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Invisiblesudly
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Bipolar experiences?
    #22506932 - 11/10/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I've recently started seeing a psychologist again and have been told I'm most likely bipolar 2. Getting referred to a psychiatrist for an actual diagnosis but it's unlikely to be any different.

I was earlier told I might have a lesser form of BPD which is QBD but that didn't explain my overall mood swinging behaviors.

I have long depressive episodes with sporadic hypo-mania in between where I feel normal for a while, the thing is that being hypo isn't supposed to be normal. I'm either hypo-manic or depressed but rarely in the sanity of the norm.

If anyone else has experiences with bipolar I would love to hear it because I don't really know what to do or think. I'm getting therapy but it doesn't start till after the psychiatrist in several weeks.


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: sudly]
    #22507015 - 11/10/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

My mother is bipolar. She was VERY delusional too. She is on medication now so she's good. I would take what the doctors prescribe, and see if you can ween off the anti-psychotics (if there are any that you have to take). Just ask your doctor about that. There are varying levels of manic depression so I don't know how bad yours might be or if you even need much more than mood stabilizers. Just sit tight for now. No point in worrying too much about it. I would get more than one opinion though for sure.


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: HardTrippin]
    #22507059 - 11/10/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

i was diagnosed with schizoaffectvie disorder which schizophrenia with bipolar disorder but ive recently completed my cosntant suicidal state with medecine and am no longer depressed so its just mania and schizophrenia, plus insomnia


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: sudly]
    #22507104 - 11/10/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Type 2 here too. Never full mania only hypomania in the evenings when the sun goes down or occasionally during the day.

In a nut shell and IME...

Psychiatric meds are dangerous and crude, suicide is definitely a risk, drug usage can be dangerously heavy, psychotherapy works good for depression and CBD or exercise help with hypomania.

Not all BP is serious and life threatening but it can be. If you are ever holding the gun or noose and can't take it any more, voluntarily place yourself under observation at a mental health institute. This honestly saved me twice from shooting myself :shrug:

It's not really too bad of a disorder once you find your routine and coping mechanisms. For me thats smoking CBD dominant cannabis when i'm manic, talking to friends or doctors when suicidal, and avoiding violence at all costs. It's pretty easy to become violent when you are depressed or super energetic.


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: Toadstool5]
    #22507810 - 11/11/15 01:32 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Not interested in any meds except microdosing psilocybin.

The more I talked about it the more my life made sense and my decision making was a little clearer. I've always had a fear of knives because I have the feeling of wanting to stab things when I have one. I'm not suicidal and have never been in a fight so the thoughts always frightened me.


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: sudly]
    #22507873 - 11/11/15 02:26 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I was diagnosed with it when I was a lot younger (probably around 12 or 13) and I never doubted the diagnosis was correct. In the past I sort of had 2 personalities and they just switched randomly for no reason at all. One was stable and even happy, and in a split second I would become very erratic  and even start to seem a little delusional. I really don't feel like breaking it all down, so I'll just leave it at that.

Anyways, meds never helped me, nor did talking to a psychiatrist. I just sort of grew out of it over time and normalized to some point in between those extremes. Didn't happen for a very long time, well over 10 years from the diagnosis (and diagnosis itself is not the start of it all). I still suffer from it to some extent, but is no where near as bad or common.

I don't really have any helpful input on it.. I just got lucky I think. There are many people who live with this their entire lives and in direct contrast to me, only get worse as time goes by.


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I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22507879 - 11/11/15 02:33 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I think just being aware of it is helpful, I've felt the same with having 2 personalities, one being hypomanic the other rather depressed. I've felt like this for several years if not a decade.

I had 6 months of normality on shrooms, most people weren't able to handle or enjoy them as much as I did and maybe the bipolar explains that too.


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: sudly]
    #22507901 - 11/11/15 02:51 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

It doesn't. Shrooms are bad for me more or less. I generally do not handle them well. I stopped all together awhile back because I just gave up. I'll get 1 good trip and it'll be followed by numerous bad ones no matter how I prepare. Your ability to handle shrooms is almost definitely related to something else. I don't have problems with any drug, just shrooms. Even other psychedelics I can handle just fine.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22507914 - 11/11/15 03:06 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I did 4 months of heroic dosing to trip but then 2 months of microdosing as medication for my mood swings.

I could handle the heroic doses because my moods were already erratic well before the shrooms. Microdosing actually stabilised my mood and I felt fine, normal on those days. 0.3-0.8g dry psilocybin cubensis.


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: sudly]
    #22507931 - 11/11/15 03:28 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Everyone's bipolar because guess what, everyone goes through ups and downs.  I've met plenty of people with "bipolar disorder" and they were just neurotic, self-fulfilling, self-confirming behaviors brought on by some doctor that wants the repeat business.  I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder when I was younger but I realized how full of shit that diagnosis was for me and for like 99.9% of everyone else ever diagnosed with it.  It's just not that common of a disorder to have, but it's very commonly diagnosed.  Bullshit.


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: abltsandwich] * 1
    #22507935 - 11/11/15 03:32 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Everyone has ups and downs, not everyone flips from one to the other instantly and with no provocation.

I don't really disagree with you, conditions are greatly over-diagnosed, but .01% being diagnosed correctly? There's no way that is true.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: abltsandwich]
    #22507939 - 11/11/15 03:36 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Have you ever been completely happy then had a leaf brush your eyebrow only to fall to your knees and burst into tears for no apparent reason?
If something similar happens once it's probably nothing, If similarly intense mood swings are the norm, that's not normal.

As a humble opinion, you seem to have a lot of internalised anger from the way you write, you may have symptoms of BPD/QBD with troubles expressing your emotions. BPD is the opposite spectrum of bipolar and it'd make sense that you could have developed it if you were diagnosed as bipolar when younger.


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: sudly]
    #22508035 - 11/11/15 05:46 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I have bpd and bipolar disorder and add.  Life is hard.  It's about 100x harder because you appear healthy and nobody knows how hard it is for you to live with yourself or tolerate even the slightest injuries or perceived slights.  Basically it's like being severely disabled except you get none of the breaks that somebody in a wheel chair is afforded.  I'm mostly very depressive, often for months at a time.

Medication helps me a great deal and I don't believe it's possible for me to function without it.  I have been on meds for nearly a decade and with regular therapy my life is manageable.  I wouldn't go trying to fix yourself with microdosing shrooms.  Finding the right meds is a terrible process and can take years but that's what you have to do.


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: abltsandwich] * 1
    #22509165 - 11/11/15 12:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Everyone's bipolar because guess what, everyone goes through ups and downs




I don't think you quite understand bipolar disorder. Everyone does experience ups and downs but bipolar disorder is more akin to energy and no energy. You can be hypomanic and suicidal or depressive and happy. I have been very calm and unemotional when hypomanic or depressed too :lol:

I do agree with you somewhat, we all have ups and downs and it is WAY overdiagnosed. Probably because they benefit from more patients and pharm sales.

I don't think it should be labeled as a mood disorder because emotions are not a disorder. However it should be recognized as an excitatory/inhibitory disorder of the brain.

Shrooms have helped me before but thc has potentiated hypomania significantly. With shrooms i hardly take 3.5 any more and normally take 0.75 to 1.8g without ill effects. I would avoid stimulants and depressants and tread carefully with psychedelics and disassociatives.

With meds i tried several anti convulsants like lamictal, ssri's, dopamine reuptake inhibitors, and mood stabilizers. They didnt work for me and had bad side effects but for some people they are a life saver :thumbup:


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: Toadstool5]
    #22509878 - 11/11/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I'm diagnosed bipolar 1, if you have any questions about it or need to talk during low cycles I'll be happy to answer or talk. :smile:

Bipolar is a disorder I wish upon no one..


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: sudly]
    #22509958 - 11/11/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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sudly said:
Not interested in any meds except microdosing psilocybin.




Are you in an area in which you can pick cyans, azzies, or pan foen? Especially foen (even though it isn't active in the classical sense).


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: sudly]
    #22509972 - 11/11/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

sudly said:
Have you ever been completely happy then had a leaf brush your eyebrow only to fall to your knees and burst into tears for no apparent reason?




I'd say once a month, but now that I'm healing from being on pain medicine, I've noticed that post acute withdrawal syndrome severely exacerbates it, or both happen in tandem.


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: Toadstool5] * 2
    #22509985 - 11/11/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Try Lamictal with Abilify as a combo.  Lamictal alone provided me some relief for depression but when I got on abilify the combo was life changing.  Biggest thing is racing thoughts subsided and I could actually sleep halfway decent for the first time in my life.

btw, to the moron above, nobody in their right mind would wish this condition upon themselves or anyone they loved or cared about.  Sadly, your mindset is what makes mental illness stigmatized to this day and fuck you and your "ups and downs" :burke: get the fuck out of the thread because you clearly are misinformed and your little anecdote doesn't say shit so you contribute nothing.  think before you post. :tard:

also, it's actually true that many more people are bipolar than are diagnosed.  there's such a societal stigma that people would rather have any other thing wrong with them than to mention they have bipolar or any other mental illness.  if you have mental illness many doors are shut to you in life and you must suffer in silence, thus many do not seek treatment.  The ones you hear about who seek treatment are at least brave enough to do so and hopefully can find some measure of peace in their lives.  Those that do not simply drink themselves to death or gamble, or whatever else even committing suicide.  But drinking at the bar every day to self-medicate is percieved as ok as long as you are not labeled mentally ill.  /rant


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: refried] * 1
    #22510008 - 11/11/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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refried said:
also, it's actually true that many more people are bipolar than are diagnosed.  there's such a societal stigma that people would rather have any other thing wrong with them than to mention they have bipolar or any other mental illness.  if you have mental illness many doors are shut to you in life and you must suffer in silence, thus many do not seek treatment.  The ones you hear about who seek treatment are at least brave enough to do so and hopefully can find some measure of peace in their lives.  Those that do not simply drink themselves to death or gamble, or whatever else even committing suicide.  But drinking at the bar every day to self-medicate is percieved as ok as long as you are not labeled mentally ill.  /rant




Yep. It's funny though; someone born with a bad heart never gets shit for it. Someone's born with some misfiring in their brain and, at times, treated like shit over it. No one asked to be bipolar. I'm sure none of you wanted this. It's a heavy cross to bear, but it feels good knowing you're not alone. That was the worst of it for me and I think it took 4 years to get properly diagnosed.


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: refried]
    #22510080 - 11/11/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

also, it's actually true that many more people are bipolar than are diagnosed.  there's such a societal stigma that people would rather have any other thing wrong with them than to mention they have bipolar or any other mental illness.




Really? I wonder how many people are actually bipolar  :strokebeard:

I shouldn't be so surprised though, many people would rather have a brain tumor instead of a mental issue. It's really sad how people view mental health.


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: Toadstool5]
    #22510123 - 11/11/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The quality of care and consistent care is incredibly hard to find. I didn't realize how lucky I was having the same therapist for 8 years. Even the twin cities sucked, Fargo sucked, the rural country obviously sucked, and so far Oregon sucks. I'm in the Salem area anyway, so no surprise there. I highly doubt I'll ever find someone as helpful as my first MHC professional. And it's like, yeah I'm a little frightened of people with some mental disorders, but that example is the guy yelling about Jesus and banging on my car window. I almost assaulted a guy last week, don't touch me or my property, fuck, especially screaming about Jesus and the old testament. I feel bad but come on, what is someone supposed to think when some ragged random comes up to your car screaming and bangs on your window with a closed fist? The only thing I could think of when my adrenaline chilled out was that he seek help and get better. It's a flawed rotating-door system which exacerbates the stigma. I'd imagine most homeless people are products of the failed system, or drug addicts, or people who have given up on themselves.


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: Adden]
    #22510411 - 11/11/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

well that's a startling inconvenience but I'm glad you can look upon that guy with compassion because he's got it worse than us and there are many people who would have just beat him up.

Mother's side: mom, sister and grandpa bipolar.  Grandpa became a fervent Christian preacher that beat his children and when in a manic or depressive state he and his followers said that he was grappling with Jesus or being punished by God.  Obviously nothing like mental health care existed in those days.  Sister and mom have it worse than I do, sister especially.  Her life is and always has been a mess.  I'm little better except I manage to function somewhat but have used drugs since age 13 and so has my sister to both our detriment.

I've had the same therapist for 9 years so I feel you on that one.  I always have this fear that she will die or retire and then what the hell would I do?


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: Adden]
    #22510448 - 11/11/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

In an area for cubensis, the season starts right about now I might find some organic medicine soon enough.


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: sudly]
    #22510560 - 11/11/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

If you have any notes on micro dosing please see my journal and either start a thread or PM me, please. I would very much appreciate it.


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: Adden]
    #22511186 - 11/11/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

yo. I'm bipolar, sorry for the wall of text I've got here, but I've been learning how to deal with it and I think I've been getting better and better. My shrink actually told me I was in remission recently.

I've been diagnosed as bipolar 1 because when I get manic it can turn into psychosis, but I have more issues with the depression than the mania. The psychosis is oddly manageable now that I've experienced it a few times, once you're not afraid of it, it's rather benign in my case, feels a little like the beginnings of an acid trip, the white noise morphs with racing thoughts and layers and layers of sound build and build upon each other and form some of the most beautiful music I hear like I would if it was playing through speakers. You would never know it was going on if you talked to me while it was happening unless you knew my tells - I stop sleeping, and at times I'll seem a bit more distracted than usual, my mom is the only one that can even begin to guess when I'm in the thick of it. A

It's gotten scary before, but I have PTSD too and honestly the two have very intersectional qualities that makes it hard for me to tell where one ends and the other begins. The most important advice I would have for you would be this :

partition off apart of yourself that remains as objective as possible regarding how you view yourself, how you view the world. If you've managed to maintain composure while heavily tripping, you already know how to do this. This part of you is going to help you through everything, because no matter what you feel, or hear or see(if you're like me), that part of you is going to stay in touch with reality the only way it can be achieved - through objective reasoning. It will be the voice inside your head that says "This is temporary, by the very nature of this disorder, this is temporary" when you're feeling incredibly low, and it will be a reminder for you to watch for symptoms of impending depression if you're hypomanic.

Believe it or not, once you recognize your personal symptoms and 'red flags' that warn that a crash or mania is in the works, you'll learn to control it. First it might take medication, but get yourself into cognitive behavioral therapy, put solid effort into figuring out how that weird fucked up brain of yours works(I say that with love, and as an owner of a weird fucked up brain btw) and there is a real chance you could live a very normal life even without meds.

Currently I'm in "remission". I've been off my meds for a few months, and I feel better than I did before, I do smoke a lot more weed than I was for the majority of the year - but honestly it's been helping me so much, I feel so..human lol. I do think I was starting to slip and fall into a depressive phase at the beginning of this month, and honestly I do feel like I avoided it by the skin of my teeth..but I still fought it off!

But of course, objective reasoning tells me that I need to be on the look out for a crash, and I'm always wary that any happiness I feel is actually hypomania, which is honestly the one thing that I hate most about being bipolar. That constant question.

If you have any questions or want to pm me to talk ever, please feel free to.


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #22511553 - 11/11/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Interesting. Great to hear you're doing well, but this is the first time I have ever heard the word "remission" used in a sentence with bipolar disorder.  What I have read, been told and experienced is that symptoms actually worsen with age and that goes double for those who remain untreated and medicated.  In other words, I think your psych is wrong or perhaps trying to soften the blow: there's no "cure".

Also, what you describe is reminiscent of schizophrenia so it's certainly possible to have both disorders, I would not discount that.  How old are you if you don't mind me asking?  Schizophrenia usually appears in your 20 and can be  uncovered more rapidly and easily with the use of psychedelic and other drugs.

I'm also curious about micro dosing and know almost nothing about it.  But it seems strange to do something like that without working with a psychiatrist or therapist at the same time.  Is this part of your plan?  How do you measure a micro dose, how long do you do it for, and what do you hope to get from it?  Why mushrooms?  Is there literature on this?


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: refried]
    #22511638 - 11/11/15 09:28 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Remission is not cure.
There is no cure. This is something I'll be managing my whole life, but it is still very much a medical term that applies to psychiatric disorders as well.
http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/articles/bipolar-disorder-defining-remission-and-selecting-treatment

I have to look at it frankly and say that I will definitely relapse again, and honestly, I wouldn't rule it out in the near future. I'm already on the lookout.

And while I have thought in the past that I might have schizoaffective disorder, but again, contrary to popular trains of though, psychosis appears in bipolar patients as well as in people with depression. It's still possible, but honestly I will no consider anti-psychotic medication unless the benefits outweigh the negatives, and I am so not down with those negatives at the time.

I'm 23, I was diagnosed with depression at 13, and re-diagnosed with bipolar disorder and ptsd. The psychosis began at around 20, and yes, I know psychedelics can hasten the onset. I think they did in a way, but I also feel like they've...quieted my brain down in a way. I think that if I overuse them or get reckless it's possible I could fly off the rails, but I think anyone is capable of flying off the rails with enough drug use.


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: refried]
    #22512149 - 11/12/15 12:05 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Microdosing with magic mushrooms works because the psilocybin metabolises into psilocin which is almost chemically identical to serotonin, an important mood regulating neurotransmitter.

If people are iron deficient they are given iron tablets, if someone is serotonin deficient, why not simply give them serotonin? (psilocin)

I told my psychologist about it and they had no idea what I meant, maybe the psychiatrist will understand better.

A microdose of shrooms is no more than 0.8g dry. 0.3g is good to begin with but over the days it goes higher as tolerance growns. 3 micro doses a week of 0.5g dry keeps tolerance in check.

I intend to start microdosing again because it put me inbetween hypomania and the norm, just a little above which was perfect. My subjectivity was highly inhibited and I had a overall objective outlook throughout the day.

The only thing not to do with microdosing is take it in the afternoons because you will have difficulties sleeping, if taken in the morning sleep is wonderful.

I'll make a thread for microdosing again when I begin but that may not be for several weeks.


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Re: Bipolar experiences? [Re: sudly]
    #22512167 - 11/12/15 12:11 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

didnt read thread cause bi polar


sometimes its great I get so much done.......



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    #22512326 - 11/12/15 01:16 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Did everyone else experience some type of psychosis around age 20, exacerbated by psychs or not?


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    #22512344 - 11/12/15 01:33 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

well before my time in the miltary I didnt use any drugs like besides the acceptable legal ones.


tabacooo and booze. maybe underage but yeah ....... I had a bar tab before I was 21 



wizh i could help but yeah own shitr


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    #22513283 - 11/12/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Did everyone else experience some type of psychosis around age 20, exacerbated by psychs or not?





yes. Possibly exacerbated by psychs, but I think it was more so triggered by emotional trauma/that shit, I trip once every few months, sometimes more, sometimes less, psychedelics generally make me feel like my brain is quieter after the experience. For some time, too.


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    #22513304 - 11/12/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

When I was 16 I was diagnose with depression. I was medicated for it and was ok for a while.

When I turn 21-22 I began having cycles where I was either super depressed or ridiculously ambitious. I thought of course that it was totally normal, but my parents told me that my behavior was erratic and delusional. To think that I actually had a full time job at that time kinda makes me feel weird because now I realize that my cooworkers might have though I was completely off my rockers.

My mother whom I inherited my disease from, finally got diagnosed bi-polar by her psychiatrist after decades of having cycles of depression and 100 work weeks... Since we have thesame doctor, I was suggested to try bi-polar meds to see what would happen. And there you have it. From that point on in my life, I was officially level headed. I'm still a basket cases, but at least I can have somewhat of a normal life.


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    #22513558 - 11/12/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

No but I was much more unstable around 16-20  :heresjohnny:

I think the closest i have ever come to psychosis was seeing puffs of smoke and blue lights that didn't exist.


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    #22513675 - 11/12/15 12:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I completely lost my marbles. I'm glad my original account got swiss cheesed. I don't think I could stand to read my old posts here. It was bad.


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    #22514146 - 11/12/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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having cycles where I was either super depressed or ridiculously ambitious




I can relate to that! Being too ambitious and then failing would cause me to become very depressed. I still get upset sometimes when projects fail but don't completely melt. I failed to germinate 30+ hylocereus undatus recently and I simply accepted it :lol: no attempted murder or property damage this time :thumbup:

Glad to hear you are doing better now Dys! I have definitely caused my fair share of shit too but like you i have found better ways to maintain and coexist with people.


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    #22514282 - 11/12/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I have a lot of alcoholic friends (no longer drinking) that are diagnosed bipolar....I wonder if there is a connection other than just using alcohol as a mood stabilizer.:shrug:


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    #22514296 - 11/12/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Most people I've known, including myself, have had problematic drinking either before getting diagnosed, during, or currently. It's a sad state of affairs. My Lamictal and Xanax work well and I'm hitting a remissive state, but PAWS is throwing my thought processes for a loop. If you couldn't tell by my posts of course.


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    #22514303 - 11/12/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I completely lost my marbles. I'm glad my original account got swiss cheesed. I don't think I could stand to read my old posts here. It was bad.



yeah wish you where around i want to be done with this site but some people i still should talk too......


While its always been about the LOLS this place has hit a new low. A low that I am not going in I keep waiting to hit bottom and just get worse and worse


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    #22514327 - 11/12/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You're a good man and life hasn't been easy on you. I'd stick around. There's a lot of support here. I've also noticed if you reach out privately to a person, they're almost completely different than their posts. It's weird.

And sorry I didn't respond to your message in full last night. I am very sorry for the loss of your comrades. I'm sure though that they're glad you made it back stateside. :hug:


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    #22515417 - 11/12/15 07:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I have a lot of alcoholic friends (no longer drinking) that are diagnosed bipolar....I wonder if there is a connection other than just using alcohol as a mood stabilizer.:shrug:






Drug use and psychiatric disorders in general are linked. Alcoholism and bipolar disorder is no exception.


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having cycles where I was either super depressed or ridiculously ambitious




I can relate to that! Being too ambitious and then failing would cause me to become very depressed. I still get upset sometimes when projects fail but don't completely melt. I failed to germinate 30+ hylocereus undatus recently and I simply accepted it :lol: no attempted murder or property damage this time :thumbup:

Glad to hear you are doing better now Dys! I have definitely caused my fair share of shit too but like you i have found better ways to maintain and coexist with people.






yup, for sure. Honestly, I think that's the perfect way to describe what being bipolar is like to other people in most type 2 and some type 1 cases. I am an extremely amiable person, and most people describe me as one of the most emotionally rational people they've met, so they're shocked when I tell them I'm in fact, bipolar. Intellectually, I know I have to be rational because of the things I feel sometimes. I'm also one of the least angry people you'll probably meet, much more likely to ignore folks than lash out or try and play any games. I think people just tend to confuse bipolar with borderline, tbh.

I don't tell people about the psychosis. Once you go down that road, I feel as though you're second-guessed constantly, even when you have it under wraps and are in remission. I'm a naturally strange person, but most people find it endearing or quirky, and I feel like if I told them I was hearing seven symphony orchestras in my head or tried to describe the odd things that go on in my brain to such a vivid extent, they would think I was in that state constantly. I do open up about it a little more with close friends, very few know.


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    #22515695 - 11/12/15 08:36 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I experienced drug induced pyschosis twice in the last year and for the first time ever.  It was fucking bizarre and frightening.  I know it's drug related, but the level it happened on was probably magnified by 100  since I'm bipolar.  Meth and mxe are the drugs of choice for me and both cause very severe disturbances in that area.


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