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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy] 1
#22504447 - 11/10/15 10:32 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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That chick in the video should be just shouting.."I wanna be a grown up and I'm not sure how yet....so,I'll just yell at you for having an open mind and look important while I'm doing it!"
Same bullshit with a kid that has high expectations for what they think will be described and understood as "a successful life".
You do see this behavior more and more, but I don't think I would go so far as calling it a trend. Just some misguided kids with their ideals in the wrong place. They failed to show the other frat house with the toga party planned.lol There will always be yang to go with the yin in life...trouble is, too many of us are guided by the screen in front of usand not out and about in real life as it unfolds.
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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: millzy] 5
#22504457 - 11/10/15 10:35 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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millzy said: if we were having a serious conversation about this topic - which, by the way, i don't think we are in the least - we would do well to parse out what kids are actually "whining" about. even though we have made progress on certain issues, we still live in a society in which inequality persists in myriad ways for myriad people, including middle aged white males without a college education (or less), whose mortality rates have risen over twenty percent since 1999 for reasons that nobody seems to agree on other than that shit is pretty fucked up right now. if we were to take a step back from our long held positions and tired, empty rhetoric, we may see that at the core of all this "whining" are valid grievances against a society that hates its youth.
it's not that i endorse these radicalized ideologies. but i certainly understand what's behind them. and none of it follows from participation trophies, laziness or "entitlement". our kids are about to have some real problems on their hands e.g. income inequality via wage stagnation, an utterly broken democracy, an impending environmental crisis, a looming and possibly dramatic escalation of our wars etc. i can see why anyone would look at the way things are now and want to throw themselves down the rabbit hole of feminism, anti-feminism, hyper-religiosity, or extreme left or right wing politics. it's all too much. and that's just how those in power want it: an atomized society allows for all of the aforementioned problems to exist.
so what i propose is trying to learn from people we disagree with. that's the approach i always at least try to take. even if i disagree with someone, that doesn't mean i can't learn from them. and if we can learn from each other, perhaps we can find enough common ground to just let our disagreements stand. i don't require everyone to share my views of what the good life is. but sooner or later we are all going to have to come together on the inescapable realities of what's happening or we're just not going to have a world.
So acting like a demanding intolerant bitch is justifiable because the world is so unfair and complicated? I don't think so.
We know why they are screaming at people they disagree with, because it's been working lately!!! If you don't like the president of your university because he's a white male, protest until he quits!!
These people are not as sophisticated as you make them out to be, they are highly uneducated low lives that like to bully others into doing what they want, so go ahead and rationalize this nonsense, I call it for what it is, PC intolerance.
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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: Herbologist] 1
#22504462 - 11/10/15 10:36 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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wigglewak said: The Shroomery discussing this is like the pot calling the kettle black.
There is more then one time of user on these forums.
Not all of us are hippie sheep
So what kinda sheep are ya cause if you think about it almost nothing we can ever do as individuals is actually unique.
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#22504476 - 11/10/15 10:40 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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wigglewak said: The Shroomery discussing this is like the pot calling the kettle black.
There is more then one time of user on these forums.
Not all of us are hippie sheep
So what kinda sheep are ya cause if you think about it almost nothing we can ever do as individuals is actually unique.
The kind that doesn't like people who scream about intolerance and everyone being a racist, feel self entitled and have a warped view of how our country is supposed to be.
people like the one quoted in my sig.
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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: wigglewak]
#22504482 - 11/10/15 10:41 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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So, in order to be human, you have to be "actually unique"?
That's a stupid theory.
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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: millzy] 2
#22504531 - 11/10/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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millzy said: if we were having a serious conversation about this topic - which, by the way, i don't think we are in the least - we would do well to parse out what kids are actually "whining" about. even though we have made progress on certain issues, we still live in a society in which inequality persists in myriad ways for myriad people, including middle aged white males without a college education (or less), whose mortality rates have risen over twenty percent since 1999 for reasons that nobody seems to agree on other than that shit is pretty fucked up right now. if we were to take a step back from our long held positions and tired, empty rhetoric, we may see that at the core of all this "whining" are valid grievances against a society that hates its youth.
it's not that i endorse these radicalized ideologies. but i certainly understand what's behind them. and none of it follows from participation trophies, laziness or "entitlement". our kids are about to have some real problems on their hands e.g. income inequality via wage stagnation, an utterly broken democracy, an impending environmental crisis, a looming and possibly dramatic escalation of our wars etc. i can see why anyone would look at the way things are now and want to throw themselves down the rabbit hole of feminism, anti-feminism, hyper-religiosity, or extreme left or right wing politics. it's all too much. and that's just how those in power want it: an atomized society allows for all of the aforementioned problems to exist.
so what i propose is trying to learn from people we disagree with. that's the approach i always at least try to take. even if i disagree with someone, that doesn't mean i can't learn from them. and if we can learn from each other, perhaps we can find enough common ground to just let our disagreements stand. i don't require everyone to share my views of what the good life is. but sooner or later we are all going to have to come together on the inescapable realities of what's happening or we're just not going to have a world.
Middle aged white men without a college education have been vilified, marginalized, demonized and ridiculed for at least thirty years. Their jobs have been lost to either globalization or illegal immigration. And you still don't understand why they are losing their will to live? Tell me again who is stupid here.
There is no impending environmental crisis. The environment is better than it was when I was a kid. There is no anti-feminism. There isn't even an agreement on what feminism is. Me not buying an idiot an abortion is not anti-feminist. Religious extremism is almost entirely foreign and Muslim. We actually live in one of the least violent times in human history. Aside from the fact that we are not a democracy our form of representative government is more robust than ever thanks to Citizens United and the internet. Wage stagnation is occurring because of technological advances that have removed the necessity for human activity in production and wealth inequality is not per se a problem. If Bill Gates makes less you will not make more.
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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: Enlil] 2
#22504546 - 11/10/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enlil said: So, in order to be human, you have to be "actually unique"?
That's a stupid theory.
For someone with a legal background you don't strike me as very literate.
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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: Herbologist]
#22504560 - 11/10/15 11:02 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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wigglewak said: The Shroomery discussing this is like the pot calling the kettle black.
There is more then one time of user on these forums.
Not all of us are hippie sheep
So what kinda sheep are ya cause if you think about it almost nothing we can ever do as individuals is actually unique.
The kind that doesn't like people who scream about intolerance and everyone being a racist, feel self entitled and have a warped view of how our country is supposed to be.
people like the one quoted in my sig.
So you are screaming about the intolerance of the opposite of what you agree with? That kinda seems like the same thing.
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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: wigglewak] 2
#22504568 - 11/10/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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He's not screaming.
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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: wigglewak] 1
#22504571 - 11/10/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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No, Im being a normal person.
Are you always this "deep"
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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#22504573 - 11/10/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah im not screaming, if iwas IT WOULD PROBLY LOOK LIKE THIS
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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: Herbologist]
#22504580 - 11/10/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I guess articulately expressing your opinion on an online forum is the equivalent to screaming in the middle of the street with picket signs
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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#22504594 - 11/10/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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So acting like a demanding intolerant bitch is justifiable because the world is so unfair and complicated? I don't think so.
We know why they are screaming at people they disagree with, because it's been working lately!!! If you don't like the president of your university because he's a white male, protest until he quits!!
These people are not as sophisticated as you make them out to be, they are highly uneducated low lives that like to bully others into doing what they want, so go ahead and rationalize this nonsense, I call it for what it is, PC intolerance.
i never said anyone's behavior was justifiable, just that it is understandable. there are good reasons for most people to be angry at the state of our society, and it doesn't require a high level of sophistication to see that. but demonizing people with dissenting views, i.e. labeling their behavior as "PC intolerance", is not the answer because it interferes with reaching agreements on issues that we all seem to share common ground on. in doing what you're doing right now, you're no better than they are.
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Middle aged white men without a college education have been vilified, marginalized, demonized and ridiculed for at least thirty years. Their jobs have been lost to either globalization or illegal immigration. And you still don't understand why they are losing their will to live? Tell me again who is stupid here.
i agree and i understand. the disagreement i was referring to was over which factors played the biggest part of the rise in the mortality rate. that is all beside my point though, like the majority of your responses.
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There is no impending environmental crisis. The environment is better than it was when I was a kid. There is no anti-feminism. There isn't even an agreement on what feminism is. Me not buying an idiot an abortion is not anti-feminist. Religious extremism is almost entirely foreign and Muslim. We actually live in one of the least violent times in human history. Aside from the fact that we are not a democracy our form of representative government is more robust than ever thanks to Citizens United and the internet. Wage stagnation is occurring because of technological advances that have removed the necessity for human activity in production and wealth inequality is not per se a problem. If Bill Gates makes less you will not make more.
pretending to believe those things must make you feel very safe.
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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#22504607 - 11/10/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cause when I think of articulate expression of opinions I think about this place.
Killer smiley usage.
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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: millzy] 2
#22504620 - 11/10/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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pretending to believe those things must make you feel very safe.
I'm not pretending. Perhaps you would like to refute the accuracy of any one of them.
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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: wigglewak] 1
#22504633 - 11/10/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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wigglewak said: Cause when I think of articulate expression of opinions I think about this place.
Killer smiley usage.
Are you upset? Why do you care about my Smiley usage?
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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: millzy] 2
#22504640 - 11/10/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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millzy said: even though we have made progress on certain issues, we still live in a society in which inequality persists in myriad ways for myriad people
what progress have we made? is it that we now allow those that dont work but instead victimize others into national heroes? where instead of condemning the increasingly violent acts of criminals we condemn the actions of the police and demand that those criminals are victims
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including middle aged white males without a college education (or less), whose mortality rates have risen over twenty percent since 1999 for reasons that nobody seems to agree on other than that shit is pretty fucked up right now.
so drug and alcohol abuse, unhealthy lifestyes such as eating fast food or maybe it's the PC culture that's popped up in the last 30 years that's killing off the middle aged white people, they're committing suicide because they cant handle what this country has become... guess what... who gives a fuck, people die
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if we were to take a step back from our long held positions and tired, empty rhetoric, we may see that at the core of all this "whining" are valid grievances against a society that hates its youth.
so you're suggesting that the youth are murdering the middle aged white people?
how about you take a step back from your fantasies of being a victim and look at why the youth of today is loathed by the older generation, you're trying to usher in an era of non existent victimhood all because someone said something you found offensive and because of that everyone else needs to suffer through your tantrum
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it's not that i endorse these radicalized ideologies. but i certainly understand what's behind them. and none of it follows from participation trophies, laziness or "entitlement". our kids are about to have some real problems on their hands e.g. income inequality via wage stagnation, an utterly broken democracy, an impending environmental crisis,[//quote]
hahahah... yes, it is in fact the entitlement generation and it's middle aged leaders that's behind this... why exactly do you think the wages have stagnated?
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so what i propose is trying to learn from people we disagree with.
maybe you should tell that to your own generation and maybe take it to heart yourself because if I recall correctly you also believe that hate speech should be abolished, unless of course it bashes middle class conservative, white males whom you would love to see attend sensitivity classes so they could become more like you
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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#22504735 - 11/10/15 11:49 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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wigglewak said: Cause when I think of articulate expression of opinions I think about this place.
Killer smiley usage.
Are you upset? Why do you care about my Smiley usage?
Sorry I don't care about the smileys.
I just think that in every generation most people are not going to be worth talking to from a personal perspective. Most baby boomers, gen Xers, every one older younger or in between. It's not that everyone is stupid it's just that people have different interests and goals in life. When you do meet someone and they are cool to talk to I've noticed that it doesn't matter what age they are. A lot of awesome people are younger, a lot of "basket case types" are older. This whole sentiment of the youth are screwed up has been recycled throughout history and doesn't really advance real cultural development whatsoever.
Most of this PC rhetoric is the media pushing those stories to get people all excited and fighting among eachother. I put forth that people are generally the same except for the availability of technology which is so new that it is inevitable that we are going to have growing pains associated with the technological advancement.
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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: millzy] 1
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So acting like a demanding intolerant bitch is justifiable because the world is so unfair and complicated? I don't think so.
We know why they are screaming at people they disagree with, because it's been working lately!!! If you don't like the president of your university because he's a white male, protest until he quits!!
These people are not as sophisticated as you make them out to be, they are highly uneducated low lives that like to bully others into doing what they want, so go ahead and rationalize this nonsense, I call it for what it is, PC intolerance.
i never said anyone's behavior was justifiable, just that it is understandable. there are good reasons for most people to be angry at the state of our society, and it doesn't require a high level of sophistication to see that. but demonizing people with dissenting views, i.e. labeling their behavior as "PC intolerance", is not the answer because it interferes with reaching agreements on issues that we all seem to share common ground on. in doing what you're doing right now, you're no better than they are.
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"that it is understandable"
Screaming about Halloween costumes is understandable? I don't think so.
"are good reasons for people to be angry at the state of society today"
Really? Going to Yale must be so frustrating today, how do they manage?
"labeling their behavior as "PC intolerance" is not the answer"
Yes it is, if they resort to screaming and protesting to get their way, I'm going to call them out on it.
"you're no better than they are"
Really? Calling out their extreme intolerant behavior makes me the same as those retards, I don't think so. You really don't have a clue my friend. I don't bullying people I disagree with, I don't threaten them with violence, I don't blame them for their very existence (white males).
You're as bad as they are, don't ever compare them to me.
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Re: Why kids today are a bunch of basket cases [Re: koods]
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Malcolm_Xtasy said: Alright man, do you really try to spell like that on purpose or what? You type like a 12 year old girl that just discovered AIM
That's stupid, girls can't aim.
I know a few disgruntled wives that would beg to differ. Ooops you may be right they shot them in the wrong head.
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