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The Shroomery Think-Tank 2
#22504867 - 11/10/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Over the years of being a regular here, i have noticed a few things. For one, there have been many interesting topics and subsequent discussion/debate. For two, these topics and discussions, while interesting, literally never resolve any actual problem we as a people are currently facing.
I see great potential for actual meaningful progress, given the right direction, many of you are incredibly smart and observant..
Why are we wasting our time debating things which serve no actual purpose? I propose we take ourselves a bit more seriously, and apply our intellect towards identifying modern-day issues, and solving the identified problems with logical solutions which we come up with, not as individuals, but as a collective whole.
I know for a fact the potential for meaningful contributions is here..like i said, many if not everyone reading this is a thinker, of high intelligence and deep sensibility..We just need direction. The potential for an effective think-tank is, without doubt, present. This is something I just realized, and i perhaps more than any one here, am guilty of never discussing or presenting anything which could lead to actual change..
For that, i apologize. I promise to be better, for everyones sake. I believe in you, and you should believe in yourself.. lets break away from this "debate" type of paradigm and do some real work.
What say you?
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: hTx]
#22504958 - 11/10/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I say that the biggest problem we face is being poisoned like lab rats in a global geoengineering program out in the open yet somehow a conspiracy theory and not doing basically squat about it. I have tried to discuss this on this forum and it's useless. Perhaps people aren't ready or willing to have their paradigm challenged let alone broken down into four nickels.
If anything, folks on here for the most part think that climate change really is man made and global warming is man made and CO2 is the cause of global warming and 97.1% of all scientists agree to those notions. Because, who wants to be wrong, even if it means being taxed up the ass, and eventually not being able to drive, period.
How can you fight the globalists and their agenda, when you can't even get consensus that the masses are taking it up their asses. We have folks on here that are against private property. Some real socialists anc communists. That is appalling to me, and the dumbocrats and resmuglicans are doing it too, and folks still think one party is different from the other somehow when the banksters pay off all of them.
At some time I actually held out hope that there were some folks on here capable of truly open minded thought based on physical reality.
Maybe I look at the world as a place worth at least trying to save, and to protect. The divided and conquered can't even begin to get past their fear of evil to start to see it.
And that's OK too. Ignorance is bliss, we hear it from the ignorant just how happy they are in their little debt slave existence madly trying to keep treading money water.
It's funny, people that don't have jack shit in savings always dress 3x better than me and have nicer cars. Well not always, but isn't that the way? Illusions, not reality, are what matter.
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I think its a good idea. But if we don't follow up on our conclusions with concrete action, then I don't see much of a point. We need to discuss issues that are small enough that we can make a difference. Shroomerites aren't gonna spark some global paradigm shift (not alone, anyway). We need to narrow our aims to something we could grapple with if we work together.
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: hTx]
#22505086 - 11/10/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Real problems get solved by a team of experts specializing in that specific field, lots of work, and tons of money. We're not solving anything here. I only come here for entertainment.
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: White Beard]
#22505502 - 11/10/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm surprised anyone could even suggest that what we do here might be used to change the world in some way. It just seems a completely bizarre suggestion to me. Like suggesting that if we all fart at the same time we might be able to cause a hurricane somewhere.
I'm here to change myself. To change the way I see the world and think about it all. And that I most certainly have done in my years here, and in doing so, I have improved my life ten-fold.
But I'm under no illusion about my ability to affect this world. I mean really, what are a bunch of forward thinking druggies gonna stand a chance at changing other than ourselves?
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I lean more towards Jsb's position. I'm all for increased cooperative dialogue over contentious debate, and I think I already post that way for the most part, but Jsb is right -- to really change the existential nature of anyone or anything -- other than oneself, and even that's hard -- is a very tall order. What we're doing already -- engaging in an open forum about vital subjects democratically -- is more than most citizens can say they are doing. (And Facebook doesn't count). I really think the Shroomery is a manifestation of democracy, and not superfluous. I like to remind Shroomerites of that when I can.
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Good thread/post hTx
I just don't know about conspiracy theories, I think often with these you just need to go outside. Same with doomsday theories. A lot can happen in your little room on your computer if you're not careful, all sorts of unusual ideas can make their way into your mind.
Especially if you're chemically imbalanced / have a psychotic disorder ... such people, and I'm more or less one of them, are magnetically attracted to conspiracy. The whole world seems kinda dark to us so why not the odd genocide conspiracy?
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: circastes]
#22506458 - 11/10/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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circastes said: Good thread/post hTx
I just don't know about conspiracy theories, I think often with these you just need to go outside. Same with doomsday theories. A lot can happen in your little room on your computer if you're not careful, all sorts of unusual ideas can make their way into your mind.
Especially if you're chemically imbalanced / have a psychotic disorder ... such people, and I'm more or less one of them, are magnetically attracted to conspiracy. The whole world seems kinda dark to us so why not the odd genocide conspiracy?
Another load of bullshit fluff off slough off anyone who dares to challenge the notion that the world is all peachy keen must be crazy.
I'm glad you young uns are going to be the ones sucking in aluminum for the rest of your lives, in ever increasing quantities, and not me. Of course it won't matter much as you get early onset alzheimers. Enjoy your staring at the sky without it meaning anything because your brain is fried with good old Al. The greatest health disaster and cover up in history, the toxicity of aluminum, no one dares touch it. It's verboten. Even the toxic sludge they fluoridate our water with (or did I just imagine it was rat poison due to the label?) comes from Alcoa. That was the whole point, to get rid of the toxic waste. And you probably still think it makes your teeth stronger and keeps kids from getting cavities.
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So we're all being targeted by aluminium?
I'm not mocking you or anything... but what about human nature? Do you really think people are that evil? I have become pretty worked up about shit on the internet, and then I just go out to the local mall and it's all good, y'know... the neighbourhood is flourishing...
And I for one know we are divine beings, learning throughout but largely unaffected by this life, yet the shit-stirrers will pay. The universe will make them pay, in distant dimensions, where they are from.
We matter, we count. The universe is a strange divine entity, and we are its children. But it sets the agenda. Who knows what strange tortures await the elite who own the West.
Personally I am not worried about anything except enjoying this life and staying within the bounds of my nature.
"God wills it!"
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: circastes]
#22508016 - 11/11/15 05:16 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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We have to find out what the ones in power want and don't want. WHO are the power-mongers? The ones with half the Earth's wealth, and having the power to take away what little money you have and put you in a little cell. Them!
What do they want? They are control-freaks, and this is why you cannot go and pick natural vegetation such as magic mushrooms without threat of imprisonment, and/or heavy fines. So they don't want us having access to being able to change our consciousness freely, in an ecstatic way. Thought they seem to have no problem with pushing the drug alcohol and caffeine and speed/ritalin and all the addictive psychiatric drugs So it is all about controlling our consciousness. Feel sad? More often than not you go for help and you are classed as being 'depressed' and thus 'mentally ill' with a 'chemical imbalance' and in need of their drugs which they make BILLIONS of money profit from. So to see through all of this is to see what they want and do not want
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Jokeshopbeard said: I'm surprised anyone could even suggest that what we do here might be used to change the world in some way. It just seems a completely bizarre suggestion to me. Like suggesting that if we all fart at the same time we might be able to cause a hurricane somewhere.
I'm here to change myself. To change the way I see the world and think about it all. And that I most certainly have done in my years here, and in doing so, I have improved my life ten-fold.
But I'm under no illusion about my ability to affect this world. I mean really, what are a bunch of forward thinking druggies gonna stand a chance at changing other than ourselves?
He's younger than you, he still has hopes, dreams, and aspirations for a better world. I once did too, before I realized all I could do was work on my own self, my Hridayam.
Incidentally, my little locus of the world has gotten better in meaningful ways to me- legal recreational cannabis, gay marriage, death with dignity laws, infinitely more people with health insurance. If people didn't have the initiative to make this shit happen here, it wouldn't have, which isn't to say we still don't have fuck tons of problems.
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: CosmicJoke]
#22508710 - 11/11/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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CosmicJoke said: I realized all I could do was work on my own self, my Hridayam.
That's exactly right.
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: hTx]
#22509439 - 11/11/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Create non-profit businesses that benevolently challenge for-profit businesses using a business model that pays people equally (or close to it) from owner to janitor. This tax-advantaged system, if done truly benevolently, will also attract donations and a following which will allow for rapid growth, and due to dramatic reductions in overhead, and allow for prices that will disrupt the market for profit seeking companies in the same sectors. Suggestions include: grocery stores, contracting, restaurants, car repair/sales (donated vehicles), prisons, insurance, and virtually anything else you can dream up.
This is how we take the country out of the hands of the rich and return it to the hands of the people, by beating them at their own game, and stomping out greed by turning it into waste.
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: circastes]
#22510119 - 11/11/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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circastes said: So we're all being targeted by aluminium?
I'm not mocking you or anything... but what about human nature? Do you really think people are that evil? I have become pretty worked up about shit on the internet, and then I just go out to the local mall and it's all good, y'know... the neighbourhood is flourishing...
And I for one know we are divine beings, learning throughout but largely unaffected by this life, yet the shit-stirrers will pay. The universe will make them pay, in distant dimensions, where they are from.
We matter, we count. The universe is a strange divine entity, and we are its children. But it sets the agenda. Who knows what strange tortures await the elite who own the West.
Personally I am not worried about anything except enjoying this life and staying within the bounds of my nature.
"God wills it!"
No offense, but the fluoride in the water is working for you. Remember 6-8 glasses a day!
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If there is an international conspiracy to dumb down the population with fluoride in drinking water, why do some municipalities not add fluoride to their tap water? Are they outside of the banksters control? The city I was in while doing my undergrad had a referendum to stop fluoridating the drinking water and the referendum passed.
In Ontario, 76% of municipalities fluorinate their water.
https://regenes.is/mf-ontario/
This past summer I was getting water from a artesian well near Hamilton where I was working. Really clean water besides an elevated sodium content. Might start doing that again, but have no reason to go down to that area now and is a 45 min drive.
Edited by White Beard (11/12/15 11:46 AM)
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: CosmicJoke]
#22513664 - 11/12/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Heh, i do understand this to be a tall order, however, we have to start somewhere.
Perhaps we can inspire some truly great dialogue..i imagine much of philosophy has been just that, a couple of thinkers whom got together and discussed life.
I think the possibility that some of our conversations here, given direction, could really snowball into something meaningful. the thread on violence is beginning to spawn some interesting and practical ideas... The butterfly effect is real, what we do or say here could and likely does lead to some change given a long enough time-line.
I am unsure if anyone else has noticed this or not, but occasionally i read about concepts which were developed or explained on the shroomery months before reading the same concept explained in some science or philosophy article.
I am perhaps challenging the status quo here, and i encourage each of you to do the same.
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: hTx]
#22514427 - 11/12/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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hTx said: I am perhaps challenging the status quo here, and i encourage each of you to do the same.
Man I live to challenge the status quo. However I am still unsure how you foresee our work here making a noticeable impact in the world outside of our selves.
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circastes said: So we're all being targeted by aluminium?
I'm not mocking you or anything... but what about human nature? Do you really think people are that evil? I have become pretty worked up about shit on the internet, and then I just go out to the local mall and it's all good, y'know... the neighbourhood is flourishing...
And I for one know we are divine beings, learning throughout but largely unaffected by this life, yet the shit-stirrers will pay. The universe will make them pay, in distant dimensions, where they are from.
We matter, we count. The universe is a strange divine entity, and we are its children. But it sets the agenda. Who knows what strange tortures await the elite who own the West.
Personally I am not worried about anything except enjoying this life and staying within the bounds of my nature.
"God wills it!"
No offense, but the fluoride in the water is working for you. Remember 6-8 glasses a day!
At least I got fresh breath, muvva bitch!
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#22514585 - 11/12/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Actually I don't so yeah you win on all accounts.
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: circastes]
#22514838 - 11/12/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't believe the aluminum thing or floride water thing is a conspiracy, any more than big tobacco was or is. Sure they are poison, but like tobacco, it's not some mysterious plot - it's simply amazing greed, shortsightedness, & total lack of morals. I would guess that generally, on 'a day to day level' corruption runs the world, more than the devious intelligence of guys like Dick Chenny, Berrnie Madoff ... The other human failings also factor in: attachment to power, prejudice, cronyism ... you know the usual suspects ...
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: hTx]
#22515237 - 11/12/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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. . . these topics and discussions, while interesting, literally never resolve any actual problem we as a people are currently facing.
It will always be a challenge (maybe an impossibility) to form a consensus on any topic. But this can be a forum where we try to open our minds to new ideas and concepts that are contrary to our beliefs. I think that's the best we can do. It's extremely difficult to debate with text-only communication because human empathy is engaged via face to face interaction. The ego is easily offended using text-only communication, which is why it can be incredibly volatile. I get furious at posts that if I was speaking with the person face to face, those words would not make me mad.
I believe human interaction has enormous power. A warm "hello" can ripple though many people. We have no idea the power of a smile or a friendly greeting, and how it's transmitted through other people. Haven't we all had a nice moment or interaction with someone that changed our entire day, and therefore effected all the people we came in contact with? Although a bit more difficult, online interaction has the power to do the same.
I think there are important subjects that don't get discussed enough. For example . . .
What is the root cause of anger and violence?
What factors contribute to romantic obsession?
How has feminism negatively effected man / woman relationships?
What is the true role of caffeine in our lives? It's much more than just "energy"
That's my 2 cents folks. OK, more like a quarter . . .
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
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RJ Tubs 202 said: I think there are important subjects that don't get discussed enough. For example . . .
What is the root cause of anger and violence?
What factors contribute to romantic obsession?
How has feminism negatively effected man / woman relationships?
What is the true role of caffeine in our lives? It's much more than just "energy"
Man break em out, they sound like great topics!!
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#22515455 - 11/12/15 07:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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The massive amount of cultivation knowledge stored and provided here is already making the world a better place. We don't know how large an impact it could potentially have, this is our contribution.
My mother in law got caught up in that floride conspiracy theory and stopped consuming anything with it. Her teeth have nearly all rotted out within only a few years and she now wears dentures.
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: hTx]
#22516814 - 11/13/15 05:27 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I dont know. A lot of the discussion here is quite good but to much conspiracy theories derail them. Also I see a lot of blaming problems of our society on a spiritual/mindfulness problem. When in reality its a problem of capitalism. There is a startling lack of leftist theory here that could explain a lot of things people struggle with.
We criticize globalization, dehumanization, destruction of real culture and so on but never realise that all these problems where allready thought about and answers found that dont relay on spirituality but real change. We need to turn back to the collectives, and in combination socialism. Psychedelic thought needs to unify with leftist thought again.
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: RennHuhn]
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RennHuhn said: I dont know. A lot of the discussion here is quite good but to much conspiracy theories derail them. Also I see a lot of blaming problems of our society on a spiritual/mindfulness problem. When in reality its a problem of capitalism. There is a startling lack of leftist theory here that could explain a lot of things people struggle with.
We criticize globalization, dehumanization, destruction of real culture and so on but never realise that all these problems where allready thought about and answers found that dont relay on spirituality but real change. We need to turn back to the collectives, and in combination socialism. Psychedelic thought needs to unify with leftist thought again.
define then what you even mean by 'spirituality'?
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: zzripz]
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Spirituality is a big overarching term where everyone has different definitions. My point is that a lot of discussion here is about philosophical problems(or personal philosophic beliefs with a touch of religion, which is spirituality in my opinion) and not what materialistic conditions cause them.
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: RennHuhn]
#22521609 - 11/14/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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For me, spirituality a practice and path to seeing and experiencing life as it really is.
As humans, we habitually view reality as the thoughts going through our heads.
Our thoughts are not reality any more than our dreams.
By living in our head, we live in a trance of thinking.
We usually forget to stop and smell the roses.
For me, spirituality is awakening from this trance of thinking
. . . of judging, wanting, assessing, regretting, anticipating, and evaluating
I try to not take my thoughts and feelings too seriously. It's quite a challenge
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
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hTx said:
. . . these topics and discussions, while interesting, literally never resolve any actual problem we as a people are currently facing.
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I think there are important subjects that don't get discussed enough. For example . . .
What is the root cause of anger and violence?
What factors contribute to romantic obsession?
How has feminism negatively effected man / woman relationships?
What is the true role of caffeine in our lives? It's much more than just "energy"
That's my 2 cents folks. OK, more like a quarter . . .
Nice, some factors identified, we're half-way there folks.
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: hTx]
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Also, we can obviously see that religion itself (or rather the leaders manipulating scriptures, texts, interpretations thereof ironically resulting in huge numbers of followers willing to disobey one of the most spiritual laws "commandments" present in nearly every 'divine' text, "thou shalt not kill." ) is heavily involved in perhaps every war in recorded history.
A surprising statistic I've found states that:
conflicts (war) world-wide which resulted in the deaths of over 1000 people, have been present in 92% of all recorded history.
I'm actually a bit surprised that the percentage relative to peace is so high. However...given the possibility, and...
the fact that we many may a attest or rather speculate that 92% of any given month (given ones not participating in war or is like, a violent criminal or something, oh avoid and the news.), given the individual, has the potential to be relatively peaceful..the state of peace is something most humans evidently if not obviously prefer. This gives me hope. earlier there was a post inquiring the destiny of mankind or perhaps the purposelessness of it..I believe we are evolving out of our lesser animal impulses..such as violence, lying, manipulation, prejudice..albeit slowly. This is our destiny. The ubermensch imagined by Nietzsche;
I see a lot of potential though, there is a buddhist koan essentially saying Buddhas grow from the manure of humanity..and as humans follow herd mentality..future 'Buddhas', the ones tired of how backwards we are, the artists giving meaningful verses or relevant poems or art are growing and becoming famous (oh trust me theres a few) at an accelerating rate (from all that 'manure'!) and, imo, will help lead humanity into a more efficient, progressive, and understanding one.
The greater the fucked-up-ness, the greater the positive response.
This gives me hope in a future with minimal violence, granted adequate leadership, sacrifice, dedication, integrity, awakening (I know the anti-conspiracy haters upon reading that are insta- , however, there are tons of literature in reference to the phenomena of serious mental awakening, lets call it an epiphany, and it does actually occur (empirically) this is the awakening I am speaking of ) and action.
its equally if not significantly more so that possible, that we could undergo some sort of nucleur holocaust, that the future is going to be filled with horrible atrocities...genocide, mass killing, war, senseless and preventable killings/abuse, discrimination...really the time for peace and the possibilities thereof seem as important as ever. We must start somewhere.
Its that very thought that "they pay people to sit in a room to find and fix these problems". seems like a pretty weak cop-out, given all the problems we face today, the massive mistrust of the government, and the fact that it all seems to be getting worse should obviously lead us to conclude that they have failed, and we as a people have the power to be the ones to really change things, just as our forefathers before us.
-------------------- zen by age ten times six hundred lifetimes Light up the darkness.
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