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Please help determine Azurescens or Hypholoma
    #22505347 - 11/10/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Habitat:
Where does it grow? oregon coast away from woods.
Gills:
purple drying to dark purple

Cap:
olive bluing

Spore print color:
purplish brown

Bruising:
blueish
Other information:
smelled fresh and psilly





so i am sure i have no galls in this bunch but now im trippin if there may be some hypholoma...I ate just under 3 grams dry about 5 days ago, I know it is stupid to ask later. I have hunted other species before and felt confident with id's and bluing until reading about the hyphos ability to tinge green and blue...I have only had some mild gi distress that i would associate with mushroom usage in the past, had i not read all this info on the hyphos...

if there are any T.I.'s that would take the time to look at these shots i would be greatly appreciated. i spore printed most the questionable and have them stored. but now i am questioning my judgment all together. I haven't had diarrhea or thrown up, no nausea. just some bubble guts and mild stomach cramps. eating fine, just a lil anxious about the uncertainty.

do any of these even remotely resemble hyphos or any other species for that matter...thank you... sorry to be a bother.


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Re: Please help determine Azurescens or Hypholoma [Re: ti22y]
    #22505363 - 11/10/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

:thumbup: good stuff man. But wait for a T.I. First before you go munching away!

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Re: Please help determine Azurescens or Hypholoma [Re: ti22y]
    #22505373 - 11/10/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Please don't eat anything before you know for sure - based on what I see you have Azurescens .... but many are so far gone that it is difficult to tell completely for sure. I see some that are certainly azzies but like I said some are very old and in a poor state. Stick to picking the more fresh ones and like the ones in the pix you are holding in your hands - as far as I know Hypholoma also grow in a different habitat to azurescens as well.


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Re: Please help determine Azurescens or Hypholoma [Re: StInvetroThomas]
    #22505436 - 11/10/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Who expected to open a thread containing the words "Azurescens or Hypholoma" in the title, and see Psilocybe azurescens?

:rofl:

Good job, OP.


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Re: Please help determine Azurescens or Hypholoma [Re: ti22y]
    #22505487 - 11/10/15 02:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

ti22y said:
do any of these even remotely resemble hyphos or any other species for that matter...thank you... sorry to be a bother.




They do certainly not resemble Hypholoma sp. although old H. marginatum might fool you from a distance.
These are definitely a blueing Psilocybe sp. and as already said likely P. azurescens. Mind you I never saw or touched them irl.

But I guess you already knew those weren't "hyphos"...


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Re: Please help determine Azurescens or Hypholoma [Re: Anglerfish]
    #22505603 - 11/10/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you all for your reassurance. i am going to take all the older ones and make spore solutions for home style beds... The more I read the more i fear, the more I know the better choices i make.  I was foolish to not get a proper I.D. initially. And damn the trip was so intense i was floored. Cubes never got that 3D or white light ego loss. I was bordering on Acid trip visuals...The trip itself was proof I was on my money.
The person i went with noted to me that lookalikes would grow toward the woods and generally as far as they knew there were not any. Foolish taking someone else's advice, yet they did find proper specimens and had picked the patch times before...Thanks again for takin the time to chek my pics. I am flatted I exceeded some of your expectations. I love this community and look forward to giving back with the pieces of my foolish avarice...any thoughts on chips to buy to start AZ cultures outdoor? I am studying some indoor tech but theses things take time..


Also, I knew they were not hypholoma fasciculare due to habitat and lack of yellow. but the hypholoma marginatum had me definitely guessing...some the pics on the board that would prolly have shown me this had been deleted by user...thanks again.


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Re: Please help determine Azurescens or Hypholoma [Re: elprawn]
    #22505656 - 11/10/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

elprawn said:
Who expected to open a thread containing the words "Azurescens or Hypholoma" in the title, and see Psilocybe azurescens?

:rofl:

Good job, OP.




Hey azzies can be tricky for novice or amateur hunters.

;]

Lookit my thread from this weekend. Went from derp to success overnight; and I also got considerably worried about mixing up two since they were old and at opposite sides of the patch. They weren't dropping spores for me either.

Mushroom hunting/observing is unique for sure.

As for azzies, I'm leaving older ones for now. Not keeping anything that doesn't stand out as a positive ID... there were gals and mycena on the outer perimeter of the patch.

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Re: Please help determine Azurescens or Hypholoma [Re: elprawn]
    #22505790 - 11/10/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

elprawn said:
Who expected to open a thread containing the words "Azurescens or Hypholoma" in the title, and see Psilocybe azurescens?

:rofl:

Good job, OP.





:wink: Indeed :smile:


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Re: Please help determine Azurescens or Hypholoma [Re: StInvetroThomas]
    #22506034 - 11/10/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Also I do not i believe i see what would be any Orellanine containing species present due to soil content and color. just want to be sure before i lay this one to rest...Does anyone have any insight on coastal dune shrooms that would contain such a horrible substance? The thought of eating something like that is nightmarish. thanks again.


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Re: Please help determine Azurescens or Hypholoma [Re: ti22y]
    #22506134 - 11/10/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I am pretty confident that those would have orange gills, and be much darker. From what I can tell on the web, they would most likely only grown in or very near the trees. and would be high ly distinguishable against a psilocybe. but you guys are the pros! I am just getting my marks over here :smile:


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Re: Please help determine Azurescens or Hypholoma [Re: ti22y]
    #22506146 - 11/10/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I'm far from pro. I'm brushing up on myco since it's been a decad. I've only eaten pan subbs growing up in CT, edibles in MN, and now just starting actives. In the interest of expanding knowledge I'd like to see what TIs or others say.


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Re: Please help determine Azurescens or Hypholoma [Re: Adden]
    #22506218 - 11/10/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Ima just go ahead and say after research that there are no corts present. if anyone conflicts with this please let me know asap. i checked habitat and macro, all seem to be out of the question. Maybe a webcap could be mistaken but they are very rusty brown with much thicker stipe, from what i can tell...


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Re: Please help determine Azurescens or Hypholoma [Re: ti22y]
    #22506531 - 11/10/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Your very last pic is azzy. Guessing on rotten ones always suck, so I wont. You do know how to look for azzies. Do prints and read and read while the spores fly.


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Re: Please help determine Azurescens or Hypholoma [Re: AstaCrazyBull]
    #22506633 - 11/10/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

homie my hands and palms had holes and razor cuts for days! looked like a pincushion.i thought i knew what was up.but the more I learn the more I question...got the prints on the way. nobody asked yet. didnt want to contam my prints but i got shots of what the rotten caps dropped to put up about 5 mins. this will be the tell tale...


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Re: Please help determine Azurescens or Hypholoma [Re: ti22y]
    #22506661 - 11/10/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I did say to Spore print.


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Re: Please help determine Azurescens or Hypholoma [Re: AstaCrazyBull]
    #22506961 - 11/10/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

My bad, here we are most of these are the rotten ones and some of the older specimens.



and the ones i will keep to eat this year...




and the rotten ones dry and some loose stems i am shacky about ...some decent contrast shots of stems ...





hope these are sufficient..I feel the spore prints are on and the gold and blue dries are worth hangin on to.


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Re: Please help determine Azurescens or Hypholoma [Re: ti22y]
    #22506965 - 11/10/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

might i add alot of the spore prints came from the rotten ones...


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Re: Please help determine Azurescens or Hypholoma [Re: ti22y]
    #22506987 - 11/10/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

sorry i am a lil stoned.


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azurescen spore prints up for I.D. [Re: ti22y]
    #22507099 - 11/10/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I will mention that I ate roughly 3 grams of these and have had mild stomach cramps . That was about 5 days ago. Best trip in a while. I was certain to begin with but now I second guess myself. No vomit, No Nausea,Anxiety and some muscles waking up of psilocin but nothing tragic so far...The wood lovers do have me sweatin' alil though. Would any T.I.'s peak at theses new pics with the prints and give me an opinion. What ever was left of my trip has turned into a mission of certainty.


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Re: azurescen spore prints up for I.D. [Re: ti22y]
    #22507242 - 11/10/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Those are definitely psilocybe and safe to eat. I would say deff azurescens. What are you worried about?
What part of Oregon? Do people find azures outside of Astoria?


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