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FaceMelt
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Is It Possible I Would Go Insane?
#22498273 - 11/08/15 10:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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So I had 5 grams about a month ago and it really had me gone, I did not think I was ever coming back. The visuals were incredibly strong and I loved every part of it (even losing my mind but i'm sure you all understand ). But I still find myself wanting to go further and I have about 6 grams of cubes left from my last grow. I also have some syrian rue and a lemon so I was thinking of lemon taking 6 grams and eating rue 30 minutes prior to all this.
I am no stranger to mushrooms but this has me worried. Do you guys think this could make me go insane I have tripped on almost every kind of psychedelic for years and years but I have never lemon teked over 3 grams and never combined rue with anything other than DMT. Its just the mushrooms are mad with me if that makes any since its like everytime I trip I already know what's going to happen and they have become slightly boring. I don't think they want to show me new things so I figured a does this high with rue and lemon tek will put me into a full blown trip something I find no psychedelic doing anymore.
Honestly on my last trip I was thinking of my life and realized I used to many psychedelics and their no longer interesting because i've done them so much now its just boring same old same old. I just really need a trip to rock my world.
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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: FaceMelt]
#22498299 - 11/08/15 10:14 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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So the last time you tripped was a month ago? If you're experiences are becoming boring then I would wait another week or two, maybe even a month. Give yourself some time to slip back into your skin a bit more before slipping out again.
As far as the combination you're considering, I would either skip out on the lemon juice and just add a little syrian rue, or go without syrian rue and cut down the dose.
Maybe lemon tek 4 grams, and then eat two more grams if you don't go far enough.
If you're going to eat 6 grams and combine with rue, then you won't need much of the syrian rue to spice things up.
If you go that route I would suggest a sitter. Perhaps eat a small bit of rue and wait for the effects to set in before eating the mushrooms. If it's not what you want then you can try smoking a little bit of the rue seeds to bump up your harmala dose.
As far as the likelihood of going insane; it's unlikely that you would unless you have a predisposition to mental illness. In which case, you shouldn't be using psychedelics at all.
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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: Acaterpillar]
#22498358 - 11/08/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Im worried I do but if I did I should already be insane. My sister has been doing insane amounts of LSD for the past year and she is now in a mental institution. This happened last month apparently she is delusional I talked to her and I can tell somethings wrong. But I am older than her and I have been using psychedelics a lot longer. Im worried though because she lost her mind from all the LSD but she was eating upwards of 50 tabs every day for about 3 weeks. She has not been sane since she is slowly coming back but still I can tell somethings wrong with her. I have never lost it though and I have done lots of DMT and mushrooms over the years but my sister lost it because she started doing it every day. I think she will get better she has been improving so I think she just burned herself out I dont think its in our genes. But if it was in our genes im sure I would have lost it a long time ago.
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Acaterpillar
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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: FaceMelt]
#22498365 - 11/08/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is there a history of mental illness in your family?
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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: Acaterpillar]
#22498385 - 11/08/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not on my moms side but dad was adopted so im not sure we dont know his parents. But I have been doing this stuff for at least 10 years now and I am honestly a better person from it. I dont have problems with it but my sister did its just if I where to lose it why would I have not done so already? She did lose it though so I have been worried.
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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: FaceMelt]
#22498405 - 11/08/15 10:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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There are so many factors that can cause a psyche to snap that it's hard to figure out why one occurred or why one hasn't occurred yet.
I had a friend who I tripped on large doses of LSD with about a hundred times over the course of three years. The last experience we had together he completely lost it.
His parents had to commit him to a mental institute. He stayed there for several months, and was having serious delusions afterwards for about a year and a half.
I'm not saying you should stop your work with entheogens. I'm just advising some caution. I consider myself relatively sane, and even I have had a mental breakdown for a few weeks after a traumatic experience.
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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: Acaterpillar]
#22498408 - 11/08/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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what happened to your sis?
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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: Peyote Road]
#22498458 - 11/08/15 10:49 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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6grams isn't 50 hits a day dude you're good have a blast 
Good luck with your sis maybe bring her some mushrooms at the hospital and have her dose the peeps. Yeah.
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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: filthyknees]
#22498551 - 11/08/15 11:13 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nah she really cant handle a trip anymore. She basically was dating my friend who has a lot of LSD and they began tripping all the time. She was eating a 10 stip at least once every couple weeks for the last year and then she stole a lot of his acid and ate it all in about 2 weeks. Then she showed up at my parents house and they called me saying she was dancing in front of their house. They took her to the ER and now she is in a residential facility. I visited her and she was telling me about how nothing was real anymore and she didn't recognize me. However she is closer to wear my parents live and they visit her all the time she is doing a lot better and they think she just took so much its taking a while for her to come down. My old friend is seriously pissed off though she ate about $5,000 worth of acid and it was all his.
Luckily my friend is not to mad about it because she went crazy and all he said it was just karma and even though that's my sister I would be pissed if she took all my acid too. But im not giving her anything anymore we did DMT together a few times but she gets carried away with everything and I cant help her misuse this stuff. But I will do this soon I had some 4-aco about 6 days ago so im going to wait a bit longer in case of tolerance. Idk though I have a feeling I will be going to the moon and back tolerance or no tolerance. But this should be what im looking for I just really need to do something new im getting bored with classic psychedelics in general.
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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: FaceMelt] 1
#22498777 - 11/09/15 12:47 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you're not experiencing any magic from tripping, on top of your sister going crazy, my advice is to stop tripping for a long while. You're more experienced than me, but I feel like I wad going a little crazy when I was doing heavy doses for a year. I'm fine and happily sober from psyches now, but I'd be willing to trip again maybe in a few months or so. Give it a little time, because I'd be a little worried if my own family member went crazy.
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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: FaceMelt]
#22499039 - 11/09/15 05:05 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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FaceMelt said: Nah she really cant handle a trip anymore. She basically was dating my friend who has a lot of LSD and they began tripping all the time. She was eating a 10 stip at least once every couple weeks for the last year and then she stole a lot of his acid and ate it all in about 2 weeks. Then she showed up at my parents house and they called me saying she was dancing in front of their house. They took her to the ER and now she is in a residential facility. I visited her and she was telling me about how nothing was real anymore and she didn't recognize me. However she is closer to wear my parents live and they visit her all the time she is doing a lot better and they think she just took so much its taking a while for her to come down. My old friend is seriously pissed off though she ate about $5,000 worth of acid and it was all his.
Luckily my friend is not to mad about it because she went crazy and all he said it was just karma and even though that's my sister I would be pissed if she took all my acid too. But im not giving her anything anymore we did DMT together a few times but she gets carried away with everything and I cant help her misuse this stuff. But I will do this soon I had some 4-aco about 6 days ago so im going to wait a bit longer in case of tolerance. Idk though I have a feeling I will be going to the moon and back tolerance or no tolerance. But this should be what im looking for I just really need to do something new im getting bored with classic psychedelics in general.
...Damn!... .....try like 10g lemon tek....
.....let that should,uh, about do it!
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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: FaceMelt]
#22499077 - 11/09/15 05:50 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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My advice, take it or don't
Have one last hurrah blast off into your mind and the psychedelic realm, do what you need to do, have an awesomely deep experience.
And then, take a break. A decent break. Use what you know to better your life for a few months and be productive. Set your life up a bit more. Further your creativity and self belief - knowing that when the time comes you'll be welcomed back to the psychedelic realm again.
When that time comes I'll be sending all my good vibes your way man. Good luck!
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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: FaceMelt]
#22500187 - 11/09/15 12:13 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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FaceMelt said: Im worried I do but if I did I should already be insane. My sister has been doing insane amounts of LSD for the past year and she is now in a mental institution. This happened last month apparently she is delusional I talked to her and I can tell somethings wrong. But I am older than her and I have been using psychedelics a lot longer. Im worried though because she lost her mind from all the LSD but she was eating upwards of 50 tabs every day for about 3 weeks. She has not been sane since she is slowly coming back but still I can tell somethings wrong with her. I have never lost it though and I have done lots of DMT and mushrooms over the years but my sister lost it because she started doing it every day. I think she will get better she has been improving so I think she just burned herself out I dont think its in our genes. But if it was in our genes im sure I would have lost it a long time ago.
tolerance would build so fast man that wouldnt even work after a while. and unless she knows someone making it thats like 200 bucks every day
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FaceMelt
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Well I will more than likely do this big dose then I will lay off them for a while. I dont want to give up pot though but im fine with takeing a long break. Idk if I feel the need to do more after this (wich I doubt I will for a few months) then I will do something like sanpedro or ayahuasca but after this trip im sure I wont feel the need to do more shrooms. Part of my problem with shrooms is I thoroughly enjoy growing them and I have so many I eat them to often. I got my last flush months ago and have been eating my stash away. This is my last 6 grams after this I will probably help my friend grow and he can keep them.
And about my sister her boyfriend had all the acid she stole it from him. I don't know where he gets it or how he gets it but I know I shouldn't say he moves it from point a to point b so he justs eats it . My friends got connections and it make him a lot of money. But my sister stole a large amount and he was obviously angry but even that much was not a big deal for him. I dont really want to talk about him though we aren't the only ones looking at this site.
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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: FaceMelt]
#22500988 - 11/09/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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i feel it. yea man ive known a few people who get like that. my guy went kind of crazy on it too tripping multiple times a week and just came out spun as fuck. he has problems talking clearly after devouring ounces of MDMA in like a few months. he ate like 3000 mics and couldnt read for over a week. people with that much disregard just scare me.
i hope your sister recovers sending good vibes
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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: FaceMelt]
#22501027 - 11/09/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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In all honesty im not sure she even ate all of it all I know is she took my friends liquid and a couple sheets of blotter and was missing for 3 weeks. She may have eaten it all but it was at least half a gram of LSD. She didn't have any of it when she was found at my parents house so im not sure what happened. She will not talk about it and doesn't understand me very well when I asked her about it. Its like she is stuck in her own world and cant get out. She must have walked 50 miles or something my parents house is a couple towns away and she did not have a car. I live in another state though so I can only vist her so often it takes me a while to drive up thier. I might go see her thanksgiving I hope to god she comes back. But if anyone finds a large bottle of clear gatorade it may just be LSD I doubt she could have drank the whole thing im only assuming she was doseing that high because she is so far gone.
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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: FaceMelt]
#22501228 - 11/09/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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in my experience people that go out that far usually come back if they have a semi stable mind, i know the feeling of loosing touch with reality and its no joke. she could have traded all that L for some other substance im kind of interested in this story, how old is your sister?
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FaceMelt
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She is now 25 and my friend is my age (28) I doubt she would have traded the acid for anything. They both are really into it he made it his life's work after we got out of highschool. My sister started doing psychedelics at 17 she has had mushrooms DMT and LSD as well as MDMA. I only gave her the mushrooms DMT and LSD, I personally don't like MDMA its messed with a lot of my friends. But she really likes the MDMA and LSD just like my friend. So one day I was visiting her and we went to my friends party he had invited me and I brought her along because I knew she would enjoy it. So they meet and she ended up dating him and living at his house for a good bit until recently when she took his stash and left.
My friend said she has been acting weird for a couple months now and I guess she snapped and ran off. I love my sister but she really irritates me sometimes she always gets carried away. When I was living with my parents I would smoke weed almost every day and I never once got caught, my sister does it a few times and ends up bringing it to school and getting arrested. She just doesn't think things through I think that's why she took all his acid but im not sure. She should get better I really hope she does but im not giving her anymore drugs at all she cant handle anything.
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Rebelutionsssss said:
i feel it. yea man ive known a few people who get like that. my guy went kind of crazy on it too tripping multiple times a week and just came out spun as fuck. he has problems talking clearly after devouring ounces of MDMA in like a few months. he ate like 3000 mics and couldnt read for over a week. people with that much disregard just scare me.
i hope your sister recovers sending good vibes
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Re: Is It Possible I Would Go Insane? [Re: FaceMelt]
#22505118 - 11/10/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I am no stranger to mushrooms but this has me worried. Do you guys think this could make me go insane
If I take very high doses I become delusional, usually some grandiose feeling that I have died and become God, or the world is being annihilated by aliens and our consciousness will be uploaded into.......well you get the picture. I like the aliens-themed trips, I just let them get on with it; if I'm halfway gone I can enjoy the trip like a movie but part of me thinks its real.
That's different from being delusional when sober, which to be honest wouldn't be an immense surprise if you were taking heavy, frequent doses of LSD (doesn't mean its permanent, may sort itself out naturally with a decent break from tripping).
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she took my friends liquid and a couple sheets of blotter and was missing for 3 weeks. She may have eaten it all
Well if someone doesn't behave strangely for a while after doing that I'd be surprised. They're not going to turn up acting 100% sober.
I don't really understand how this:
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So I had 5 grams about a month ago and it really had me gone, I did not think I was ever coming back. The visuals were incredibly strong and I loved every part of it (even losing my mind but i'm sure you all understand
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its like everytime I trip I already know what's going to happen and they have become slightly boring
If you've had a few boring trips since your 5g experience then you probably just need to space the trips out a bit more. If you have some concerns about going too far then maybe skip the rue, just take a big dose (6g or whatever), maybe lemon tek if you want a more extreme experience, and enjoy it (I don't know much about rue but enough to be a bit wary of it magnifying the effects - see this train wreck) for example).
-------------------- I wrote that, but I meant something else
Edited by Aldebaran (11/10/15 01:33 PM)
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