK I get it. I will be doing another pull tomorrow morning so I'm guessing I should add some vinegar or lemon. I'm not too sure how much vinegar should I add. If I decide to go for lemon I will squeeze one fruit into it, it should do I guess.


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Re: Anyone ever done pure extracted mescaline? [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #22514095 - 11/12/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I always some acid to the boils, I prefer lemon if you are drinking it. Just squeeze a couple in.


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Re: Anyone ever done pure extracted mescaline? [Re: satch1234]
    #22514207 - 11/12/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

This tea I'm making now is unusual.
Previously I have done some 95% ethanol extractions which were great - fuss free, no mess, once evapped only had to swallow some tar.

In the summer I have run out of ethanol and had no supply so decided to try ISOpropyl alcohol. I bought some 99% ISO very cheap on eBay and did extraction.

After consuming the tar nothing happened. I waited 4-5 hours and not even a slight come-up so decided to take some acid instead.

I have kept the remaining cacti material and making a tea out of it now.

I'm doing this to find out if the actives are still in there.

My theory is that because mescaline is only slightly soluble in alcohol, 99% ISO is no good. Other people on forums who did ISO extracts used 91% ISO which I couldn't find on the web.

The cacti I used was from the same batch which yielded potent tar when extracted with 95% ethanol.

If this tea turns out potent it will mean that I have discovered a whole new tek: removing fats and chlorophyll mess using 99% ISO, then making a tea out of it. This way one would not have to digest all the nasty shit.

Soon I will solve this mystery of impotent 99% ISO extraction, once I will consume the tea.


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