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Coastalchronic
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Is this a medicinal ganoderma?
#22500835 - 11/09/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I found these growing on a decaying maple tree that is laying in a creek. I live on the Oregon coast.




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RuralAnomaly
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i'd say yes to both, the first looking like Ganoderma applanatum, and the second one of the other Ganoderma (maybe tsugae?) not sure with west coast. i find G. curteisii apparently.
the stalked ones are pretty cool huh?
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I think the first one may be Fomitopsis pinicola and the second looks like a Ganoderma, not sure which species- I've never seen a stalked one like that here in Oregon.
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Mrcloudy
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Could you cut the stalked one in half? Do you know what kind of wood it was on?
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Coastalchronic
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Re: Is this a medicinal ganoderma? [Re: canid]
#22503177 - 11/10/15 12:18 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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The stalk is what caught my eye and reminded me of the pictures of reishi mushrooms. It was growing from an old decaying maple that has been laying in a creek behind my house. I did try to break a piece of the stalked one off to see the inside flesh and it was very difficult. Once it broke the inside reminded me of wood.All of these were growing withing 6 inches of each other on the same log.


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Coastalchronic
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btw that pic of the ten diff kinds is absolutely beautiful!
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Mrcloudy
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Interesting...
Do you have a microscope?
I think this is either a member of the G.lucidum clade, or G.oregonense growing atypically on a hardwood.
Multiple species can indeed grow on a single tree within inches of each other, even from a different genus.
A user on reddit posted this which is Ganoderma curtisii and Ganoderma lobatum sharing the same general area on a tree.

Members of the G.tsugae complex, including G.oregonense can species hop, occasionally growing on hardwoods. Below is G.tsugae that I found here in New York growing on a maple, I also found one growing on Oak as well.



That being said given the unique morphology you might have a species that I have been looking at that seems closely related to European G.lucidum. So far I have only seen it from California, but I don't see why it could not grow in Oregon as well. I think microscopy of the spores should be able to distinguish but I will have to check my records.
I suppose given its apparent brown color could be a stipitate G.applanatum, but that is highly uncommon, not all together impossible though. If you send me the specimen I could do microscopy on it to figure it out.
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Coastalchronic said: btw that pic of the ten diff kinds is absolutely beautiful!
Thank you! I collected up my most photogenic specimens for the photo, those ones were all sent to me from across the US
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Coastalchronic
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Re: Is this a medicinal ganoderma? [Re: Mrcloudy]
#22511881 - 11/11/15 10:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I do have a microscope actually. Would this be a good specimen to use for medicinal tea? I have read many benefits about drinking tea from these kind of fungi. What do I need to do with the microscope to find out what it truly is? Also how would I go about getting a spore print from it?
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Mrcloudy
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You wont be able to get a spore print from it, once they are picked they stop dropping spores very quickly.
In order to determine what species it is you will need to look at the spores, You should be able to find some as a brown powder somewhere on the mushroom, they often drift up and coat the whole surface, if it has been raining you may only be able to find them stuck in a crevice. It will look similar to cocoa powder. You will need to measure the spores and their size. This should be able to distinguish between G.oregonense and other Ganoderma.
To tell whether or not it is G.applanatum you will have to shave little flakes off from the skin. I can go into more detail about this process later, but the shape of the cells will help place it.
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