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Re: Relationship Advice From Psychologists- Similarities vs Opposites [Re: White Beard] * 2
    #22501761 - 11/09/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

i know this is a bit of an aside now but this morning i drew an illustration inspired by whitebeard and i's discussion about growing up.. it's called 'growing up'

seems bad


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Re: Relationship Advice From Psychologists- Similarities vs Opposites [Re: Kickle]
    #22501766 - 11/09/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Tons of money for doing something requiring little skill. I'm sure lots of people would love to be in that position.


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Re: Relationship Advice From Psychologists- Similarities vs Opposites [Re: Apollop] * 1
    #22501768 - 11/09/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Kickle said:

I developed depersonalization to emotions after some emotional traumas in youth. I say this as a self-reflection, not as the result of a formal diagnosis. And my subsequent path towards re-integration has been in the form of my girlfriend. I learned to see my emotions in her. Literally. Her emotional state started to be my cue-card for self-reflection. What is she feeling? Ok, start to look for that in myself. Really start to look! And while slow to start, over time I've re-integrated some of that emotional identity.





very smart.

and yeah i can relate for sure.

ive actually gotten to a point where im no longer bothered by my depersonalization and it has come to define my personality so i'm kind of enjoying its unintentional positive attributes now




That's cool. The thing I fear is isolation over time due to lack of strong social bonds.

One guy I watched recently said that he motivates himself to go to the gym by taking inspiration from the Greek character Odysseus. In the story Odysseus, knowing that a future event will overpower his will, lashes himself to a mast. Then they sail their ship into Siren filled waters. Odysseus can hear the Sirens song but he is not moved by it, because he cannot move himself. In this way his preparations allowed him to do what his will alone would not have allowed him to do - listen to the Sirens.

So, in regards to the gym this gentlemen said that he uses prior arrangements to "lash" himself to going. He uses a social engagement as his lashing. But in order for something like that to work, one has to feel a strong pull by such a social engagement.

I think isolation can be damaging. When left to oneself, one has only oneself to depend upon. And at times that is detrimental. An Odysseus without a mast to lash himself to. The Siren call will overpower.


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Re: Relationship Advice From Psychologists- Similarities vs Opposites [Re: quinn]
    #22501777 - 11/09/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Nice. Show that to your children when they're growing up to teach them about life.


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Re: Relationship Advice From Psychologists- Similarities vs Opposites [Re: White Beard]
    #22501788 - 11/09/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Tons of money for doing something requiring little skill. I'm sure lots of people would love to be in that position.




I dunno man. I think Howard Stern for example is super honest about what drives him and he describes it often, wondering if it's a big black hole within that is insatiable. Constantly desiring approval and the attention. I think over time as a celeb who has gotten high, it's hard to fade away. And pop stars fade pretty quick. Money won't curb that feeling at all IMO.


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Re: Relationship Advice From Psychologists- Similarities vs Opposites [Re: Kickle]
    #22501808 - 11/09/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

i often feel i need to lash myself to a mast in order to socialise :sadyes:


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Re: Relationship Advice From Psychologists- Similarities vs Opposites [Re: Kickle]
    #22501810 - 11/09/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe. I'd go into it just for the money, not the attention, and I'd expect to fade rather quickly. Then I'd have a nice little sum to do whatever I want to without having to worry about supporting myself.


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Re: Relationship Advice From Psychologists- Similarities vs Opposites [Re: White Beard]
    #22501824 - 11/09/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

what would you do? would you still contribute


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Re: Relationship Advice From Psychologists- Similarities vs Opposites [Re: quinn]
    #22501857 - 11/09/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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what would you do? would you still contribute




maybe. I'd probably want to stay involved in my science, but I wouldn't have to worry about it from a financial pov. I could volunteer doing field work occasionally or focus on research.

Or I could write the novel I've always have been meaning to write that no one would ever read.

Or I'd lock myself away in my room, playing games, and slowly drinking myself to death. Then I could donate my body to medical research.


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Re: Relationship Advice From Psychologists- Similarities vs Opposites [Re: White Beard]
    #22502174 - 11/09/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

yeah i think youve got the right idea, i'd be pretty similar (except the science, i dont have a science :frown:)


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