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How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions.
    #22503402 - 11/10/15 02:41 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The title says it all. My opinion is that It will end with a large ground invasion(most likely russia), but I also think that it will still leave the region a mess because of the power vacuum it will create.


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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: Village-idiot] * 1
    #22503408 - 11/10/15 02:49 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

In the foreseeable future, it will not end. There will be power shifts, but no real solutions.


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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: Village-idiot]
    #22503431 - 11/10/15 03:05 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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The title says it all. My opinion is that It will end with a large ground invasion(most likely russia), but I also think that it will still leave the region a mess because of the power vacuum it will create.



My guess is world war. I think Turkey will eventually switch sides because of petrol interests in pipelines running through their territory. Turkey is also pissed the US is arming Kurds because that becomes a border security threat. The whole situation is so complicated there are issues similar to those with almost every central asian country involved.

At the end of the day... NATO operating right now is a essentially a US led task force fighting for control of resource rich areas. China and Russia can not allow these resource rich areas to fall under permanent control of the Anglo-Americans. It means war. :sad:


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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: Village-idiot]
    #22503436 - 11/10/15 03:06 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think any of this shit is really ever going to stop. I mean maybe it'll end in one particular country and inside their borders, but then others all around them are going to pop up and start the whole cycle over again.

I really can't read "the conflict in Syria" and say how and when it will end. It would be a technicality at best. From all I know and have read about the conflict in that region over the past decade, it's not really about any one country. This is just a long term event encompassing the entire region (if it hasn't happened to some country in that region yet, I wouldn't doubt they'd be next in line).

My honest opinion is this shit is only ever going to finally stop, when they some how all get united under a single leader/government that the populace is happy with or that at some point they're going to cross a line that forces many countries into a full on war with the region and bomb them so bad, it quells all future plans of continuing on this path. As neither are likely to happen any time remotely soon, I think this is just going to be an ongoing event for a very long time.


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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: Shroomslip] * 3
    #22503443 - 11/10/15 03:13 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I think the only true way to end it is with a full blown dictatorship and the elimination of any armed opposition. Reading about it the entire region has been a complete mess ever since the dissolution of the Ottoman empire and even then the sectarian tensions and general inability to adapt to modernity were already there and waiting to devolve into the current situation. Its a very complex situation and I don't think there's really any foreseeable conclusion to it in sight yet.


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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22503446 - 11/10/15 03:15 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Best case scenario is some kind of dysfunctional coalition government forms with lots of groups refusing to join and maintaining military action. This will probably be decades of mayhem.


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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22503471 - 11/10/15 03:33 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I think the only true way to end it is with a full blown dictatorship and the elimination of any armed opposition. Reading about it the entire region has been a complete mess ever since the dissolution of the Ottoman empire and even then the sectarian tensions and general inability to adapt to modernity were already there and waiting to devolve into the current situation. Its a very complex situation and I don't think there's really any foreseeable conclusion to it in sight yet.



:thumbup: You put it in better words than I managed to. That entire region is just a powder keg waiting to go off. Just a long list of power grabs, corruption and revolting/civil war.


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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: Shroomslip] * 1
    #22503476 - 11/10/15 03:36 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I think it would calm the situation down if one of us volunteered to blow up the Kaaba and the Temple Mount.


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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: EllisDSox]
    #22503483 - 11/10/15 03:42 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I think it would calm the situation down if one of us volunteered to blow up the Kaaba and the Temple Mount.



Great idea! You should hijack a Saudi flight and fly it straight into the kaaba! Give them a taste of their own medicine!

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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22503490 - 11/10/15 03:47 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

We're gonna need two planes. Since you stole my username, I think you owe me your life, but I'll let you choose which target you want to take out.

I'm also going to conquer Iran and turn it back into a Zoroastrian country.


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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: EllisDSox]
    #22503756 - 11/10/15 06:58 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

When the governments leave it alone.

I agree with koraks, it wont end. I heard theres been newspaper headlines of 'conflict in the middle east' since 1980's, so its been going on longer then I thought.


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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: Chakanooga]
    #22504309 - 11/10/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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When the governments leave it alone.

I agree with koraks, it wont end. I heard theres been newspaper headlines of 'conflict in the middle east' since 1980's, so its been going on longer then I thought.



It must be nice to be young. Israel fought most of the Arab countries in 1948. There was a decisive war between Israel and Egypt in 1967. And others too numerous to mention.


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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: Chakanooga] * 3
    #22504322 - 11/10/15 10:00 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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When the governments leave it alone.

I agree with koraks, it wont end. I heard theres been newspaper headlines of 'conflict in the middle east' since 1980's, so its been going on longer then I thought.




Child.  The place has been a mess for millenia.


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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22505658 - 11/10/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I never digged too deep into it, and I probably got my years wrong.

But yeah, sad stuff.


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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: Chakanooga]
    #22505848 - 11/10/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Assad will probably be back in power smothering his people ...but that would be better than some of those more extreme Islamic groups. There will never be peace as long as hate is around and, history has shown that ruling by force never lasts.

A better question would be....How many of these refugees will actually go back if peace is ever achieved.


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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #22505888 - 11/10/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22505940 - 11/10/15 04:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

mass enforcement of "health care", in the form of anti-psychotic drugs enforced world wide on the youth. Create a 1984 world


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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: eehoo]
    #22505946 - 11/10/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I gave hope when I started seeing syria bombings on youtube go viral and shit.

Thats just a fucked up place to be in, to see your neighbors blow up.


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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: Chakanooga]
    #22505994 - 11/10/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Peace won't be achieved in that area until it's ethnically cleansed into homogenity. Their culture is too polarized and set on orthodoxy. The primary reason for this descent into a full blown civil war was an inability to cope with an evolving financial landscape. Their population was almost entirely funded through a welfare system kept alive by oil revenues. Once that started to dry up and their state was unable to effectively evolve past it due to social orthodoxy and general resistence to adaptation the multiple groups and factions within Syrian society become disenfranchised and disillusioned with the current governments ability to provide for them. Normally this would entail an overthrow of the government but due to the Assad regimes extreme effectiveness at political suppresion the uprising was completely decentralized leading it to decay into this complete cluster fuck of competing factions. Due to the sheer number of them and their unwillingness to cooperate with one another there will be no single solution to the problem in the immediate or forseeable future. I completely expect this sitution to carry on for the next 5 if not 10 years.


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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: koraks]
    #22506080 - 11/10/15 04:56 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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In the foreseeable future, it will not end. There will be power shifts, but no real solutions.





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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22506391 - 11/10/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

When has a Middle Eastern problem ever ended?

It's the bombing range of the world. It's where foreign armies test their new arsenals.


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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: Patlal]
    #22506583 - 11/10/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

It's gonna stay a mess for decades. Like all the other Islamic shitholes, only more so


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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: Patlal]
    #22514319 - 11/12/15 02:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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When has a Middle Eastern problem ever ended?

It's the bombing range of the world. It's where foreign armies test their new arsenals.



Foreign armies are the least of their problems.  They are indigenously scum.


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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: Village-idiot]
    #22515046 - 11/12/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I think Islamic State is here to stay and will grow in size, strength and influence as a new nation.


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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22515421 - 11/12/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Patlal said:
When has a Middle Eastern problem ever ended?

It's the bombing range of the world. It's where foreign armies test their new arsenals.



Foreign armies are the least of their problems.  They are indigenously scum.



Foreign armies are the only problem. The people are pretty much like people anywhere. They're regular people who love their children and want them to have a better life than they had. The dictators are all in power because of foreign armies. And its foreign armies that wreck their countries and bring all the chaos. Just ask anyone in Syria.


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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22515547 - 11/12/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Patlal said:
When has a Middle Eastern problem ever ended?

It's the bombing range of the world. It's where foreign armies test their new arsenals.



Foreign armies are the least of their problems.  They are indigenously scum.



Foreign armies are the only problem. The people are pretty much like people anywhere. They're regular people who love their children and want them to have a better life than they had. The dictators are all in power because of foreign armies. And its foreign armies that wreck their countries and bring all the chaos. Just ask anyone in Syria.




False.  The place has been a shithole centuries before any foreign armies had anything to do with it.  Face it.  The people who live there are fucking loons.


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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: zappaisgod] * 2
    #22515606 - 11/12/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Ellis Dee said:
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zappaisgod said:
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Patlal said:
When has a Middle Eastern problem ever ended?

It's the bombing range of the world. It's where foreign armies test their new arsenals.



Foreign armies are the least of their problems.  They are indigenously scum.



Foreign armies are the only problem. The people are pretty much like people anywhere. They're regular people who love their children and want them to have a better life than they had. The dictators are all in power because of foreign armies. And its foreign armies that wreck their countries and bring all the chaos. Just ask anyone in Syria.




False.  The place has been a shithole centuries before any foreign armies had anything to do with it.  Face it.  The people who live there are fucking loons.




False. Its been fucked up since roughly the 1900s when the Ottoman Empire collapsed after 600 years of almost peace. Ever since then, both world wars multiplied the problems.


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Re: How will the conflict in Syria end? Opinions. [Re: Patlal]
    #22515628 - 11/12/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

It wont end until either:

A: Israel(with the help of other countries) wipes out muslims completely

B: Muslims(with the help of other countries) end the occupation of Palestine

C: It all gets reduced to uninhabitable glass

barring those conditions, i doubt the conflict can ever end


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