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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22504979 - 11/10/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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pretending to believe those things must make you feel very safe.




I'm not pretending.  Perhaps you would like to refute the accuracy of any one of them.




if you really believed any of what you said you wouldn't be participating in these conversations.


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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: Ellis Dee] * 3
    #22504997 - 11/10/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

It's been going on for a while. I remember in the early 90's, I took an anthropology class (which was taught by a well-regarded Forensic Anthropologist) who got in a little bit of shit over simply explaining how to tell the race of skeletons. It's pure bullshit, I tell ya.


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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: Le_Canard] * 3
    #22505063 - 11/10/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

they have no leaders. they are shown tv shows to make them into pussies and then they hit sexual maturity and have no way to understand anything about looking out for yourself and being an adult. they are extracted for money.... list goes on. kids are abused and manipulated. Over time this culture will become more and more pussy until it becomes irrelevant


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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases *DELETED* [Re: eehoo] * 2
    #22505110 - 11/10/15 01:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Kids were basket cases in the 90's and definitely the 80's. I'm a 90s kid and I remember getting into all sorts of trouble just because. Lucky I never broke my neck or worse.


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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22505131 - 11/10/15 01:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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what progress have we made? is it that we now allow those that dont work but
instead victimize others into national heroes? where instead of condemning the
increasingly violent acts of criminals we condemn the actions of the police and
demand that those criminals are victims




okay, so here you're claiming that my premise that we haven't had any social progress is false. so here i'm going to point out to you that the civil rights movements for minorities and women have both given rise to laws that have made things better for those groups. you also seem to be conflating the issue of police brutality with the issue we're discussing, which is beside the point, so i'm just going to ignore those irrelevant claims.


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so drug and alcohol abuse, unhealthy lifestyes such as eating fast food or maybe
it's the PC culture that's popped up in the last 30 years that's killing off the
middle aged white people, they're committing suicide because they cant handle
what this country has become... guess what... who gives a fuck, people die




here, since you're making a claim that requires demonstration of proof, the burden to provide that proof falls on you, the maker of that claim. can you truthfully demonstrate how pc culture killing white middle aged males?

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so you're suggesting that the youth are murdering the middle aged white people?




and here is a strawman. and it's not even a very good one. i mean really, how on earth would you take that away from any of what i said? i said the state of society is such that the conditions are giving rise to the despair that is likely fueling what's happening with white middle aged males. moreover, i said that those conditions are symptoms of a wider state of affairs that is causing everyone to become atomized and against each other. in no way did i indicate i thought the youth were causing the problem.

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how about you take a step back from your fantasies of being a victim and look at
why the youth of today is loathed by the older generation, you're trying to usher
in an era of non existent victimhood all because someone said something you found
offensive and because of that everyone else needs to suffer through your tantrum




and again here is another strawman as well as an ad hominem attack on me. again, i'm going to point out that i don't condone anyone's "tantrums". this will be the third time i've said this by the way.

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hahahah... yes, it is in fact the entitlement generation and it's middle aged leaders that's behind this... why exactly do you think the wages have stagnated?




wages have stagnated due to a variety of factors ranging from technological advances (per zappa - i do agree somewhat with that one claim) and economic policies, namely the ending of the bretton-woods system by the nixon administration in the early 70's and a key trade agreement - NAFTA - made in the late 90's by the first clinton administration. but there are other factors too, such as the reigning ideology of neoliberalism, which can be traced to the reaganites. neoliberalism seems to be a key component in the attitudes that fuel business leaders to justify imposing what is known as the third world model on workers here and abroad. it's just happening a lot slower over here than it is in other places.

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maybe you should tell that to your own generation and maybe take it to heart
yourself because if I recall correctly you also believe that hate speech should
be abolished, unless of course it bashes middle class conservative, white males
whom you would love to see attend sensitivity classes so they could become more
like you




well for starters, your underlying assumption that i'm a millenial is patently false. i was born in the late 70's. the rest of your claims are false as well. i've never said that i think hate speech should be abolished. i've never defended sensitivity training either. here is my direct quote from the thread i think you're referring to.

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it might be fair to say that this may not be the type of thing that colleges should be in the business of teaching. universities teach about ethics, but they don't teach how to act ethically. the expectation seems to be for ethical behavior to follow from knowing about various ethical problems. perhaps forcing students to think about identities "sensitively" is ramming a certain viewpoint down their throats, as well-intentioned as it might be. nevertheless, if you hate someone because of who they are (or rather, who you are), you're an immense dick, perfectly deserving of the consequences being an immense dick brings (i.e. people generally disliking you due to your dickishness). the students in question are clearly dicks, so i have trouble sympathizing with them even though the university may be overreaching with mandatory sensitivity classes.





if you're going to disagree with me pris, at least do it in an honest and mature way.


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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: millzy] * 1
    #22505155 - 11/10/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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millzy said:


pretending to believe those things must make you feel very safe.




I'm not pretending.  Perhaps you would like to refute the accuracy of any one of them.




if you really believed any of what you said you wouldn't be participating in these conversations.




More empty vapid bullshit.  I provide tremendous educational value and a different viewpoint from what is usually presented here.  What is your excuse for being a lockstep boring repeater of the general tard cart liberal consensus?


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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #22505163 - 11/10/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

i don't need an excuse for holding right opinions because my opinions are anchored in what seems to be objective truth. what's your excuse for being unable to politely discuss issues?


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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: zappaisgod] * 4
    #22505173 - 11/10/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The crazy cunt comes from the wealthy suburbs of Connecticut, how does she deal with of these horrible aspects of life?  :facepalm:

http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/09/meet-the-privileged-yale-student-who-shrieked-at-her-professor/


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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: millzy] * 1
    #22505178 - 11/10/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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i don't need an excuse for holding right opinions because my opinions are anchored in what seems to be objective truth. what's your excuse for being unable to politely discuss issues?




Your opinions are wrong and benighted and anchored in fairy dust.  They are also harmful if taken seriously by more than a minor cohort of ineffectual wankers.


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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #22505188 - 11/10/15 01:52 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

if my opinions are wrong, surely you can demonstrate why they are wrong. knock it out of the park old man. here's your big chance.


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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: millzy]
    #22505197 - 11/10/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Watch out, he's busting out the big vocabulary.


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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: millzy] * 2
    #22505201 - 11/10/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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millzy said:
i don't need an excuse for holding right opinions because my opinions are anchored in what seems to be objective truth. what's your excuse for being unable to politely discuss issues?




You compared me to the retards causing all of this nonsense, your firmly anchored in delusion.


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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: qman]
    #22505207 - 11/10/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

so demonstrate why i'm wrong. it shouldn't be that hard since you guys have all the answers.


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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: qman]
    #22505208 - 11/10/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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qman said:
The crazy cunt comes from the wealthy suburbs of Connecticut, how does she deal with of these horrible aspects of life?  :facepalm:

http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/09/meet-the-privileged-yale-student-who-shrieked-at-her-professor/



That is hilarious.

By the way a 760K house in Fairfield?  That is quite modest and an indication that the parents moved there for the schools.  It is very hard to find a house that cheap in Fairfield.


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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: millzy]
    #22505214 - 11/10/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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so demonstrate why i'm wrong. it shouldn't be that hard since you guys have all the answers.



I already did.


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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: qman]
    #22505227 - 11/10/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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So acting like a demanding intolerant bitch is justifiable because the world is so unfair and complicated?  I don't think so.

We know why they are screaming at people they disagree with, because it's been working lately!!!  If you don't like the president of your university because he's a white male, protest until he quits!!

These people are not as sophisticated as you make them out to be, they are highly uneducated low lives that like to bully others into doing what they want, so go ahead and rationalize this nonsense, I call it for what it is, PC intolerance.




i never said anyone's behavior was justifiable, just that it is understandable. there are good reasons for most people to be angry at the state of our society, and it doesn't require a high level of sophistication to see that. but demonizing people with dissenting views, i.e. labeling their behavior as "PC intolerance", is not the answer because it interferes with reaching agreements on issues that we all seem to share common ground on. in doing what you're doing right now, you're no better than they are.
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"that it is understandable"

Screaming about Halloween costumes is understandable?  I don't think so.

"are good reasons for people to be angry at the state of society today"

Really?  Going to Yale must be so frustrating today, how do they manage?

"labeling their behavior as "PC intolerance" is not the answer"

Yes it is, if they resort to screaming and protesting to get their way, I'm going to call them out on it.

"you're no better than they are"

:lolwut:  Really?  Calling out their extreme intolerant behavior makes me the same as those retards, I don't think so. :lol:  You really don't have a clue my friend.  I don't bullying people I disagree with, I don't threaten them with violence, I don't blame them for their very existence (white males).

You're as bad as they are, don't ever compare them to me.




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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22505234 - 11/10/15 02:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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so demonstrate why i'm wrong. it shouldn't be that hard since you guys have all the answers.



I already did.




i hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but strawmen and arguments made beside the point are unconvincing to most.


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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: millzy] * 2
    #22505279 - 11/10/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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so demonstrate why i'm wrong. it shouldn't be that hard since you guys have all the answers.



I already did.




i hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but strawmen and arguments made beside the point are unconvincing to most.



So are delusions.


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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: millzy] * 2
    #22505324 - 11/10/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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i don't need an excuse for holding right opinions because my opinions are anchored in what seems to be objective truth. what's your excuse for being unable to politely discuss issues?



What makes your opinions truth? As much as I don't agree with Zappa most  times I gotta agree with him on his points. For further reference see my sig. But most of all quit being a whiney misinformed baby.


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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: millzy]
    #22505338 - 11/10/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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