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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Link?
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/10/18/sanders-would-raise-payroll-taxes-on-everyone-to-fund-paid-family-leave/
And while you're there, please read every article posted in the last week, it'll prepare you for better discussion on these and other topics
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Falcon91Wolvrn03
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Thank you. A 0.2% increase to bring America on par with the rest of the industrialized world seems worth it.
But you are correct on this point.
Now, if only you could follow this example and let the facts speak for themselves, rather than your typical DURR, LIBTARD, DURR response to all the facts you are constantly bombarded with.
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So trump is now at 40%...
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Thank you. A 0.2% increase to bring America on par with the rest of the industrialized world seems worth it.
But you are correct on this point.
Now, if only you could follow this example and let the facts speak for themselves, rather than your typical DURR, LIBTARD, DURR response to all the facts you are constantly bombarded with.
thats only what he is proposing to come up with whats need for some "family leave" BS, and you know it will go up, it always does... go ahead and throw in the free education and single payer healthcare and the "making the PO banks" whatever the fuck that means, and you've got yourself a full blown socialist marxist totalitarian tax increase...
and I wouldn't need to "durr. libertard, durr" if you weren't so "durr, i love big govt! durr, durr"
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: A 0.2% increase to bring America on par with the rest of the industrialized world seems worth it.
thats only what he is proposing to come up with whats need for some "family leave" BS, and you know it will go up, it always does...
Spending always seems to go up, but not tax rates to keep up.
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hostileuniverse said: go ahead and throw in the free education and single payer healthcare and the "making the PO banks" whatever the fuck that means, and you've got yourself a full blown socialist marxist totalitarian tax increase...
It was already explained in previous threads how Bernie would pay for those (a Wall Street speculation tax for free education, for example), but you obviously weren't paying attention.
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hostileuniverse said: and I wouldn't need to "durr. libertard, durr" if you weren't so "durr, i love big govt! durr, durr"
You don't seem to understand when Government is good and when it's not good. Are you ok with roads and bridges? With teachers and firefighters? With more money for the middle class? If the answer is yes to any of the above, then some Government is ok. I'm not calling for unlimited Government. Simply for Government to do the things that help average Americans.
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With more money for the middle class?

How is the middle class gonna have "more" money when our taxes are raised exponentially???
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Middle class taxes won't be raised "exponentially". You found there might be a 0.2% increase. Many things that help the middle class don't even have to come from tax increases. They can be minimum wage hikes, or laws protecting union rights, for example.
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Here is the live stream for tonight's GOP Debate. Currently underway, but the main cage fight begins at 8:30 EST, and I expect Cruz to show his grand skills tonight. 
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/14/politics/republican-debate-live-updates/index.html
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Thank you for the link. Should be interesting to see who the establishment is arranged to go after worse this evening considering they hate both Cruz and Trump. Things will get a lot more interesting as candidates start to drop out to see where their numbers go.
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Re: Live Stream for tonight's GOP Debate [Re: Astral Pain]
#22659724 - 12/15/15 06:34 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey there! That first round was actually an excellent debate, but yes, this one getting ready to start should be seriously extreme, indeed. It is said that Cruz will not attack Trump first, but if Trump attacks him, Cruz is going to hit back without his gloves!
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this should be good.
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Re: Live Stream for tonight's GOP Debate [Re: akira_akuma]
#22659749 - 12/15/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes, I believe Trump and Rubio will attempt to tag team Cruz, but I have high confidence that he can take on both of them with ease. Here we go!
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oh man, i dont know how any american can take the GOP debates seriously. makes me just want to vomit all over you, SD and SMK.
i'm watching it now, in pieces. i have to break it up. I dont know why i do this to myself. I always regret it. Its like self-flagellation.
I'll probably leave a comment on it later...
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Re: Live Stream for tonight's GOP Debate [Re: Tipote]
#22668664 - 12/17/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tipote said: oh man, i dont know how any american can take the GOP debates seriously. makes me just want to vomit all over you, SD and SMK.
i'm watching it now, in pieces. i have to break it up. I dont know why i do this to myself. I always regret it. Its like self-flagellation.
I'll probably leave a comment on it later...
.. once i clear up all this vomit..
and with that description, I'm sure whatever you say will be informative and unbiased:roll eyes:
seriously, why even watch? its not like you are going into with an open mind, is it?
you've already made up your mind, you will support the party that supports unfettered abortion, aren't you???
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dude, what you just insinuated that the GOP debate was anything more than absolute idiocy...you have forfeited your rights to speak, ever again, on the matters of politics.
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Tipote said: oh man, i dont know how any american can take the GOP debates seriously. makes me just want to vomit all over you, SD and SMK.
i'm watching it now, in pieces. i have to break it up. I dont know why i do this to myself. I always regret it. Its like self-flagellation.
I'll probably leave a comment on it later...
.. once i clear up all this vomit..
and with that description, I'm sure whatever you say will be informative and unbiased:roll eyes:
seriously, why even watch? its not like you are going into with an open mind, is it?
you've already made up your mind, you will support the party that supports unfettered abortion, aren't you???
no.. i assume youre meaning the democratic party but they do not support unfettered abortion, straw man king. For the record, i don't support either the democrats or republicans. if it makes you feel any better, i also during the democrat debates too...
i always go into watching it with an open mind (for example i like maybe 2 things that Rand Paul said), i like to see the level of "debate" but time and time again its just full of loads of artifical bullshit with the constant beating of the war drum in the background. 99% of the time they even don't answer the questions and just try to fill their time slots with empty talking. Its like..words are coming out of their mouths and it looks like they are saying something.. but what they are saying doesnt actually mean anything or when it does they have draconian implications.
They just throw sentences out there like "america is the greatest country on the face of the earth in the history of the universe, saviour of the galaxies, hero of the milky way, destroyer of worlds...etc" . In answer to questions about how you would help ensure the american people are not paralyzed by fear or something, chris christie just focused on fear mongering saying he would tell the american people that the terrorists can attack anywhere, that EVERYWHERE is a target. I thought...oh SHIT..I FEEL BETTER
and LOL at carson..its like he has given himself a lobotomy.. wow. how sweet his 4 seconds silence was for the victims of the attack..vomit
Also they all want tech companies in silicon valley to be forced to give back doors to the government. trump is now talking about how the internet is american and wants to get in there and penetrate the hell out of it ?? they openly lie about how collecting data is not invasion of privacy. they want an increase in the incredibly excessive powers they have already. man its just all so terrible. do you think these powers would just be used against islamic extremism?
why do i watch it? because i'm interested in politics in general and i am a citizen here. its kind of good to know the kind of shit they are spouting especially if one of those fucking idiots become president and i get drafted or something. Even if it does just make me face palm myself into oblivion, it may still effect me in a big way. Even if I will be in Europe, it affects me.
so far i hear war war war fear fear war war kill kill bangbang but ive only watched about 25%.........so that might change.. aha..
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Re: Live Stream for tonight's GOP Debate [Re: Tipote]
#22674468 - 12/19/15 12:24 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tipote said: oh man, i dont know how any american can take the GOP debates seriously. makes me just want to vomit all over you, SD and SMK.
i'm watching it now, in pieces. i have to break it up. I dont know why i do this to myself. I always regret it. Its like self-flagellation.
I'll probably leave a comment on it later...
.. once i clear up all this vomit..
Factual flaws no hindrance to GOP candidates' debate bluster
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Tipote said: oh man, i dont know how any american can take the GOP debates seriously. makes me just want to vomit all over you, SD and SMK.
i'm watching it now, in pieces. i have to break it up. I dont know why i do this to myself. I always regret it. Its like self-flagellation.
I'll probably leave a comment on it later...
.. once i clear up all this vomit..
Factual flaws no hindrance to GOP candidates' debate bluster
haha good clip. dont let the facts get in the way of a good story ey?
I spotted the one about King Hussein hehehe, Chris Christie is such a bumhole
there was also someone else who blamed Obama for Trumps comments about muslims..
and they came out with the "San Bernadino said stuff publically on social media" stuff.
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hostileuniverse said: you will support the party that supports unfettered abortion
What do you have against abortion?
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Re: Live Stream for tonight's GOP Debate [Re: Enlil]
#22680154 - 12/20/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Enlil said:
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hostileuniverse said: you will support the party that supports unfettered abortion
What do you have against abortion?
everything
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