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    #22500224 - 11/09/15 12:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I've never sucessfully done bulk before but I thought I would give it another go. So this time, I made sure to use SFD's on the jars and use CVG rather than h. poo. So, here are the results so far. will update when I am available to check on them.




And the 2nd one:


Does anyone have any advice on this setup?

Update: cut down the bags and the mushrooms still doing nicely after 3 days later. One of my 4 jars had contammed, but I decided to throw it in smaller jars and let it colonize, it has fought off most the contam and might bear fruit soon. However, I know that 1 bad apple spoils the pie so I opted to leave it out of the CVG mix.



The previously contammed grains:


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Re: mini SGFC bulk [Re: naturesrevolt]
    #22500242 - 11/09/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: mini SGFC bulk [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #22500388 - 11/09/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, that was one of the threads that gave me the idea for this setup. Also the original with the same green lids.


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Re: mini SGFC bulk [Re: naturesrevolt]
    #22500486 - 11/09/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21755304

I started with docs tubs but ended up with the link above. Good luck


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Re: mini SGFC bulk [Re: funkyfish77]
    #22500572 - 11/09/15 01:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21032606

:popcorn:

Doc T's tubs have been known to dry out quickly.


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Re: mini SGFC bulk [Re: naturesrevolt]
    #22501251 - 11/09/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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naturesrevolt said:

And the 2nd one:


Does anyone have any advice on this setup?



Cut down that liner as close as possible to the surface of the sub :super:


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Re: mini SGFC bulk [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22503534 - 11/10/15 04:13 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

^^^^ thanks, i just trimmed mine. Totally forgot about that til reading your post lol


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Re: mini SGFC bulk [Re: Evan14] * 1
    #22503587 - 11/10/15 04:50 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I've used this setup a lot.  The pinsets can be pretty god damn amazing and the fruits tend to show no evidence of CO2 buildup.

You may need to mist it twice a day if your temperatures are high and/or your humidity is very low.  In fact if you live in an arid climte, I would personally suggest changing the whole spacing to like 2.5"  Definitely use a casing layer, preferably peat based.

Most of all, don't be afraid to mist it pretty hard.  If you come back after 4 hours and the water droplets are gone from the surface, that doesn't mean you need to mist it every 4 hours, it just means you need to mist it more.  Twice a day is always a good misting policy with these, but you can definitely get away with once if your ambient conditions aren't shitty.  Doc_T lived in the desert after all and I think he said he only misted it once.

Controled open air fruiting is perhaps a good way to think of these.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
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Re: mini SGFC bulk [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22503933 - 11/10/15 08:03 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Time to get out the exacto knife. :laugh:


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Re: mini SGFC bulk [Re: naturesrevolt]
    #22558224 - 11/22/15 01:49 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I've been letting the mushrooms hang out and colonize in the closet since last update.



I do see some sprouts on top. Yet, when I lift up the bins there is side pinning like a mofo.



Is there any way I can combat this?


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Re: mini SGFC bulk [Re: naturesrevolt]
    #22558393 - 11/22/15 04:48 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I've been letting the mushrooms hang out and colonize in the closet since last update.



I do see some sprouts on top. Yet, when I lift up the bins there is side pinning like a mofo.



Is there any way I can combat this?




I'm pretty sure it has to be a black or darker color liner than what you have. Some one yell at me if I'm wrong, but if light is able to penetrate the liner they mycelium will push mush out of the area light is getting too. After this flush but a black liner at the bottom so this can't happen. If you can't do that maybe put the tub in a black trash bag and cut it down to size to match the hight of the sub.


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Re: mini SGFC bulk [Re: JacobStorm]
    #22558401 - 11/22/15 04:54 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The bag is helping with humidity on the sides. This my be the result of your side pinning. Try laying way paper or bubble wrap over your substrate.


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Re: mini SGFC bulk [Re: Grova]
    #22559586 - 11/22/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You don't need a black bag, any color will do. It's not light that causes side pins.


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Re: mini SGFC bulk [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #22559698 - 11/22/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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You don't need a black bag, any color will do. It's not light that causes side pins.




Huh. What causes it?


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Re: mini SGFC bulk [Re: JacobStorm]
    #22559725 - 11/22/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I'm wondering if I let them colonize too long and they decided to fruit anyway.


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Re: mini SGFC bulk [Re: naturesrevolt]
    #22559842 - 11/22/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Side pins are caused from there being an nice micro-climate in between the sub and tub, making it a perfect plans for pin formation. The liner sticks to the sub as it shrinks, preventing the ideal micro-climate from forming, hence lessening side pins. Pins will form where the conditions are best, so if that's the side of the sub, that's where they will be.


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Re: mini SGFC bulk [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #22562647 - 11/23/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

so what should I do? more misting? pick them off? re-do the bags?


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Re: mini SGFC bulk [Re: naturesrevolt]
    #22562663 - 11/23/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

They look kinda nasty I would restart. You're supposed to let the myc colonize the sub before introducing FAE. I think doc put his tubs in a trash bag since the tubs have holes like a SGFC.


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Re: mini SGFC bulk [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #22562698 - 11/23/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I just place a trash bag over a stack of a few msg's.  It allows some air in, but not that much.

If you leave them in open air they'll definitely dry out.  These things need to be misted daily at least (depending on temp and rH for evap rates.)

The best way to think about these is as a sort of controlled open air grow IMO.  I definitely feel they have the ability to produce some stellar results compared to classic monos.  Sterilite showoffs are unfortunately a little bit narrow and deep in my opinion, and tend to push you into making a deeper substrate than you would otherwise want.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."


No, this does not look right...


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Re: mini SGFC bulk [Re: naturesrevolt]
    #22581488 - 11/27/15 09:37 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

So, I figured out that the stream of my heater goes directly to the window/mushrooms. So I had to move them. Just to illustrate, my mushrooms went from this:


To this:
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A lesson for me to know always where the dry, hot air comes from in your grow area.


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Re: mini SGFC bulk [Re: naturesrevolt]
    #22581586 - 11/27/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I'd clone that fatty in the middle there! :awesomenod:

Interesting setup. Never seen someone with a monotub/SGFC hybrid before.


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Re: mini SGFC bulk [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22582035 - 11/27/15 11:51 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I used these articles:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10713572#10713572

and:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16054798/fpart/3/vc/1#16054798

I was browsing and looking for alternate ways than those bulky 66L tubs to fruit cakes in and stumbled upon DocT's tubs. So I converted a few of those over to half/halfs of holes on the bottom for the SGFC's doing cakes but kept half for bulk like Doc did. The cakes exploded in growth I've never seen from cakes because the smaller chamber and the humidity was able to be controlled finer. I have the same concerns with big mono's and the amount of fine-tuning involved.


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Re: mini SGFC bulk [Re: naturesrevolt]
    #22606559 - 12/02/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

It's alive!





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