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MrSpadoodles
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: Kalistis]
#22621901 - 12/06/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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hmm. the monotub idea sounds convincing but is that the right way to go for a noob? would it be cheaper/more expensive? what are the benefits and drawbacks of a monotub versus BRF cakes that were dunked and rolled and put in a FC? what is a monotub even lol and what if a contaminant somehow slips in and takes hold during the fruiting stage? would that ruin the whole project? is that even possible? what if I did the cake setup and a cake would get contaminated? would all the cakes be ruined or just that one?
so many questions hah
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: MrSpadoodles]
#22621962 - 12/06/15 03:59 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was new to cultivation less than 4 months ago and started with bulk WBS quart jars spawned to monotubs. No. It's not challenging for a noob. If anything, it's pretty hard to fuck up. I don't know about cakes. Never done them but some people cheese grate them and mix to coir/verm to spawn. Basic principles of a monotub:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20307891
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20356759
You can make mini monos too.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21032606/fpart/1/vc/1
My first 2 tubs I didn't mist or fan. They weren't dialed in how I have them now but my yields were good for first monotubs. In theory, you should be able to set it and forget it. That's why I picked monotub over cakes and the SGFC. I do mist twice a day, but not because they need it. I figure if I'm opening my tub to look I might as well mist.
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MrSpadoodles
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: Kalistis]
#22621995 - 12/06/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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interesting. but I already digested all my information in these past weeks in regards to getting cakes so I should prob just stick to that since my syringe is arriving in like a week. I think I might do it for my second growth though. could I "reuse" cakes after the second-fourth flush by crumbling parts them and using them to fill up parts of new jars (most of which would be filled with fresh substrate) for colonization?
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: MrSpadoodles]
#22622010 - 12/06/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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no once a cake is fruiting let it fruit and die, it will just contam and or won't be worth your time or effort
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: cronicr]
#22622047 - 12/06/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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reuse them outside
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: blackdust]
#22622157 - 12/06/15 04:41 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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I didn't offer a monotub because you were saying you don't have a pressure cooker which isn't super necessary (As Cron will tell you) but I wouldn't run grains without it
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: taGyo]
#22623103 - 12/06/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah I'm just gonna stick to cakes for my first grow. gonna focus on sterilization and inoculation for now and once I'm colonizing the jars I'll figure out what FC to use
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: MrSpadoodles]
#22625126 - 12/07/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Had to trash the grow for security. Last grow ever.
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: phishphan2088]
#22625176 - 12/07/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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phishphan2088 said: Had to trash the grow for security. Last grow ever.
On a dark desert highway, cool wind in my hair Warm smell of colitas, rising up through the air Up ahead in the distance, I saw a shimmering light My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim I had to stop for the night There she stood in the doorway; I heard the mission bell And I was thinking to myself, "This could be Heaven or this could be Hell" Then she lit up a candle and she showed me the way There were voices down the corridor, I thought I heard them say...
Welcome to the Hotel California Such a lovely place (Such a lovely place) Such a lovely face Plenty of room at the Hotel California Any time of year (Any time of year) You can find it here
Her mind is Tiffany-twisted, she got the Mercedes bends She got a lot of pretty, pretty boys she calls friends How they dance in the courtyard, sweet summer sweat. Some dance to remember, some dance to forget
So I called up the Captain, "Please bring me my wine" He said, "We haven't had that spirit here since nineteen sixty nine" And still those voices are calling from far away, Wake you up in the middle of the night Just to hear them say...
Welcome to the Hotel California Such a lovely place (Such a lovely place) Such a lovely face They livin' it up at the Hotel California What a nice surprise (what a nice surprise) Bring your alibis
Mirrors on the ceiling, The pink champagne on ice And she said "We are all just prisoners here, of our own device" And in the master's chambers, They gathered for the feast They stab it with their steely knives, But they just can't kill the beast
Last thing I remember, I was Running for the door I had to find the passage back To the place I was before "Relax, " said the night man, "We are programmed to receive. You can check-out any time you like, But you can never leave! "
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: blackdust]
#22625571 - 12/07/15 12:31 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mirrors on the ceiling, The pink champagne on ice And she said "We are all just prisoners here, of our own device" And in the master's chambers, They gathered for the feast They stab it with their steely knives, But they just can't kill the beast
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: taGyo]
#22626192 - 12/07/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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you forgot the solo gyo best part of the song..
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: phishphan2088]
#22626660 - 12/07/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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phishphan2088 said: Had to trash the grow for security. Last grow ever.
Lol What happened?
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: JacobStorm]
#22627417 - 12/07/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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JacobStorm said:
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phishphan2088 said: Had to trash the grow for security. Last grow ever.
Lol What happened?
Seems like someone found out nd he had to scrap his shit in a hurry in his panoria of freight.
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: kushroom]
#22627600 - 12/07/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just wanted to stop b and say Hi.
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: JacobStorm]
#22627755 - 12/07/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hello all, I read all y'all post and now I wanna talk and show off. That's friday That's this morning
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: StJohnsRoom]
#22627784 - 12/07/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Welcome to the Shroomery StJohn, if you rebuild that fruiting chamber into a SGFC you will notice a big difference http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542#20195542
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: StJohnsRoom]
#22627790 - 12/07/15 09:03 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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looks like they're coming along well 
but I'm a noob so I wouldn't know
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: MrSpadoodles]
#22627935 - 12/07/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hi guys. I just finished up my first 50 pound bag of oats. I originally started with wild finch seed and still have about 35 pounds.... I think what is in the bucket now soaking will make up another 12 jars or so. It's amazing how quickly these oats go.
Tomorrow I am spawning some jars to coir/verm/gypsum and I am going to try not taping the holes from spawn as azur recommends in his thread. I also plan on casing with jiffy mix to get ready for my PE plates that are nearly ready for oats.
Question: I ave 4 jars of GT from one clone culture, 2 jars of GT from another clone culture (originally had 2 more). Then I have 3 jars of Malabar from one clone culture (had 2 others that didn't perform well. Then 12 jars of Mazatepec from MS (10 of the 12 are completely colonized. 2 are a little behind).
How should I go about fruiting these? I don't typically put more than 5 jars of spawn per 66qt tub, so I am thinking 6 jars of GT in 1 tub is too much. I would like to see how one clone culture performs and was thinking of putting the 4 from the same culture in 1 tub. But what do I do with the other 2? Can I mix them with Malabar?
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: Kalistis]
#22628011 - 12/07/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanx NDStepp. I'm drilling more holes now, do I also drill the lid? It's a 27qt container with 6holes for now
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Re: Gyo's Better Grows (Community Grow-A-Long) [Re: Kalistis]
#22628118 - 12/07/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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StJohnsRoom said: Thanx NDStepp. I'm drilling more holes now, do I also drill the lid? It's a 27qt container with 6holes for now
Yes, all 6 sides top and bottom included, 1/4 " holes 2" apart in a grid pattern Quote:
Kalistis said: Hi guys. I just finished up my first 50 pound bag of oats. I originally started with wild finch seed and still have about 35 pounds.... I think what is in the bucket now soaking will make up another 12 jars or so. It's amazing how quickly these oats go.
Tomorrow I am spawning some jars to coir/verm/gypsum and I am going to try not taping the holes from spawn as azur recommends in his thread. I also plan on casing with jiffy mix to get ready for my PE plates that are nearly ready for oats.
Question: I ave 4 jars of GT from one clone culture, 2 jars of GT from another clone culture (originally had 2 more). Then I have 3 jars of Malabar from one clone culture (had 2 others that didn't perform well. Then 12 jars of Mazatepec from MS (10 of the 12 are completely colonized. 2 are a little behind).
How should I go about fruiting these? I don't typically put more than 5 jars of spawn per 66qt tub, so I am thinking 6 jars of GT in 1 tub is too much. I would like to see how one clone culture performs and was thinking of putting the 4 from the same culture in 1 tub. But what do I do with the other 2? Can I mix them with Malabar?
The 66 quart tub I got going now has 7 quarts of spawn, You could do a mini mono with those 2 quarts, wouldn't hurt to mix them either.
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Links and teks ND's grow log and discussion Plant thread
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