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spaceman101
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What exactly is eating my plants?
#22503108 - 11/09/15 11:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well I guess I need to add some pics.
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Ok so I'm now coming to grasp the fact that I have a Red Spider Mite infestation . Now I'm hoping you guys here can share some of what you've all learned from past experiences to help me get rid of them. Any Help will be greatly Appreciated but please do explain a lil so I can understand a bit better what I need to do.
This is the spray Garden Safe houseplant and garden insect killer I have to work with "I used some this morning by just heavily misting the entire plants". and here is the neem oil I sprayed on the plants yesterday trying not to hit the buds "Mixed at 2 fluid ounces to 1 gallon of water". Am I doing this right?
I'm gonna mist them with the other organic pesticide I bought today tomorrow "in hopes a double dose of organic chems will knock them out" around the time the lights are about to switch off.
Is there anything I'm missing? I'm used to being around Bud but I'm not as familiar with the care for these plants as I am with other plants because in the past I had ALOT of help with the Bud grows and no help at all on all my other different plant grows "back in those days"

Sweet Buds
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Re: What exactly is eating my plants? [Re: spaceman101] 1
#22503296 - 11/10/15 01:30 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pictures 1,2 and 3 show typical signs of Stippling. It's usually a sign that you've got spider mites. Read about it, see if it matches the symptoms. Get a magnifying glass,30x is best, and inspect both sides of the leaves.
Pictures 4,5 and 6 I'm not sure. Sometimes cannabis will drop lower leaves after they suck the colour out of them late in its life.
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Re: What exactly is eating my plants? [Re: karode13]
#22505033 - 11/10/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey karode thank you for letting me know even though it was the info I was really hoping not to get "I suspected it anyways"
I've got some neem oil and some of this Garden Safe stuff.
I sprayed the neem oil mixture yesterday "2 fluid oz's to 1 gallon of water" right before the lights went off trying not to hit the Buds and all but today I went in and sprayed the Garden Safe stuff on the entire plants.
Is there any first hand experience you could share with me to help me get these bastards under control as quickly as possible?
Or anyone else on here please let me know all you know and anything you think I might find useful.
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Re: What exactly is eating my plants? [Re: spaceman101]
#22505175 - 11/10/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Rosemary oil
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Quote:
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Good to see ya on here Mostly. Where might I get some of this Rosemary oil?
btw I Sprayed that neem oil in my grow room yesterday and now the entire room smells like burnt rubber
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Re: What exactly is eating my plants? [Re: spaceman101]
#22505272 - 11/10/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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You can use neem as a systemic too. Be careful, both the neem and the pyrethins can lead to burns and damage even when used at the start of lights out.
I get rosemary oil online, you might find it in aromatherapy sections of stores, 100% rosemary essential oil. It's not a one shot deal, but repeated applications aren't harmful to the plants, so a safe addition to the arsenal.
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Re: What exactly is eating my plants? [Re: spaceman101]
#22505282 - 11/10/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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spidermites (2) are the holy stuff you got going on
the crisp leaves (4) could be some lamp burns, maybe a hot spot/ all lamps are not created equal.
(5) (6) coupled with wet foot soggy roots ..
over watering them, let them dry up a little. MJ likes soil thats dry to wet, not soaking wet all the time ..
ive not grown in a while, just shooting the shit here, good luck..
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Re: What exactly is eating my plants? [Re: orison]
#22505375 - 11/10/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok I just updated the OP and have finally processed the fact that I'm dealing with Red Spider Mites "Which I think I knew just didn't want to admit it ".
I thank all of you guys for letting me know what's up and bringing me back to reality.
But now I need your help on what exactly I need to do to get rid of it and still have some good sweet tasting bud to harvest.
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Re: What exactly is eating my plants? [Re: spaceman101]
#22505684 - 11/10/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Id use flea foggers on spider mites, after death of mites, shower plants with clean water but do not soak roots u already have water damage from what I can see.
some people dont use pesticides,, Im not one those people ..
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Re: What exactly is eating my plants? [Re: orison]
#22505817 - 11/10/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm trying to grow this completely organic. So far so good until this mite shit. But if there's no info to help I'll just keep you all informed on what happens.
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Re: What exactly is eating my plants? [Re: spaceman101]
#22505944 - 11/10/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey brother, there's nothing more I hate than bugs eating my plants. I will and have defeated so far all pests I have encountered. I obsess and then overcome.
 I once eradicated a room full of 2spotted spider mites with a solution of water, neem and capsicum extract, cannabis may or may not have been in that room.
So first hand I can say it works, but I must stress to use caution, a solution too strong may be fatal to your plants. I suggest using it on a leaf, spray on the underside to evaluate
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Quote:
Mostly_Harmless said: Rosemary oil
!!!!!!!!!!!! I've fought off RSM off of salvia more than once with Rosemary Oil.
As for where to get it- I found mine locally at a Vitamin store on the shelf with all the other essential oils. Cost me about 6 bucks and I think that bottle will end up lasting me the rest of my life...
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Re: What exactly is eating my plants? [Re: cowsRmeat]
#22506407 - 11/10/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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cowsRmeat said:
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Mostly_Harmless said: Rosemary oil
!!!!!!!!!!!! I've fought off RSM off of salvia more than once with Rosemary Oil.
As for where to get it- I found mine locally at a Vitamin store on the shelf with all the other essential oils. Cost me about 6 bucks and I think that bottle will end up lasting me the rest of my life...
What was your process? Just mist and leave it to dry? Meticulously wipe each leaf with the oil? etc?
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Re: What exactly is eating my plants? [Re: spaceman101]
#22506431 - 11/10/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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You should only use neem oil for peats. Also you have to switch it up. Spider mites are a huge pain in the ass. I do it every three days with a different need solution.
1st time I use two caps of neem and one drop of dish soap.
Next spray is two caps of neem mixed with ceyene pepper water.
Third spray is two caps of neem and one cap of hydrogen peroxide the rest water.
Honestly it looks like you just burnt them with too much nutrients. The tips always burn first. Spider mites leave white dots all over the leafs.
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Re: What exactly is eating my plants? [Re: Sade]
#22506445 - 11/10/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's spider mites and a couple burnt leafs
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Re: What exactly is eating my plants? [Re: spaceman101]
#22507801 - 11/11/15 01:27 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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spaceman101 said:
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cowsRmeat said:
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Mostly_Harmless said: Rosemary oil
!!!!!!!!!!!! I've fought off RSM off of salvia more than once with Rosemary Oil.
As for where to get it- I found mine locally at a Vitamin store on the shelf with all the other essential oils. Cost me about 6 bucks and I think that bottle will end up lasting me the rest of my life...
What was your process? Just mist and leave it to dry? Meticulously wipe each leaf with the oil? etc?
Spray bottle, add some drops to clean water, shake it up and give the plants a good spray, especially the underside. The spraying action will dislodge mites too, they don't like getting wet. Rosemary oil and neem also both act as repellents, lowering chances of reinfestation, but any lingering mites might migrate to other untreated plants.
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Spinosad. It's certified organic and is a fermentation of a soil bacteria. Try to use it earlier in the flower cycle or still in veg, rather than on mature buds. It's much more effective than bT.
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Mostly_Harmless said: You can use neem as a systemic too. Be careful, both the neem and the pyrethins can lead to burns and damage even when used at the start of lights out.
I get rosemary oil online, you might find it in aromatherapy sections of stores, 100% rosemary essential oil. It's not a one shot deal, but repeated applications aren't harmful to the plants, so a safe addition to the arsenal.
Can you please explain more about using neem + pyrethrin at lights out?
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Re: What exactly is eating my plants? [Re: invitro]
#22512694 - 11/12/15 06:18 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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It isn't recommended to apply oils before sun-up/lights coming on, as this can lead to burns on your plants. I find it helps to rinse the foliage off again with clean warm water when lights are on to further guard against burns. And use at a lower strength than the bottle recommends.
This clip shows a purple haze damaged and then recovering from pyrethrins
and some examples of what it can do to cacti: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16011771#16011771
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UV light also degrades the active components in neem oil.
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Re: What exactly is eating my plants? [Re: El Torcho]
#22513100 - 11/12/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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You could make a tea with hot chili pods and garlic . maybe tobacco if you are not averse to using tobacco on your plants. I have Nicotinia rustica growing in my garden. I find that it works to rid plants of bugs. Next year I will be growing some Pyrethrum chrysanthemum and will be adding that to my arsenal as well. The tea, you could put in a sptay bottle with a drop or 2 of dawn.
I do not like to use chems on my plants when possible but RSM's are the scourge of plants and they gotta go. Kill them. Kill them all. LOL
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Re: What exactly is eating my plants? [Re: spaceman101]
#22533325 - 11/16/15 03:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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spaceman101 said:
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cowsRmeat said:
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Mostly_Harmless said: Rosemary oil
!!!!!!!!!!!! I've fought off RSM off of salvia more than once with Rosemary Oil.
As for where to get it- I found mine locally at a Vitamin store on the shelf with all the other essential oils. Cost me about 6 bucks and I think that bottle will end up lasting me the rest of my life...
What was your process? Just mist and leave it to dry? Meticulously wipe each leaf with the oil? etc?
I've got a 1L spray bottle (I think that's the size), I fill with water, add about 10 drops to it, shake it and spray it. I don't have any particular time I spray (morning, evening, or night). I just soak the plant down whenever I feel necessary. I don't wipe or anything.
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