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jellyfish


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Pics of my garden 1
#22502896 - 11/09/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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So in another thread I've shown how my salvias are sick and dying. I've decided to make a new thread about how my other plants aren't sick and dying. So here's some pics. Please feel free to provide advice. The seedlings are in some seed starter mix I forget the brand. The other cacti are in soil I mixed up using limestone, gravel, worm castings and perlite. I water them with pH 6ish water and fertilize them rarely with half strength ferts. The original plan was to grow peres and peyotes but I suck at grafting (I've tried like 4 times now) and hate cutting my babies. I have a lot of bridgesii seedlings and only a few pedro and peruvian torch seedlings but I can't tell which are which because I wrote it down and forget where I wrote it.
That's a woody old pereskiopsis in the foreground. Cacti are pedros and peyotes.

Some cacti seedlings. Some peyotes look healthier than others. Not sure when to transplant. A couple have some white colouration on their tops, almost like powder.




lophophora caespitosa, peruvian torch and pedros but can't remember which trichs are which



Some bridgesii:


Edited by jellyfish (11/09/15 10:19 PM)
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Re: Pics of my garden [Re: jellyfish]
#22503321 - 11/10/15 01:47 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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those are some nice seedlings man, good job :
how old are those lophs?
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Edited by Rafiikii (11/10/15 01:47 AM)
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Re: Pics of my garden [Re: Rafiikii]
#22503776 - 11/10/15 07:07 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Jellyfish, Nice looking seedlings dude! That four ribbed bridgesii(i think its 4 sided , looks like itmwill grow up a beast) The mix you have them in sounds fine with one exception , I don't think roots do very well penetrating gravel , so if you have rocks at the bottom of the pot I'd suggest removing them because soil can smell and become anaerobic with rocks blocking oxygen at the bottom.
I've found rocks causing more trouble than they're worth having for decorations.
I've also got a low,success rate for grafting , maybe like 3/10 tries have worked. Still have never been able to graft Pereskiposis yet. I think connecting lophs to Peres is more difficult than lophs to trichocereus
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JayZ Morgan said: Jellyfish, Nice looking seedlings dude! That four ribbed bridgesii(i think its 4 sided , looks like itmwill grow up a beast) The mix you have them in sounds fine with one exception , I don't think roots do very well penetrating gravel , so if you have rocks at the bottom of the pot I'd suggest removing them because soil can smell and become anaerobic with rocks blocking oxygen at the bottom.
I've found rocks causing more trouble than they're worth having for decorations.
I've also got a low,success rate for grafting , maybe like 3/10 tries have worked. Still have never been able to graft Pereskiposis yet. I think connecting lophs to Peres is more difficult than lophs to trichocereus
Get some parafilm. You use a 3/4" square of that stuff, stretch it out then pull it down over your scion to seal and put some pressure on it and your success rate will shoot to 99%. Pretty foolproof, so long as you have good sterile technique. Dirty work will lead to some nasty rot with the extra humidity.
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jellyfish


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Those lophs were planted in Feb. I have mad parafilm, never thought to use it but that's a great tip I'll try that. I didn't add gravel for decoration I literally just mixed up the same soil mix as the dude who I get my seeds from because his plants are really nice and healthy. I figured it's just for drainage but I could stop using it and double up on perlite instead.
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Re: Pics of my garden [Re: jellyfish]
#22504849 - 11/10/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Gravel mixed inside is fine IMO, I think he's talking about a bottom layer of rocks or a topping of straight gravel, both of which can trap moisture.
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Your plants look soo healthy dude. Great job
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 Lookin nice!
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Re: Pics of my garden [Re: cowsRmeat]
#22508863 - 11/11/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Should I transplant those babies into a more adult soil mix. As you can see there's a bit of green shit growing in it and a couple of the cacti have died.
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Re: Pics of my garden [Re: jellyfish]
#22513056 - 11/12/15 09:07 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would say, Yes Jellyfish. You are now ready to give them them the first repot to their own containers. There are all kinds of threads on here about cacti soil mixes, but yes. get some pots and cacti soil. Also, you might want some nice rocks to help support the cacti at this stage to an upright position. I find that when they Lean and fall over, you can correct them with a rock or 2 near the base, or sometimes a top layer of gravel.
Best of luck.
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In my original post I've outlined what I put into my own cactus mix. I've been waiting to get more worm castings to mix up some more but unless anyone sees a problem with it thats what I will continue to use.
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Re: Pics of my garden [Re: jellyfish]
#22515026 - 11/12/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nice seedlings indeed, keep on practicing with the grafting and you will get more used to it.
Cutting up precious baby cacti can be painful especially if you don't even succeed with the graft but its very worth it when you do.
Just start with whatever you have the most of so losing some isn't as big a deal, that has been my plan
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Aww yea. One of my seedling caespitosa just started pupping. Going to upload a pic now. I have my peres in cactus soil I've mixed up. Limestone, worm castings, gravel and perlite. They always start off nice then lose their leaves and look like shit. Should I keep them in a soil less designed for cacti? Like regular potting soil? I have some promix I bought for my salvias. Just a thought.
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Re: Pics of my garden [Re: jellyfish]
#22515349 - 11/12/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Forgot to take a pic of this plant last time:

And here's the pup:
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Re: Pics of my garden [Re: jellyfish]
#22515437 - 11/12/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have a ton of pere in regular potting soil doing quite well. I even re potted one that was in a less rich cactus mix into straight fertile soil.
From what I have seen of pere they appreciate rich soil and pretty much all the water you can give em. Same with most plants though I guess.
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Yea alright I'm going to try potting soil for them. And my seedlings I'm going to transplant as soon as I get worm castings to mix up soil. I'm thinking of getting some more seeds for the seedling tray. Maybe 100 caespitosa lophs or something. They're pretty cool.
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Re: Pics of my garden [Re: jellyfish]
#22515506 - 11/12/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Caespitosa are cool indeed, they go crazy when grafted
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Don't all peyotes go crazy when grafted? I was thinking there'd be no point to grafting my caespitose ones. I was wondering, how do you get peyotes and trichs to flower? That one san pedro I have is pretty damn big, it's never flowered. Is there a way to trigger it? I know my peyotes are still too small but I would like to start collecting seed asap.
edit: These guys are under fluorescent lights. They are on 16/8. Are they too weak to allow flowering? Do they need a special light schedule or temperature to flower? In the winter the light cycle is the same and temperature is only a tad lower so I don't think they go into dormancy. Is there a way to get them to? Is that necessary for flowering? I guess I'm asking about both peyotes and pedros.
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Re: Pics of my garden [Re: jellyfish]
#22561958 - 11/23/15 01:09 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Grafting definitely causes some over the top features a lot but with caes they form crazy mass of pups. Its nuts 
They big yote cluster I bought on ebay flowered this summer once or twice after I put it outside in the warmest part of the season.
Never had a trich flower yet, I think having them go dormant in the winter helps. That way they store up energy to flower when it warms up.
They may just need a warm sunny climate though 
I haven't read up much of flowering either so that is all I know really, grafting yotes can speed up their flowering/ seeding age a fuckton though.
Like 30~ years to flower from seed in the wild I have heard and you can get them to flower grafted in around 1 year...
About dormancy, I have some trichs still outside in this 30-40 low weather that seem to have gone dormant. They still get a bit of sun but not much now.
I think temp an water are the biggest factors, stop watering them and put them somewhere cool with less light and they should go dormant.
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musiclover420 said: Grafting definitely causes some over the top features a lot but with caes they form crazy mass of pups. Its nuts 
They big yote cluster I bought on ebay flowered this summer once or twice after I put it outside in the warmest part of the season.
Never had a trich flower yet, I think having them go dormant in the winter helps. That way they store up energy to flower when it warms up.
They may just need a warm sunny climate though 
I haven't read up much of flowering either so that is all I know really, grafting yotes can speed up their flowering/ seeding age a fuckton though.
Like 30~ years to flower from seed in the wild I have heard and you can get them to flower grafted in around 1 year...
About dormancy, I have some trichs still outside in this 30-40 low weather that seem to have gone dormant. They still get a bit of sun but not much now.
I think temp an water are the biggest factors, stop watering them and put them somewhere cool with less light and they should go dormant.
I believe that trichs are short day, late summer bloomers, so you need hot temps and shorter days, not something that really happens very often in the PNW. A nursery owner I know said his big pedros bloomed a year or two ago when we had a really warm summer that lasted well into late August/Early September. The other thing is that most trichocereus need to be pretty large before they will flower. Anyway, it's hard to get any of the warm weather late season bloomers to go around here. Astros and lophophora bloom easily once they're mature though, if you want cactus flowers and your falls are cool and wet it's best to focus on spring blooming species.
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