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Big Bear
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: taGyo]
#22508483 - 11/11/15 09:10 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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the_r3dz
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: Kalistis]
#22508556 - 11/11/15 09:35 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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These jars were the last of my big bag of WBS, and I'll never buy another. They are nice for colonization times and good for g2g into oats, but I absolutely hate the prep. They make a big mess all over my kitchen, I used to throw out the floaters and sunflower seeds, and I never enjoyed the prep. I've made one batch of oats and I'll never go back. Maybe the occassional master.
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MudaFuka
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: taGyo]
#22508759 - 11/11/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dehydrator is full as fuck, you guys think these guys will lose potency in 12-24 hrs in teh fridge?

Good job buddy.
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: Darkhome]
#22509702 - 11/11/15 02:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Darkhome said: I'm about to give oats a try...been saying it forever, time to take the plunge...
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guyute22
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: NDStepp84]
#22509781 - 11/11/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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NDStepp84 said: Thanks, no soak boiled around 40 min until a few burst, loaded when they only left a barely visible small spot on a paper towel. PC'd 2 hours @ 17 psi. They really swelled in the PC, I shook them after I got them out and they almost filled the jar up, lol. First time with oats, so far so good.
Def will keep you posted on the tub, MS agar/3 transfers > grain
great thread!
do you guys add anything to boil water? gypsum or coffee or anything?
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NDStepp84
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: guyute22]
#22509932 - 11/11/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, I added a tablespoon or so of gypsum, about a cup or so of coffee. I would have skipped the coffee, but their was some in the pot next to me so I poured some in. I covered the oats with about 3 to 4 inches of water above the oats. Took a while to get to a good simmer/ boil before I started counting.
I pretty much followed this prep I may try inoc's prep next. With my work schedule sometimes I don't know what I am doing one day to the next, so I love the option of soaking or not.
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Edited by NDStepp84 (11/11/15 03:55 PM)
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Kalistis


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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: NDStepp84]
#22510028 - 11/11/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I use gypsum too. About a pinch per quart.
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GreenHornThumb
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: NDStepp84]
#22510063 - 11/11/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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NDStepp84 said: Yes, I added a tablespoon or so of gypsum, about a cup or so of coffee. I would have skipped the coffee, but their was some in the pot next to me so I poured some in. I covered the oats with about 3 to 4 inches of water above the oats. Took a while to get to a good simmer/ boil before I started counting.
I pretty much followed this prep I may try inoc's prep next. With my work schedule sometimes I don't know what I am doing one day to the next, so I love the option of soaking or not.
I haven't had any issues with oats so far. I been using gypsum when boiling. Will coffee add any other benefits if combined with it?
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taGyo
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: Big Bear]
#22510084 - 11/11/15 04:19 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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MudaFuka
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: guyute22]
#22510094 - 11/11/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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guyute22 said:
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NDStepp84 said: Thanks, no soak boiled around 40 min until a few burst, loaded when they only left a barely visible small spot on a paper towel. PC'd 2 hours @ 17 psi. They really swelled in the PC, I shook them after I got them out and they almost filled the jar up, lol. First time with oats, so far so good.
Def will keep you posted on the tub, MS agar/3 transfers > grain
great thread!
do you guys add anything to boil water? gypsum or coffee or anything?
I add a small amount of fresh unused coffee grounds, gypsum and wheat bran.
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taGyo
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: GreenHornThumb] 1
#22510133 - 11/11/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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MudaFuka
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: taGyo]
#22510175 - 11/11/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't really know if coffee makes a big difference. I've always added coffee and gypsum to my spawn and mostly do it out of habit. It hasn't done me wrong. So I'm just going to keep doing what's always worked. Oh and I don't use CVG anymore. Just CG. Fuck verm. I grew for almoste a year before I ever used verm and my subs did just fine.
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taGyo
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: MudaFuka]
#22510182 - 11/11/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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 Having you here is gonna enlighten a lot of people Muda
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NDStepp84
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: taGyo]
#22510214 - 11/11/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's awesome Gyo! I've been wanting to experiment with some bran also.
Quick update on the tub day 4
 A bit of aerial myc, what's your guys opinion?
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GreenHornThumb
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: taGyo]
#22510219 - 11/11/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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So far only did cvg sub and jiffy mix case . Hasn't done me wrong at all. On my second flush and looking nice. I also did an uncased cvg and pins were bigger.
Uncased soda bottle

Second flush cvg cased with jiffy
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taGyo
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: NDStepp84]
#22510240 - 11/11/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think that's a good sign, means you're probably gonna have a great flush if you give it lots of FAE 
A little of my method, in the beginning I mist my tubs casing layer and get it a little wet, just wet enough that I can tell its soaked through well but not sopping. Then as the FAE blasts it promotes primordia as the casing layer drys. You can continue this all throughout growth but it's really the most beneficial while you're waiting to see pins.
Theory: Wild mushrooms pop up after rain because the surface humidity of their "casing" has risen and promoted pinning. In practice it seems to work well, that's how I coaxed so many pins out of those AA+ tubs.
I usually stop once I get the pinset I wanted or the pinset I'm gonna get no matter what 
@GreenHornThumb
Niiiiice 
You got plans for a mono there? Here's a little tip, you just learned something about that culture. Some cultures, and very few IMO, don't like casings. It's not so much the CULTURE as the genetic makeup of your specific variety you're working with. If you clone one and take it to a larger tub I'd be interested to see you try a cased vs uncased side-by-side.
I think the uncased would work better 
That or you're just learning and getting better and your mushrooms are reflecting that.
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NDStepp84
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: taGyo]
#22510314 - 11/11/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sounds great, I would rather give more FAE and compensate with misting also. I am not much of a fan of "dialing in a tub" and not misting, surface humidity and FAE ftw.
Looking good GHT!
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MudaFuka
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: NDStepp84]
#22510323 - 11/11/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I feel the same way. I've never been a fan of set and forget.
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taGyo
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: NDStepp84]
#22510343 - 11/11/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah I just take out my top holes halfway through fruiting and blast them, as long as you keep it humid and are not running a fan directly blowing they do just fine 
I'm always down in my mushroom room anyway since it doubles as the weed garden so one way or another I pop in and say hello.
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taGyo
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: taGyo]
#22510364 - 11/11/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I really like where this thread is headed,
Thanks for being a part of it guys
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