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Ezuma
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4-aco-DMT trip today
#22500055 - 11/09/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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just downed about 20mg 4-aco dmt, got another 10 mg dose prepped if I feel the need to kick things up a notch. First solo trip in a while  hopefully this soon: how have your experiences been lately all? Or say, how do you find redosing this chem?
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Re: 4-aco-DMT trip today [Re: Ezuma] 1
#22500075 - 11/09/15 11:48 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've never used it but... Good wizard vibes your way! Hold on I'm casting a happy spell for you
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Re: 4-aco-DMT trip today [Re: Ezuma]
#22500095 - 11/09/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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You can redose that shit all night. We used to rail 5-10mg lines every hour all night until we were too fucked up to rail more. I've redosed it easily 5+ times in one night and kept getting high, however I never got as high as if I had eaten all my cumulative doses at once.
That chemical gives me intense crippling anxiety I don't like it at all. I don't really find it a lot like mushrooms.
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Re: 4-aco-DMT trip today [Re: Zombi3]
#22500164 - 11/09/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I shall consider it sir. Man this hits fast. Anxiety is there but no more than MET gave me so far, this has a weird body high tho thats sorta like a sedative
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Re: 4-aco-DMT trip today [Re: Ezuma]
#22500178 - 11/09/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I never had any inkling of anxiety from 4-AcO-MET even at 45mg man that shit is a god dam gem
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Re: 4-aco-DMT trip today [Re: Zombi3]
#22500491 - 11/09/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Zombi3 said: I never had any inkling of anxiety from 4-AcO-MET even at 45mg man that shit is a god dam gem
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Re: 4-aco-DMT trip today [Re: Ezuma]
#22500494 - 11/09/15 01:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Good vibes OP!  
Love, Hanz.
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Re: 4-aco-DMT trip today [Re: Zombi3]
#22500688 - 11/09/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I shall be sticking to MET and LSD in future lol. This kinda blows
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Re: 4-aco-DMT trip today [Re: Ezuma]
#22500699 - 11/09/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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LMAO that's how I feel too. I hate 4-AcO-DMT it's nothing special at all I rather just smoke weed.
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Re: 4-aco-DMT trip today [Re: Zombi3]
#22500707 - 11/09/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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It feels pretty much like mushrooms including anxiety and emotional swings but lacking the mystical aspect, so its basically shit... at least this trip has been
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Re: 4-aco-DMT trip today [Re: Ezuma] 1
#22500716 - 11/09/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I get crazy visuals if I plug it but I always get bad nausea and crippling anxiety from it so I also think it is basically shit.
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Re: 4-aco-DMT trip today [Re: Zombi3]
#22500931 - 11/09/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I found 4-AcO DMT gives me crippling anxiety and nausea too. It's like the mindfuck and physical effects aren't proportional to the visuals. I haven't really had much OEV or CEV with this substance. Just a ton of mindfuck and anxiety/confusion
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yeah the head space isn't even really interesting the way most psychs are, just annoying. Probably partly from the lowish dose but still usually you get some inkling of something there
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Re: 4-aco-DMT trip today [Re: Ezuma]
#22500953 - 11/09/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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My first 4-aco-DMT trip was extraordinarily profound & moving. Very mystical and psychedelic. That being said, the anxiety I get on the come-up is absolutely unbearable, my favorite part is the come-down just because the scary trip is over haha.
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Re: 4-aco-DMT trip today [Re: Ezuma]
#22501483 - 11/09/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: It feels pretty much like mushrooms including anxiety and emotional swings but lacking the mystical aspect, so its basically shit... at least this trip has been 
Not all mushroom trips are mystical, and not all 4-aco-dmt trips are either.
I have found this Chem to be just like shrooms minus the upset stomach for me. And a much faster come up. Of course I do snort it.
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Maybe I'm just spoiled after tripping on MET and LSD, those two are pretty nice chems. Probably also not the right time to trip, maybe not the right mindset.
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Re: 4-aco-DMT trip today [Re: Ezuma]
#22501576 - 11/09/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wanted to throw away my 4-AcO-DMT after trying 4-AcO-MET, the latter made the former look like dogshit.
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Re: 4-aco-DMT trip today [Re: Zombi3]
#22501603 - 11/09/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Zombi3 said: I wanted to throw away my 4-AcO-DMT after trying 4-AcO-MET, the latter made the former look like dogshit.
I was aware of your opinion before but now I really see what you mean. I mean, if you only trip every so often, I really can't see why I would go for this over the other options... maybe this was just a bad time but I dunno
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Re: 4-aco-DMT trip today [Re: Zombi3]
#22501627 - 11/09/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Zombi3 said: I wanted to throw away my 4-AcO-DMT after trying 4-AcO-MET, the latter made the former look like dogshit.
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Re: 4-aco-DMT trip today [Re: Ezuma]
#22501630 - 11/09/15 05:44 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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It has a good rep on the internet but I don't know a single person IRL who enjoys 4-AcO-DMT.
I do know a handful of people who hate it though. It makes 2 people I know feel dysphoric and like they're going to pass out. And always gives everybody terrible terrible anxiety to the point nobody enjoys themselves.
I enjoyed my very first trip with it but every time after that I fully regretted taking it.
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Re: 4-aco-DMT trip today [Re: Zombi3]
#22501805 - 11/09/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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These are pretty much some of the only negative reports I've heard of this chem. All of the friends I had the pleasure of sharing this one with enjoyed it. It's honestly in my top three. Along with lsd and weed.
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Supachopped719 said: These are pretty much some of the only negative reports I've heard of this chem. All of the friends I had the pleasure of sharing this one with enjoyed it. It's honestly in my top three. Along with lsd and weed.
Same here. This is the first time I've ever reading anything negative about 4-AcO-DMT. What are your guys' usual dosage?
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I have experience dosing 4-AcO-DMT in doses ranging from 1mg to 55mg. I have experience with this chem in the following ROA's: oral, insufflated, plugged. I have tripped on it easily 30 times. The hands down worst trip of my entire life was on this substance. It was absolute terror.
I only ever enjoyed myself when I plugged it because the visuals were awesome but I still couldn't escape the anxiety.
I don't know why I kept using it honestly. Of my 30 trips I'd be surprised if I enjoyed 10 of them. Off the top of my head I can remember only 3 trips I enjoyed, all 3 were plugged and were lower than 22mg.
IME it's nothing like mushrooms other than the length an the body high.
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Re: 4-aco-DMT trip today [Re: Zombi3]
#22501930 - 11/09/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thank you for being descriptive. Were the intense visuals the main source of anxiety?
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No the anxiety is unlike anything I've experienced on any other chemical. Always had this looming sense of doom or danger. I feel panicked and delirious. Just plain scared and unable to calm down. That combined with the bad nausea I get always made me feel poisoned. I often got headaches on the come down also. I think the only reason I was able to keep dosing it was because my trip buddy is my best friend ever and even in bad mind states we have fun together. Though we were never able to leave the house on this stuff from the anxiety. We can go into public to a crowded skatepark on a few hits of acid but couldn't even handle seeing other friends on this stuff.
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I've only done it this one, 18mg and it wasn't great I'm sure it can be better in different circumstances, but it has way more side effects than I want in a psych lots of anxiety -much more than lsd for me- and at least at that dose it was utterly uninteresting and lacking in visuals maybe some people just don't take to it
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Re: 4-aco-DMT trip today [Re: Ezuma]
#22503734 - 11/10/15 06:28 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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thank you for your report!
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Re: 4-aco-DMT trip today [Re: Ezuma]
#22507656 - 11/11/15 12:18 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: I shall be sticking to MET and LSD in future lol. This kinda blows
You need to try them to find out they suck. I always heard it was just like mushrooms. Maybe one day I will.
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Re: 4-aco-DMT trip today [Re: my3rdeye]
#22507726 - 11/11/15 12:49 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nice dude, good vibes your way! Reminds me of when I got a gram of that stuff, works good.
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Re: 4-aco-DMT trip today [Re: Ezuma]
#22508489 - 11/11/15 09:12 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Zombi3 said: No the anxiety is unlike anything I've experienced on any other chemical. Always had this looming sense of doom or danger. I feel panicked and delirious. Just plain scared and unable to calm down. That combined with the bad nausea I get always made me feel poisoned. I often got headaches on the come down also. I think the only reason I was able to keep dosing it was because my trip buddy is my best friend ever and even in bad mind states we have fun together. Though we were never able to leave the house on this stuff from the anxiety. We can go into public to a crowded skatepark on a few hits of acid but couldn't even handle seeing other friends on this stuff.
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Ezuma said: I've only done it this one, 18mg and it wasn't great I'm sure it can be better in different circumstances, but it has way more side effects than I want in a psych lots of anxiety -much more than lsd for me- and at least at that dose it was utterly uninteresting and lacking in visuals maybe some people just don't take to it
All this once again made me decide to skip 4aco Dmt and go straight for 4aco Met. Just have to wait a bit till my trusted vendor has it. He has 4ho Met now, and I've heard good things about it, that it's very close to 4aco Met, but still I'll wait till he has the Met version.
Lately I feel I have become less interested in shrooms, and I want to see how different the 4aco Met is from good old shrooms. Also looking forward to tripping without having to make that tea or eat those awful shrooms. But that's detail.
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Re: 4-aco-DMT trip today [Re: Hanz]
#22508968 - 11/11/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Worse trip I ever experienced was on 4-aco-dmt after that I threw the rest away, like other people have said I got really bad anxiety to the point where I was about to go to hospital, was so glad when it ended, now I just stick to shrooms,lsd and dmt, I don't mess with them research chemicals anymore
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Re: 4-aco-DMT trip today [Re: sbc1]
#22509024 - 11/11/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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hm very strange, I've taken up to 30mg at once of 4-aco-dmt and didn't notice anything that bad. I will say the anxiety was probably higher than that of a shroom trip, but nowhere near freaking out and wanting to go to the hospital. To me the worst thing about 4-aco that i've noticed is that at high enough doses my motor skills take a plunge like i'm drunk and disoriented.
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it seemed like it could be a good chem if not for the anxiety, it was just too much and too many rushing thoughts for me to get anything out of it. Honestly much stronger lsd or met trips are way more manageable, i mean keeping in mind this was just one bad experience, but i couldn't deal with that level of anxiety and achieve anything else. Literally just spent 6 hrs trying not to freak out, to a degree I haven' experienced with other chems up till this point
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