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RJ Tubs 202



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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: hTx]
#22515237 - 11/12/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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. . . these topics and discussions, while interesting, literally never resolve any actual problem we as a people are currently facing.
It will always be a challenge (maybe an impossibility) to form a consensus on any topic. But this can be a forum where we try to open our minds to new ideas and concepts that are contrary to our beliefs. I think that's the best we can do. It's extremely difficult to debate with text-only communication because human empathy is engaged via face to face interaction. The ego is easily offended using text-only communication, which is why it can be incredibly volatile. I get furious at posts that if I was speaking with the person face to face, those words would not make me mad.
I believe human interaction has enormous power. A warm "hello" can ripple though many people. We have no idea the power of a smile or a friendly greeting, and how it's transmitted through other people. Haven't we all had a nice moment or interaction with someone that changed our entire day, and therefore effected all the people we came in contact with? Although a bit more difficult, online interaction has the power to do the same.
I think there are important subjects that don't get discussed enough. For example . . .
What is the root cause of anger and violence?
What factors contribute to romantic obsession?
How has feminism negatively effected man / woman relationships?
What is the true role of caffeine in our lives? It's much more than just "energy"
That's my 2 cents folks. OK, more like a quarter . . .
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#22515447 - 11/12/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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RJ Tubs 202 said: I think there are important subjects that don't get discussed enough. For example . . .
What is the root cause of anger and violence?
What factors contribute to romantic obsession?
How has feminism negatively effected man / woman relationships?
What is the true role of caffeine in our lives? It's much more than just "energy"
Man break em out, they sound like great topics!!
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#22515455 - 11/12/15 07:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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The massive amount of cultivation knowledge stored and provided here is already making the world a better place. We don't know how large an impact it could potentially have, this is our contribution.
My mother in law got caught up in that floride conspiracy theory and stopped consuming anything with it. Her teeth have nearly all rotted out within only a few years and she now wears dentures.
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: hTx]
#22516814 - 11/13/15 05:27 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I dont know. A lot of the discussion here is quite good but to much conspiracy theories derail them. Also I see a lot of blaming problems of our society on a spiritual/mindfulness problem. When in reality its a problem of capitalism. There is a startling lack of leftist theory here that could explain a lot of things people struggle with.
We criticize globalization, dehumanization, destruction of real culture and so on but never realise that all these problems where allready thought about and answers found that dont relay on spirituality but real change. We need to turn back to the collectives, and in combination socialism. Psychedelic thought needs to unify with leftist thought again.
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: RennHuhn]
#22517039 - 11/13/15 07:51 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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RennHuhn said: I dont know. A lot of the discussion here is quite good but to much conspiracy theories derail them. Also I see a lot of blaming problems of our society on a spiritual/mindfulness problem. When in reality its a problem of capitalism. There is a startling lack of leftist theory here that could explain a lot of things people struggle with.
We criticize globalization, dehumanization, destruction of real culture and so on but never realise that all these problems where allready thought about and answers found that dont relay on spirituality but real change. We need to turn back to the collectives, and in combination socialism. Psychedelic thought needs to unify with leftist thought again.
define then what you even mean by 'spirituality'?
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: zzripz]
#22517288 - 11/13/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Spirituality is a big overarching term where everyone has different definitions. My point is that a lot of discussion here is about philosophical problems(or personal philosophic beliefs with a touch of religion, which is spirituality in my opinion) and not what materialistic conditions cause them.
Edited by RennHuhn (11/13/15 09:28 AM)
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RJ Tubs 202



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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: RennHuhn]
#22521609 - 11/14/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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For me, spirituality a practice and path to seeing and experiencing life as it really is.
As humans, we habitually view reality as the thoughts going through our heads.
Our thoughts are not reality any more than our dreams.
By living in our head, we live in a trance of thinking.
We usually forget to stop and smell the roses.
For me, spirituality is awakening from this trance of thinking
. . . of judging, wanting, assessing, regretting, anticipating, and evaluating
I try to not take my thoughts and feelings too seriously. It's quite a challenge
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#22525678 - 11/14/15 11:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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hTx said:
. . . these topics and discussions, while interesting, literally never resolve any actual problem we as a people are currently facing.
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I think there are important subjects that don't get discussed enough. For example . . .
What is the root cause of anger and violence?
What factors contribute to romantic obsession?
How has feminism negatively effected man / woman relationships?
What is the true role of caffeine in our lives? It's much more than just "energy"
That's my 2 cents folks. OK, more like a quarter . . .
Nice, some factors identified, we're half-way there folks.
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Re: The Shroomery Think-Tank [Re: hTx]
#22525903 - 11/15/15 12:44 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Also, we can obviously see that religion itself (or rather the leaders manipulating scriptures, texts, interpretations thereof ironically resulting in huge numbers of followers willing to disobey one of the most spiritual laws "commandments" present in nearly every 'divine' text, "thou shalt not kill." ) is heavily involved in perhaps every war in recorded history.
A surprising statistic I've found states that:
conflicts (war) world-wide which resulted in the deaths of over 1000 people, have been present in 92% of all recorded history.
I'm actually a bit surprised that the percentage relative to peace is so high. However...given the possibility, and...
the fact that we many may a attest or rather speculate that 92% of any given month (given ones not participating in war or is like, a violent criminal or something, oh avoid and the news.), given the individual, has the potential to be relatively peaceful..the state of peace is something most humans evidently if not obviously prefer. This gives me hope. earlier there was a post inquiring the destiny of mankind or perhaps the purposelessness of it..I believe we are evolving out of our lesser animal impulses..such as violence, lying, manipulation, prejudice..albeit slowly. This is our destiny. The ubermensch imagined by Nietzsche;
I see a lot of potential though, there is a buddhist koan essentially saying Buddhas grow from the manure of humanity..and as humans follow herd mentality..future 'Buddhas', the ones tired of how backwards we are, the artists giving meaningful verses or relevant poems or art are growing and becoming famous (oh trust me theres a few) at an accelerating rate (from all that 'manure'!) and, imo, will help lead humanity into a more efficient, progressive, and understanding one.
The greater the fucked-up-ness, the greater the positive response.
This gives me hope in a future with minimal violence, granted adequate leadership, sacrifice, dedication, integrity, awakening (I know the anti-conspiracy haters upon reading that are insta- , however, there are tons of literature in reference to the phenomena of serious mental awakening, lets call it an epiphany, and it does actually occur (empirically) this is the awakening I am speaking of ) and action.
its equally if not significantly more so that possible, that we could undergo some sort of nucleur holocaust, that the future is going to be filled with horrible atrocities...genocide, mass killing, war, senseless and preventable killings/abuse, discrimination...really the time for peace and the possibilities thereof seem as important as ever. We must start somewhere.
Its that very thought that "they pay people to sit in a room to find and fix these problems". seems like a pretty weak cop-out, given all the problems we face today, the massive mistrust of the government, and the fact that it all seems to be getting worse should obviously lead us to conclude that they have failed, and we as a people have the power to be the ones to really change things, just as our forefathers before us.
-------------------- zen by age ten times six hundred lifetimes Light up the darkness.
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