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anonymoose264
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How to grow around my work schedule?
#22507513 - 11/10/15 11:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm getting some of those bags with the filter patches and injection ports. I should have incubation covered. When it comes time to fruit I want to do something like a SGFC but i'm concerned that i will not be around enough. I work 8-6, and usually go to bed at 11. Including travel time this lets me mist once in the morning, again around 11 hours later, however much i need to for for 4.5 hours, and they are left alone for 8 more hours. This seems like it would be an issue. Any thoughts?
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Re: How to grow around my work schedule? [Re: anonymoose264]
#22507532 - 11/10/15 11:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Inoculating wild bird seed in quart jars requires a couple hours of prep and work one day then nothing for 10-20 days then one night of work spawning a monotub nothing for a week or two....then putting in fruiting conditions (30 mins labor) and you forget it again until it fruits....links to monotub logs and teks in my sig
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Re: How to grow around my work schedule? [Re: Mycologist217]
#22507562 - 11/10/15 11:28 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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sgfc's can also be as easy as misting twice a day
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Re: How to grow around my work schedule? [Re: cronicr]
#22507745 - 11/11/15 12:58 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Or you could grow sclerotia!
 
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Re: How to grow around my work schedule? [Re: SalviaGod]
#22507993 - 11/11/15 04:45 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yea man mist before work, after work, before bed maybe. Thats all the maitinence an SGFC requires. If you are too busy for that I dont envy your life one bit!
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anonymoose264
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Re: How to grow around my work schedule? [Re: mushpunx]
#22508072 - 11/11/15 06:18 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I didn't know how frequently it needed misting, I can handle 3 times a day. Mono tubs might not work, my basement has a mood problem, I want them to fully colonize without any infection risk.
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Re: How to grow around my work schedule? [Re: anonymoose264]
#22508113 - 11/11/15 06:43 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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SGFC is made for ppl with your schedule, so is a monotub.
If your basement is full of mold SGFC or a monotub down there doesn't really matter.
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Re: How to grow around my work schedule? [Re: bodhisatta]
#22508200 - 11/11/15 07:31 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yea man mold is most likely to come hidden in your spawn or maybe from poor pasturization.
I definitely think you should spawn your tubs as cleanly as possible without going over board ie washtubs before use, wash hands maybe wear gloves.
Your tubs arent likely to catch anything from the room, especially BRF cakes
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Re: How to grow around my work schedule? [Re: mushpunx]
#22508202 - 11/11/15 07:32 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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And if your room is that bad, neither of the two will save you more than the other
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Re: How to grow around my work schedule? [Re: bodhisatta]
#22508211 - 11/11/15 07:37 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: And if your room is that bad, neither of the two will save you more than the other
How do you mean? Im just confused neither of what two
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Re: How to grow around my work schedule? [Re: mushpunx]
#22508300 - 11/11/15 08:14 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sgfc or Mono's lol
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Re: How to grow around my work schedule? [Re: Mad Season]
#22509009 - 11/11/15 11:50 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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But in a monotub, isn't there a huge risk of contamination when you mix the span with the bulk substrate? Instead I could sterilize pound bags with .02 micron filters and my only chance for contamination pre-fruiting would be while injecting through the self healing port. Or am I missing something about monotubs that make them easier?
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Re: How to grow around my work schedule? [Re: anonymoose264]
#22509039 - 11/11/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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You mix spawn and sub with your bare hands, there's no risk if you spawn is clean to begin with. We fruit in open air too...
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Re: How to grow around my work schedule? [Re: anonymoose264]
#22509166 - 11/11/15 12:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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anonymoose264 said: But in a monotub, isn't there a huge risk of contamination when you mix the span with the bulk substrate? Instead I could sterilize pound bags with .02 micron filters and my only chance for contamination pre-fruiting would be while injecting through the self healing port. Or am I missing something about monotubs that make them easier?
just cuz you are using a mono doesn't mean you have to do bulk subs. you can fill it with colonised substrate and a casing layer just like you would a tray.
i am doing mini tubs with crumbled pf cakes myself and it works great
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Re: How to grow around my work schedule? [Re: DaveyJones6911]
#22509282 - 11/11/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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This what Frank and RR say about contamination risk spawning a monotub....
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FrankHorrigan said: This is part of my series on how I get things done. I hope it helps!
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RogerRabbit said: Once your spawn jars are fully colonized, you can scratch your butt while you inoculate the coir if you want.
I will be using 11 quart jars of substrate I pasteurized using my pasteurization tek. I will be using 7 quart jars of fully colonized WBS I prepped using my WBS tek. This fills my 18gal monotubs up to the 3" mark, which I find is perfect. You can use a deeper substrate but I find 3" substrates perform as well as 4".
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RogerRabbit said: When it comes to spawning a bulk substrate, who gives a shit if you pick your nose while working? It doesn't matter. If the grains were properly prepared and colonized in sterile conditions to full colonization, you can spawn to bulk outdoors if you want to. When you go to the Stamets seminars, you'll see Paul build a straw log or other project outside in the open air and it works fine. However, you can bet your ass the spawn wasn't produced outdoors in the open air.
If your grain spawn is clean and fully colonized and you have properly pasteurized your substrate, you will not see a contam before the first flush.
Therefore, I spawn in open air with minimal precautions. I put on a pair of disposable gloves (non-sterile) and that is that. You can spawn clothed or you can spawn naked, it doesn't matter. No lysol, no oust, no extra cleaning beyond the usual that gets done once or twice a week in my house. I turn off the fans in the room but even that is unnecessary  :
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Re: How to grow around my work schedule? [Re: Mycologist217]
#22509583 - 11/11/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Second in everything that's been said here. I was also concerned I might not be able to give them enough attention, but for the most part they've been fine just misting when I leave, when I get home, and before I go to sleep.
I also have the added problem that I am fairly frequently not home for a day or two at a time, and I run a hydroton humidifier into my sgfc as well, not sure if it actually helps but it makes me feel better, and sometimes things go a little bit shitty when I'm away a couple days, but it works out for the most part.
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Re: How to grow around my work schedule? [Re: Sivarted] 1
#22509738 - 11/11/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mono tub all day
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Re: How to grow around my work schedule? [Re: Mycologist217]
#22509875 - 11/11/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sweet, last question, is using grain nessicary for monotubs? I might do a mono next time for now I'm thinking about brf cakes(from bag not jar) in a SGFC. I want to do 5 species(each in its own cake) so next time I can monotub my favorite. Hopefully I get enough that I won't need to do another run so soon, but I can always grow regular mushrooms until then.
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Re: How to grow around my work schedule? [Re: anonymoose264]
#22510012 - 11/11/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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You can spawn mono tubs from a variety of media: birdseed, popcorn, rye berries, rye grass seeds, whole oats....even crumbled up PF TEK BRF cakes f that's what you are comfortable with
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Re: How to grow around my work schedule? [Re: Mycologist217]
#22510591 - 11/11/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enough cakes for a full size mono would be a fuckton of cakes. I grew cakes, then grated and cased cakes in a shoebox-sized plastic tray but still in my sgfc, and currently have a tray that I spawned wbs to coir/verm in colonizing, same size, going to grow it in my sgfc as well. Also have a bunch of galindoi jars going for stones.
Monos are supposed to be no-maintenance if you dial them in right, I'm just trying a bunch of different things because I enjoy it, and wouldn't even know what to do with a full mono worth of mushrooms.
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Re: How to grow around my work schedule? [Re: Sivarted]
#22510728 - 11/11/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sivarted said: Enough cakes for a full size mono would be a fuckton of cakes. I grew cakes, then grated and cased cakes in a shoebox-sized plastic tray but still in my sgfc, and currently have a tray that I spawned wbs to coir/verm in colonizing, same size, going to grow it in my sgfc as well. Also have a bunch of galindoi jars going for stones.
Monos are supposed to be no-maintenance if you dial them in right, I'm just trying a bunch of different things because I enjoy it, and wouldn't even know what to do with a full mono worth of mushrooms. 
Eat em haha
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Sivarted said: Enough cakes for a full size mono would be a fuckton of cakes. I grew cakes, then grated and cased cakes in a shoebox-sized plastic tray but still in my sgfc, and currently have a tray that I spawned wbs to coir/verm in colonizing, same size, going to grow it in my sgfc as well. Also have a bunch of galindoi jars going for stones.
Monos are supposed to be no-maintenance if you dial them in right, I'm just trying a bunch of different things because I enjoy it, and wouldn't even know what to do with a full mono worth of mushrooms. 
Eat em haha 
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Re: How to grow around my work schedule? [Re: Sivarted]
#22511193 - 11/11/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you are serious about just growing as a hobby and not to get a ton of crop then you would probably really enjoy the pf tek
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Re: How to grow around my work schedule? [Re: Mycologist217]
#22511627 - 11/11/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Also, if you're into it as a hobby and not just a way to get cheap trips, try a bunch of different things, and get into agar sooner rather than later. I do know for a fact that a SGFC will work with your schedule, and that it ends up being pretty versatile as well. With a sgfc, a still air box, and a pressure cooker, you can explore pretty much anything this hobby has to offer.
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Re: How to grow around my work schedule? [Re: Sivarted]
#22522645 - 11/14/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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i have a similar schedule. so planning and timing work on the weekends is vital. i have 1 pressure cooker that holds 10 quarts. you can cook 10 quarts a night. if you do this every night or a few days a week. you can inoculate all your jars on saturday. if you time things properly you can do most of the maintenance work on your free time as well.
for me time is valueable. so liquid inoculants help me shave days and up to weeks off the colonization times on grain. this allows me to time things to just about 7 days to spawn from inoculation of grain. so i can inoculate on saturday. and have jars ready to spawn by the next saturday.
you can pasteurize your bulk subs in the oven friday night. let them cool so they are ready saturday morning.
so a custom routine i follow is this for saturdays.
sleep in. wake up take a shower.
inoculate grain jars.
spawn tubs.
do maintenance work such as transfers to agar, harvesting ect.
now the only thing that is tough to time and control is harvest. that happens when it wants to. so some days i have to wake up at the ass crack of dawn to be out the door by 8am and on the road.
getting a small fan, 2 timers at home depot, t8-6500k bulb 2 foot length. and grow light fixture for a 2 foot wide bulb at walmart is pretty simple. i run a 12/12 on off light cycle. and i put the fan on for 3 hours and off for 30 minutes in a small closet. the fan is pointed directly up at the ceiling not in the direction of the tubs. this pushes airflow up and around the tubs. the tub stacks are slightly elevated so that airflow can move underneath them. depending on environment, you may need to adjust the polyfil in holes depending on high humidity or arid desert.
you can stack tubs ceiling high if you want to get the most out of your space. i find shotgun fruiting chambers more maintenance than monotubs. even large automated humidified setups can be more work than plain monotubs.
once you place your bulk tubs in the setup. there isnt much maintenance other than harvesting. you may need to occasionally water depending on your geographic location(desert, humid climate ect)

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