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Invisible1stimer
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does consciousness take up space?
    #2250108 - 01/18/04 11:18 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If it does then that proves that cells have consciousness. do organells have consciousness? If consciousness doesn't take up space then it would be considered a point. Maybe consciousness is a black hole?


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Re: does consciousness take up space? [Re: 1stimer]
    #2250230 - 01/18/04 12:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

um.. how the hell does conciousness taking up space prove that cells have conciousness? fill us in on this loopy logic please


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Re: does consciousness take up space? [Re: 1stimer]
    #2250245 - 01/18/04 12:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Maybe consciousness is a black hole?




I've often thought that

once i read a paper about how black holes were like the stellar equivalent of a conscious being. not really "equivalent", but there are a lot of parallels.


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Re: does consciousness take up space? [Re: PHARMAKOS]
    #2250403 - 01/18/04 02:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

what other space is there in our bodies other than that taken up by cells?


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Re: does consciousness take up space? [Re: 1stimer]
    #2250457 - 01/18/04 02:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Does purple take up space?


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Re: does consciousness take up space? [Re: Swami]
    #2250514 - 01/18/04 03:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:lol: purple...


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Re: does consciousness take up space? [Re: 1stimer]
    #2250520 - 01/18/04 03:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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1stimer said:
what other space is there in our bodies other than that taken up by cells?




I think it's a little deeper then that though.. An Economy exists throughout trading of goods based on supply and demand, yet the economy isn't anything physical - it's a concept; I think this can be applied to conciousness as well - it's the product of our brains, not neccassarily physicial, but no-less real.


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Re: does consciousness take up space? [Re: Swami]
    #2250535 - 01/18/04 03:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Does purple take up space?

yes, about 400 nanometers.


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Re: does consciousness take up space? [Re: infidelGOD]
    #2250541 - 01/18/04 03:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

consiousness MAKES up space
that is to say it accounts for it


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Re: does consciousness take up space? [Re: 1stimer]
    #2250551 - 01/18/04 03:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I believe consciousness takes up space.

In the book "The Field", can't remember the author right now, supposedly everything emits and absorbs energy. We just can't see the exchange of energy.

If we emit energy, it would seem to me that the energy we emit will have the "feelings" in it that are experiencing. Not everyone can pick up on those feelings, but I've met some somewhat psychic people who can.

Edgar Cayce is a good example.


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Re: does consciousness take up space? [Re: Frog]
    #2250581 - 01/18/04 03:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

interesting points from nubious and mitchnast. i dig.


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Re: does consciousness take up space? [Re: nubious]
    #2251565 - 01/19/04 12:18 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

how is anything not physical?


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Re: does consciousness take up space? [Re: 1stimer]
    #2251573 - 01/19/04 12:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

some things have physical charcteristics (meaning they interact with atleast one of the five senses), while other things, such as thoughts, do not. dig?


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Re: does consciousness take up space? [Re: nubious]
    #2251693 - 01/19/04 01:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The economy is the products and services and the currency being exchanged. As all things, it is the sum of its parts.

I got high once and wanted to know if time had a mass. I thought that maybe the reason scientists are confused about Dark Matter was because all that extra mass the universe is supposed to have is time. Then I thought that maybe eventually, when enough time has gone by, all that extra weight from all that time will catch the ever expanding stars and suck them back in.

But the more I thought about it the less sense it made.


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Re: does consciousness take up space? [Re: Frog]
    #2252107 - 01/19/04 06:35 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Frog said:
I believe consciousness takes up space.

In the book "The Field", can't remember the author right now, supposedly everything emits and absorbs energy. We just can't see the exchange of energy.

If we emit energy, it would seem to me that the energy we emit will have the "feelings" in it that are experiencing. Not everyone can pick up on those feelings, but I've met some somewhat psychic people who can.

Edgar Cayce is a good example.




In other words you are talking about Auras?


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Re: does consciousness take up space? [Re: 1stimer]
    #2252137 - 01/19/04 07:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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1stimer said:
what other space is there in our bodies other than that taken up by cells?


Cells are made of molecules, molecules of atoms... etc. ---> the smallest particles have consciousness. (Do strings have consciousness??? :confused:)

It doesn't make sense....


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Re: does consciousness take up space? [Re: 1stimer]
    #2252152 - 01/19/04 07:35 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well consciousness is the part of us thats connects us to everything that is. Think about it this way, can you imagine and end? No, therefor there is no end, well, you can imagine an end but that would be putting a limit to your imagination. Your thoughts can go on forever, you can imagine anything in any way, shape, form, non-shape, in any pattern... basically the consciousness does not have limitations, therfor it is all that is. And yes the consciousness takes space, all the space in the universe.... in all-that-is, because everything you percieve is in your consciousness, everything other people percieve is in THEIR consciousness and their consciousness takes up the same space your consciousness does, therfore all consciousnesses are intertwined (making a unison) taking up all the space that is together... in eternity. The only way of understanding this theory is to not limit your understanding of things to physical objects. Or you just have to understand that everything is built up by energy, and this is why we are all connected as one by energy. WHy we are all differant individuals in this whole big intertwined consciousness/universe is whole differant subject... but then again the same.


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Re: does consciousness take up space? [Re: 1stimer]
    #2252157 - 01/19/04 07:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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1stimer said:
how is anything not physical?



If you describe physical by the fact that you can touch and see then you are not looking at it the right way (according to my opinion ofcourse). You could say EVERYTHING is physical and you could say NOTHING is physical. Look, every cell, molecule... or whatever... everyTHING vibrates at a certain frequency, the ones we can see and touch are amongst the things that vibrate at the slowest frequency. If you heat up a block of ice the molecules will vibrate and the ice will turn to water, heating it more (causing the molecules to vibrate faster) turns the water into steam which is harder to touch and see but yet the frequency of steam moves just slow enough for us to percieve it. Spirits can walk amongst us all the time, but they are hadly visible, their frequency vibrates at an incredible speed. Its all metaphysics.


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Re: does consciousness take up space? [Re: filthysock]
    #2252162 - 01/19/04 07:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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turns the water into steam which is harder to touch and see but yet the frequency of steam moves just slow enough for us to percieve it


This has nothing to do with the frequency of the vibrating molecules. Where did you learn this?

How do we percieve water in gas phase?


Edited by Annom (01/19/04 07:53 AM)


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Re: does consciousness take up space? [Re: filthysock]
    #2252170 - 01/19/04 08:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

PM me for anyone interested in Consciousness Compacts. They are small, cute acrylic, metal or hardwood containers to put your consciousness in. Please specify material desired and natural color, black, silver or navy blue. $14.95 retail.


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