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akira_akuma
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Re: Gun Control. Watch what happens when guns are banned. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22497757 - 11/08/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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another day on the Gunner-- i mean the Shroomery.
will guns be banned today! tomorrow! who knows! lets discuss it again!
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Prisoner#1
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Re: Gun Control. Watch what happens when guns are banned. [Re: akira_akuma]
#22497766 - 11/08/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: another day on the Gunner-- i mean the Shroomery.
will guns be banned today! tomorrow! who knows! lets discuss it again!
not in the US
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akira_akuma
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Re: Gun Control. Watch what happens when guns are banned. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22497768 - 11/08/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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oh yeah, Shithead is like totally Canuck, just trying to cause dissent.
whoa, wait a minute here....
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Re: Gun Control. Watch what happens when guns are banned. [Re: akira_akuma]
#22497772 - 11/08/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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only chance guns get banned in the US is if alex jones turns out to not be crazy and they open up those fema camps
so either way your fucked because if they do take the guns its only to enslave your ass even further
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Re: Gun Control. Watch what happens when guns are banned. [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22497784 - 11/08/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah, totally dude, it's completely horrifying, watch me take on the powers that be, i won't be taken in by the debil!
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Re: Gun Control. Watch what happens when guns are banned. [Re: akira_akuma]
#22497825 - 11/08/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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And I have now not only answered it twice, but given quite an eloquent analogy as to why its not pertinent.
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Re: Gun Control. Watch what happens when guns are banned. [Re: pineninja]
#22497864 - 11/08/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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pineninja said: And I have now not only answered it twice, but given quite an eloquent analogy as to why its not pertinent.
no, you didnt answer the question unless it was when you said this
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22497620#22497620
all you did was post some crap that gave a general overview
but your answer it is pertinent because it relates to my statements
now let me ask, have assaults increased in australia since the gun ban?
how about rape, has rape increased in australia?
didnt armed robbery also see an increase for several years? something that seems to be once again on an upward trend
have there been ANY mass killings in australia since the gun ban?
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Re: Gun Control. Watch what happens when guns are banned. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22497913 - 11/08/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have figured out the big difference between your argument and mine, that is I know what the answers to most of those questions are I am convinced you do not. I also figure that if I were to give you the factual answers to these question, you will come up with some crazy nonsensical shit, and all that after if the above is a guide, not reading my post anyway which frankly would just be a waste of my time...... so ill make this one short and simple yes immediately after the ban they rose. Now riddle me this! has on average both homicide and gun crime decreased post ban?
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Re: Gun Control. Watch what happens when guns are banned. [Re: pineninja]
#22497997 - 11/08/15 09:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I know the answers, this isnt the first time this debate has occured and the data is pulled right from your crime statistics, are you going to tell me that you're right and the australia crime statistics are wrong? maybe you'll tell us that many events didnt happen regardless of what the news claims
I suspect you arent answering because you looked and you know exactly what the answers are and why I asked these questions
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Re: Gun Control. Watch what happens when guns are banned. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22498028 - 11/08/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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humans will fights amongst themselves as resources wear out. beg nestle for that water ho
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Re: Gun Control. Watch what happens when guns are banned. [Re: eehoo]
#22498151 - 11/08/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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This subject for me has not only come up in a fascinating website community, but also as an intrinsic part of my life and an issue that has moulded some of my Higher education choices. The reasons I don't feel an urgency to remedy your ignorance belies my need to help people like you understand that STATISTICS, when looked at without the shutters of preconceived ideologies, DO NOT LIE and absolutely do nothing for the arguments that you are trying to espouse.
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Re: Gun Control. Watch what happens when guns are banned. [Re: pineninja]
#22498992 - 11/09/15 03:43 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ill take Australia's murder rate which is 1/4 of the US rate.
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Re: Gun Control. Watch what happens when guns are banned. [Re: koods]
#22499294 - 11/09/15 07:44 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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move to australia then you can have everything you want
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Re: Gun Control. Watch what happens when guns are banned. [Re: koods] 1
#22499304 - 11/09/15 07:50 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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koods said: Ill take Australia's murder rate which is 1/4 of the US rate.
I'll keep my guns instead.
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Re: Gun Control. Watch what happens when guns are banned. [Re: Shiithead]
#22499331 - 11/09/15 08:00 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Most gun control people aren't talking about making guns illegal. Most of us are advocating for more strict and comprehensive background checks and registration so that there is more accountability. If you are mentally sound and not engaged in shady activity, I think you should be allowed to have whatever firearm you want.
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Re: Gun Control. Watch what happens when guns are banned. [Re: nicechrisman]
#22499402 - 11/09/15 08:32 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: Most gun control people aren't talking about making guns illegal. Most of us are advocating for more strict and comprehensive background checks and registration so that there is more accountability. If you are mentally sound and not engaged in shady activity, I think you should be allowed to have whatever firearm you want.
In Canada atleast it already takes an untimely democratic practice to get ahold of guns legally. It takes so frickin' long. Frankly violence is in the culture. Personally it's very easy for me to follow gun laws, studies and stats by subscribing to the Ontario Hunters and Anglers magazine. I have been reading it for over 5 years, and have read older editions pooping at neighbours houses. They have a fairly unbiased opinion, and leave you with the stats and for you to make up your own mind. Stricter gun laws have done exactly NOTHING for Canada except for increase taxes, and I think even worse, yes even worse than taxes, make it harder for honest Canadians to own and enjoy the practices they do with their guns.
Honest gun owners seldomly commit crimes. Its just too difficult already. Take away guns from the picture and then you have bombs, and cars and a many of ways to example violence. People are fuckin' violent in this country and im from Canada, where were easy breezin' people. The people will find a way to blow something up. You just have to deal with it. Guns are also here to stay. You can't move backwards in time. Its done, they've been invented. They will be in somebodies hands. Who's? Hopefully honest gun owners hands, but as long as they exist, I don't see guns going extinct anytime soon, honest people need to lay hold of them. Its the natural ying to the yang.
Seriously. The root of the issue is WHAT makes people violent, not what form the violence is. And yes I know you want to depreciate the problem and the violence while it exists, banning guns and making the regulations tougher than they already are, in Canada atleast, doesn't work to accomplish it. It simply doesn't work. Look up the Long Gun Regestry act in Canada if you want a LOL, and see how long of a blazing fire that abomination lasted. Seriously check it out. The smokes still smolderin' from that one and people still can't remember the stink.
Sorry Australia for being the patsy in this experiment. I see the sediment in you reactions, it really was an unfortunate big loss to your already effective gun laws. I hope Canada holds it as an example.
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Re: Gun Control. Watch what happens when guns are banned. [Re: nicechrisman]
#22499425 - 11/09/15 08:40 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: Most gun control people aren't talking about making guns illegal.
bullshit. if you're not about making guns illegal then will you be willing to fight to help New York City residents to have hand guns and concealed carry.
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Most of us are advocating for more strict and comprehensive background checks and registration so that there is more accountability.
accountability for whom, it would seem that most gun control people do not witsh to blame the criminals for killing but instead want to blame the gun, the gun did nothing, the criminal did, why not hold the criminal accountable for his actions as opposed to holding all gun owners accountable which is what these so called "common sense gun laws" actually do
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If you are mentally sound and not engaged in shady activity, I think you should be allowed to have whatever firearm you want.
so I should be able to have one of these

why do gun control advocates always use the same disproved claims about gunshow loop holes and lack of background checks, have you ever bought a gun at a gun store or a gun show? I have. the only time I dont fill out ATF background check forms is when my concealed carry permits is up to date, even if you pawn a gun that you own and return to get the gun a month later you still fill out those forms in order to reclaim your guns
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Re: Gun Control. Watch what happens when guns are banned. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22499436 - 11/09/15 08:44 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Predictable overreaction response is predictable.
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Re: Gun Control. Watch what happens when guns are banned. [Re: nicechrisman]
#22499465 - 11/09/15 08:58 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: Predictable overreaction response is predictable.
so what is it you're saying, that I shouldnt be able to own any gun that I want or that you dont want people to own guns. these were simple questions addressing the points you made
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Re: Gun Control. Watch what happens when guns are banned. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22499475 - 11/09/15 09:00 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think that you probably should be allowed to own any gun you want based on what I know about you. I think crazy fuckers shouldn't be allowed to, and I think every gun needs to be registered to the owner so that fewer guns end up in the hands of criminals. It's not that complicated. Not much different from how it is now, I just think we need to up the ante a bit for greater accountability.
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