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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: FaceMelt]
    #22506593 - 11/10/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

A full dose of rue can multiply the intensity of a given dose of mushrooms by 3 or 4 times, so I'd say 6 grams is a bit much. I would go with 1.5-2 grams, or just do the full dose of mushrooms and smoke some rue once you're comfortable.


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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: Starless]
    #22508840 - 11/11/15 11:02 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldn't combine the lemon tek and the rue, choose between the two.

Personally, I love to combine shrooms with rue, it changes the whole vibe of the experience and it reminds me of ayahuasca. It also lasts longer. The most I did was about 4g of rue (upping the dose doesn't change anything, you just need the right amount for MAO inhibition) and 5.25g of shrooms. I started with about 2.5 or 3g of shrooms, but as I felt nothing after a good while, I just ate the remaining amount I had and smoked a blunt. It all came up at once, instantly, and what followed was at least 5 hours of life-changing insanity.

The lemon, OTOH, will potentiate your dose but hardly change the nature of the experience, and I gather that's what you're looking for. Up to you.


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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: Aldous]
    #22511944 - 11/11/15 10:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Im thinking 3 grams and rue will be enough. I have yet to combine rue and mushrooms I have lemon teked but found it stupid because it draws away from the experience but increases visuals. I love aya and think its the best plant medicine out there but mushrooms and rue alone can't be like aya can it? I have has many aya doses from the amazon to my basement aya is something else. I find aya to be more of a dream mushrooms are more of a drug. Does rue really make the mushrooms like aya because my aya doses are always not in this world I usually close my eyes or drift off into a jungle or into the other side but  even my highest dose of mushrooms just brings sublime patterns never anything as clear and vivid as the other side.


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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: FaceMelt]
    #22513235 - 11/12/15 10:06 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know, because I never mixed rue and shrooms before I had aya. After discovering ayahuasca, my shroom sessions often resembled my ayahuasca experciences. Since then, I often purge on mushrooms, although I never feel as sick as I sometimes feel on aya. But to me, rue+shrooms definitely has an ayahuasca touch to it. YMMV :smile:

Chemically at least it makes sense. Rue contains harmala alkaloids very similar to those found in ayahuasca, and psilocybin and psilocin are 4-PO-DMT and 4-HO-DMT respectively. So just a few atoms away, I guess.


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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: Aldous]
    #22514350 - 11/12/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You're chasing the dragon. Why not take 3g and give 3g to a friend? Also there is a big difference between 5g vs 6g lemon + rue. Especially if you're not in the same environment etc. Woudln't advise it as your next move.


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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: Black_Sunset]
    #22516072 - 11/12/15 10:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

It looks like its all going down tomorrow I have 3 people going in with me. We each will have 3.5 grams and the rue will be 5 grams each. That's what I did with aya 5 grams for each person and it worked well. Im going to be helping the other 2 people with the trip im not a novice and should be able to keep them under control. They have each had a few trips with mushrooms but this will be the furthest for both of them. I picked them because they use mushrooms as a healing tool they have a lot of pain and I have helped them in the past.
Im assuming tomorrow will be mixed emotions and a lot of stuff will be discussed but this should be a step up for all of us. I have guided others in trips before but never on this level of a dose. I think it will be ok though their not coming to party or anything but they do want healing so im comfortable with giving them this level dose.


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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: FaceMelt]
    #22516166 - 11/12/15 10:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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FaceMelt said:
It looks like its all going down tomorrow I have 3 people going in with me. We each will have 3.5 grams and the rue will be 5 grams each. That's what I did with aya 5 grams for each person and it worked well. Im going to be helping the other 2 people with the trip im not a novice and should be able to keep them under control. They have each had a few trips with mushrooms but this will be the furthest for both of them. I picked them because they use mushrooms as a healing tool they have a lot of pain and I have helped them in the past.
Im assuming tomorrow will be mixed emotions and a lot of stuff will be discussed but this should be a step up for all of us. I have guided others in trips before but never on this level of a dose. I think it will be ok though their not coming to party or anything but they do want healing so im comfortable with giving them this level dose.




I would advise strongly against giving this dose to anyone who isn't very experienced with mushrooms. 5 grams of rue could easily multiply the perceived strength by 3-4x, putting you into the 9-14 gram territory. Even if the rue only doubles the strength of the trip, you're looking at the equivalent of a quarter ounce of mushrooms, definitely a serious dose. Keep in mind that if things go south, you're in for an extended journey too.

I recommend starting off low and working your way up slowly. Maybe two grams of each to test the waters. Until you have some actual experience with this combination, speculation as to what you and your friends can handle is mostly pointless.


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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: Starless]
    #22516231 - 11/12/15 11:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Yea man that's going to be a complete ego death experience. If those shrooms are potent at all hold onto you're fucking hat. And again explain to everyone that you guys probably won't be able to function for a good while


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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22516592 - 11/13/15 01:34 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I highly highly highly recommend dropping the rue dose down to 3g.
You'll get to where you want no problems but that much rue + mushrooms is likely to make you quite nauseous. It'd be very different to doing 5g rue + DMT  on your stomach.


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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: Pass the Myce]
    #22516880 - 11/13/15 06:19 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Well it sounds irasbonsible to dose them like that so I won't but I'm doseing myself with the rue as well as the 8th I'll let you guys know how it goes.


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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: FaceMelt]
    #22517158 - 11/13/15 08:37 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

:feelshighman::takingnotes:


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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22519697 - 11/13/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I can't find my mushrooms I'm pissed off. I have been having a bad day I think it's because it's Friday the 13th but I did trip on LSA last Friday the 13th. But I don't think today's the right day to trip idk I'll definitely do it soon though. I think I got high and put them somewhere but idk where. Either that or my friends took them.


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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: FaceMelt]
    #22521051 - 11/14/15 03:34 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Aw that sucks man I'm sure you'll find them and have them at the right time.
So what was your final dose of rue and shrooms you decided on?


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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: Pass the Myce]
    #22521793 - 11/14/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

3.5 and 3.5 seems right. Idk I think I should stop planning trips and just let them happen. Tripping is unpredictable anyway.


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