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musiclover420
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Do you think indoor flowering of trichs would be possible in the PNW and other less suitable climates using supplemental light?
I have a dream of driving down south with a GPS and trying to establish "wild" patches of trichs using plants I have grown.
Then I can just gps all the locations to check up on them when I can.
Would be even cooler to own some southern property...
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What. . Like southern Oregon?. . oh hell yeah. . that sounds great. the climate would be like Peru.
Fantastic Idea.
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musiclover420
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I was thinking cali since it is even warmer but southern Or would be sweet too.
I am not sure how far south would be best for them go grow optimally though.Quote:
kizatzhaddarak said: Fantastic Idea. 
Thanks I would love to do it with peyote too to help make up for its over harvesting.
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Dude I'm soooo Jelly
Your plants look wonderful "especially your hard grown lophs" for their age
I can't wait to see how these turn out in the next 3 years or so
Keep us all posted on how things turn out for you homie.
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musiclover420 said: I was thinking cali since it is even warmer but southern Or would be sweet too.
I am not sure how far south would be best for them go grow optimally though.Quote:
kizatzhaddarak said: Fantastic Idea. 
Thanks I would love to do it with peyote too to help make up for its over harvesting.
Yeah, it would be cool to buy a tract of cheap ass desert in eastern Cali and take up cactus farming. Some day. 
I'm not sure what it would take to get trichs reliably flowering in the PNW. Probably a heated greenhouse with supplemental lights. It would be awesome to have a big enough greenhouse to put them in the ground, think they flower a lot better (and grow larger) with a lot of root space. I'm not sure, all I know is that the pedros in San Diego where I grew up flowered profusely towards the end of summer. They seem to need to be pretty big though.
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jellyfish


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Yea I'm really happy about my caespitose lophs especially. Not sure what I meant by hard grown. Guess I meant not grafted.
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Re: Pics of my garden [Re: jellyfish]
#22570940 - 11/24/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, seed grown or hard grown means they have their original roots and all growth is natural/non accelerated. The plants have an overall flatter and more natural looking shape that way and tend to get mature areoles at a smaller size. I like to have a few grafts of every species I grow just to have plants to enjoy looking at right away and hopefully get them flowering and producing more seeds, then letting the rest grow on their own.
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jellyfish


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Had a feeling I didn't make that up but spaceman putting it in quotations tripped me up. I really need to replant those lophs just waiting to get worm castings. They are looking good but there's a few turning kinda white that I find hard to capture on my camera and I feel they need faster drying soil and more frequent waterings.
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Re: Pics of my garden [Re: jellyfish]
#22571804 - 11/25/15 08:32 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mmm - there is some rather odd stuff being said in this thread. Drainage is important to all cacti - it has been recognized for a long time that mixes containing a good % of grit and/or coarse sand drain well, and cacti thrive in them. Gardeners have been putting coarse gravel in the bottom of their pots to further help drainage for all sorts of plants, for centuries. This is no barrier whatever to roots, which have no trouble penetrating virtually any medium including tarmac. In fact one symptom that a plant needs repotting is the roots finding their way out through the drain hole.
I would ask if the plants have enough light - bearing in mind there is no substitute for daylight for adult cactus plants.
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musiclover420
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I have made custom cacti soil mixes for most of my cacti using as much minerals and other well draining additives as I can.
But I honestly think some cacti grow better in rich soil, I have grown some from seed using both mineral heavy cacti mix and straight rich soil and I can tell the extra nutrients are appreciated as they tend to grow much bigger and quicker. However the best results I have had were using a combo of the two, basically a two layer method. One bottom layer of rich soil and one top layer of mineral heavy cacti mix topped with sand.
I have most of my cacti under a light in a shed for the winter and while a few are definitely stretching a bit many are growing pretty nice too. I intend to graft the tips of my etiolated bridgesii come spring so I am not too worried. My plants could definitely use more light but I a giving them as much as I can for now, I let my bigger trichs go dormant outside though.
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I always mix my own growing media - my standard mix for Mexican desert cacti (which most of mine are)contains a high proportion of grit and limestone, with a little nutrition - similar to conditions in habitat for most of them. I do vary things a little for other cacti.
As they do in habitat, my cacti get daylight all year round, which I consider to be a most important aspect of cultivation. And they are kept dry for the coldest 3 months. Growth then slows, and the last season´s new growth ripens and matures. But they are never dormant - I still get the odd flower in January - usually from a L. williamsii.
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musiclover420
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Spanishfly said: As they do in habitat, my cacti get daylight all year round.
Must be nice living in a climate like that, for most of the fall here it is overcast usually I enjoy the rain and thunder though.
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Chihuahuan globular rock lovers have different needs than trichocereus. Not every plant is a lophophora. Trichocereus can handle way more moisture, and do well with a more nutrient rich soil. You don't want to be excessive on the vitamin, N but they do a lot better in rich more organic soils than lophophora and appreciated a lot of leg room. Discocactus and frailea also like higher organic, nutritious soil and more frequent waterings.
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jellyfish


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Like I said, for my trichs and lophs I use worm castings mixed with gravel limestone and perlite. I could try giving the trichs more worm castings compared to the lophs but I fertilize them. Not sure what I should change. I am worried about my seedlings because they are in normal seed starter soil which is starting to harbour some sort of green fungus or algae or something so I want to move them to my regular soil mix. I definitely want to move my peres to typical potting soil because the cactus soil I mix up doesn't seem to do them much good.
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Re: Pics of my garden [Re: jellyfish]
#22576645 - 11/26/15 01:58 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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jellyfish said: Like I said, for my trichs and lophs I use worm castings mixed with gravel limestone and perlite. I could try giving the trichs more worm castings compared to the lophs but I fertilize them. Not sure what I should change. I am worried about my seedlings because they are in normal seed starter soil which is starting to harbour some sort of green fungus or algae or something so I want to move them to my regular soil mix. I definitely want to move my peres to typical potting soil because the cactus soil I mix up doesn't seem to do them much good.
I may be wrong on this, but I avoid limestone on my south-american cacti: they rely on the fertilizer I give them to provide for the little calcium they need. As far as I know (never cared to check it, though) the Trichocereus species you people care more about come from calcium poor soils.
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musiclover420
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Re: Pics of my garden [Re: LSoares]
#22577138 - 11/26/15 07:47 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pere really appreciate rich soils I have noticed.
Also I have had moss form on cacti soil mixes over time that has sand covering the surface, I doubt it is harmful. Not sure about green bacteria though.
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jellyfish


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Some new pics!
A couple of my peyotes have some white powdery stuff going on. Not sure what it is but it's making me sad.

My caespitose lophs. On the left and right of them are peruvian torch and san pedro but I don't remember which are which. Can anyone identify them?

My bridgesii

Lophs

Other plants. Can anyone tell me why my peres always start off nice and then lose their leaves and become all woody and shitty and start to die. At this point I always just take a cutting and start them over. I am going to start putting them in potting soil as opposed to nutrient poor high drainage cactus soil to see if that helps. Any tips?



My pedro cuttings

Again not sure if these are peruvian torch or pedros

Same with these.

I wrote it down somewhere....
Also my salvia cutting has grown roots.
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musiclover420
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Re: Pics of my garden [Re: jellyfish]
#22582406 - 11/27/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would say peru on the left and pach on the right but that could be wrong 
Also I would get those lophs into a much more dessert like soil mix, they really don't need much water at all and those look like they are retaining a lot.
They all look nice n healthy though besides that first one
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jellyfish


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yea they are in some random seed starter soil. I have been holding out on getting them into cactus soil because I can't find anyone selling worm castings in my area and that's what I use for the organic portion of my cactus soil.
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musiclover420
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Re: Pics of my garden [Re: jellyfish]
#22582647 - 11/27/15 02:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just use any organic soil mix you can find really.
Here is my favorite for all around use:

Foxfarms "ocean forest"
I usually just buy cacti soil mix then add some organic soil then perlite and other things to aerate the soil out as much as necessary.
Works pretty well.
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