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Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking 1
#22494225 - 11/08/15 03:53 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Your hard earned tax dollars at work.
"Two men had just crossed the street when they were rushed by several Austin police officers who shoved them against a wall, punching and kneeing them while telling them to stop resisting.
When asked what crime had the men committed, one of the cops looked up and said, “crossed against the light.”
Yes, that heinous crime of jaywalking, which is taken very serious in Austin as we learned last year when the city made international news after police beat up a jogger for jaywalking.
Last Thursday police in Austin, Texas, began a “pedestrian enforcement” activity near the campus of the University of Texas, where they stopped and warned or ticketed jaywalkers.
When law enforcement officers attempted to issue a jaywalking citation to a jogger, Amanda Jo Stephen, she refused to stop. Some witnesses say she didn’t hear the officers, as she was wearing earphones. Police contend that the officers were clearly visible to her.
One way or the other, according to reports, police chased her down and detained her, at which point she became unco-operative and refused to give her name. Several officers then placed her under arrest, and she was carried, screaming into a police car and taken to jail, where she was booked for jaywalking and “failure to identify”.
Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo quickly came to the defense of the arresting officers, saying they may have been rough with the female college student, but at least they didn’t rape her.
This person absolutely took something that was as simple as ‘Austin Police – Stop!’ and decided to do everything you see on that video,” Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo said at a press conference Friday, according to Austin NPR station 90.5 KUT.
“And quite frankly she wasn’t charged with resisting. She’s lucky I wasn’t the arresting officer, because I wouldn’t have been as generous. … In other cities there’s cops who are actually committing sexual assaults on duty, so I thank God that this is what passes for a controversy in Austin, Texas,” Acevedo said.
So yes, while beating up citizens up for jaywalking might seem a bit extreme, especially since jaywalking citations are supposedly meant for safety reasons, we should be grateful that they didn’t drag the young men into a back alley and sodomize them.
Instead, they dragged one of them into the street and handcuffed him.
But who knows what they would have done had the cameras not been there.
The video was uploaded to Facebook earlier today. But the incident took place Wednesday, according to the person who posted it. " -- http://www.mintpressnews.com/two-austin-men-beaten-by-police-for-jaywalking/211075/
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: endogenous] 1
#22494234 - 11/08/15 04:06 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Haha, "just be glad we didn't rape her". fuckin texas
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Sheekle] 1
#22494308 - 11/08/15 05:22 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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The rape comment was in response to another incident. Not nearly as bad an incident, but it's still an indication that our policing policies need updating.
These are incidents that are a result of a no tolerance approach to jaywalking that's occurring between Oct. 24 through Nov. 5. Apparently the officers in the OP didn't get the memo on the end date.
[sarcasm]Here's evidence of one of the men resisting.

...and the officers due response.[/sarcasm]
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Idiot] 1
#22494384 - 11/08/15 06:18 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Who cares , theyl gotta walk back into the station and laugh at how ridicules a situation got for jaywalking. I can guarantee the other officers are making fun of the officers that started that mess right now.
Send them a fine or something instead sheesh. Laws are supposed to represent the will of the people, nobody should get beat up for jaywalking, I do live in a small town up Canadee way, but I jaywalk all the time.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Shortknight]
#22494689 - 11/08/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shortknight said: Who cares , theyl gotta walk back into the station and laugh at how ridicules a situation got for jaywalking. I can guarantee the other officers are making fun of the officers that started that mess right now.
Send them a fine or something instead sheesh. Laws are supposed to represent the will of the people, nobody should get beat up for jaywalking, I do live in a small town up Canadee way, but I jaywalk all the time.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: theonlysun81]
#22494698 - 11/08/15 08:34 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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oh well at least they're getting bullied I hear that is traumatizing
and we're officially a nation of little pansies
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#22494723 - 11/08/15 08:42 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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One of these days a guy will just say fuck it, take a 9mm out and pull as many head shots as he can before being killed.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Patlal]
#22494798 - 11/08/15 09:04 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why can't there be a rule where the reaction from the cop has to be proportional to the original crime, avoiding the whole resisting arrest bullshit? That way if someone refuses to stop for jaywalking then cops don't end up punching people in the face, they just let them go. Pick your battles, you know.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: searching]
#22494808 - 11/08/15 09:07 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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searching said: Why can't there be a rule where the reaction from the cop has to be proportional to the original crime, avoiding the whole resisting arrest bullshit? That way if someone refuses to stop for jaywalking then cops don't end up punching people in the face, they just let them go. Pick your battles, you know.
why cant there be a rule that people have to release the video from 2 minutes prior to any encounter with the police because what I see here is some dumbasses decided to disregard police order in order to get some shit on tape and become the latest "victims" of police brutality and gain their 15 minutes of fame
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22494828 - 11/08/15 09:12 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sure, I'm OK with that rule also.
You're right with our current laws the cops didn't do anything wrong. What I'm saying is the laws are fucked up.
Cops shouldn't have the ultimate authority to say "stop right now or I'll beat the shit out of you" just for jaywalking. Murder, stealing, assault.... Yes. I'm just saying there needs to be a limit to it.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Patlal]
#22494832 - 11/08/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal said: One of these days a guy will just say fuck it, take a 9mm out and pull as many head shots as he can before being killed.
People already do that often enough.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Achillita]
#22494840 - 11/08/15 09:16 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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they should've given him a death smile for jay walking.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: millzy]
#22494850 - 11/08/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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What we are witnessing is the militarization of our police force. They are no longer taught that they are public servants here to set an example for us. It is now taught a "Us against them" mentality. I have lived with people training to be cop and let me tell you their personality is some of the most vile and disgusting attitudes I have ever seen. These cops could care less what crime they committed if you could even call jaywalking a crime. All they wanted was the blood rush of beating someone up and knowing they could get away with it. One of my buddies dad is a lawyer, he's an older gentleman and without me telling my opinion of pigs I asked him how he felt about cops. He responded along the lines of "losers in high school that swore one day they would be the bully". We need to drastically change our military... oh wait I mean police force.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: searching]
#22494882 - 11/08/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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searching said: Sure, I'm OK with that rule also.
You're right with our current laws the cops didn't do anything wrong. What I'm saying is the laws are fucked up.
Cops shouldn't have the ultimate authority to say "stop right now or I'll beat the shit out of you" just for jaywalking. Murder, stealing, assault.... Yes. I'm just saying there needs to be a limit to it.
so you're proposing that every cop have a police monitor, a person standing there telling them what's appropriate action for what ever they're doing. that should go over really well with those of us that are paying for the added manpower
there's interaction time between the time the video starts and the time the incident began, what we do know from interaction on the video is that the cops had warned these people not to do something and they continued to do what they were warned against doing... should the cops simply ignore that shit even though the action of those people disobeying the order run the risk of being injure or others coming to harm because of their actions?
something else we know is that both of these guys that were being arrested were being uncooperative, at what pint d we stop blaming the goons for being goons and start blaming the assholes for being assholes. the cops are merely reacting to something that was easily avoidable had the two assholes simply listened from the start because their lack of cooperation started before the video started recording
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22494893 - 11/08/15 09:38 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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yes they should wear a police camera that is always running 24/7 we have that technology
anyone who is against that is simply a police officer who enjoys his power trip
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: The Doobie Dude]
#22494898 - 11/08/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Doobie Dude said: What we are witnessing is the militarization of our police force. They are no longer taught that they are public servants here to set an example for us. It is now taught a "Us against them" mentality. I have lived with people training to be cop and let me tell you their personality is some of the most vile and disgusting attitudes I have ever seen. These cops could care less what crime they committed if you could even call jaywalking a crime. All they wanted was the blood rush of beating someone up and knowing they could get away with it. One of my buddies dad is a lawyer, he's an older gentleman and without me telling my opinion of pigs I asked him how he felt about cops. He responded along the lines of "losers in high school that swore one day they would be the bully". We need to drastically change our military... oh wait I mean police force.
what I'm witnessing is the liberals doing what liberals do, they bash the cops because the dickheads dont want to listen to what the cops said. "dont rape that woman!" 'fuck you pig, I'll do what I want' so the perp gets beat when he resists and the liberals blame the cop
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: The Doobie Dude]
#22494904 - 11/08/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Doobie Dude said: yes they should wear a police camera that is always running 24/7 we have that technology
anyone who is against that is simply a police officer who enjoys his power trip
anyone that says the cops are abusing their power is is a child molester raping small children and house pets
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22494914 - 11/08/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Doobie Dude said: yes they should wear a police camera that is always running 24/7 we have that technology
anyone who is against that is simply a police officer who enjoys his power trip
anyone that says the cops are abusing their power is is a child molester raping small children and house pets
Arent you a mod or something cause that sure sounds like flaming to me.
Abuse of a small piece of power, seems like it to me
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: The Doobie Dude]
#22494917 - 11/08/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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The Doobie Dude said: yes they should wear a police camera that is always running 24/7 we have that technology
anyone who is against that is simply a police officer who enjoys his power trip
anyone that says the cops are abusing their power is is a child molester raping small children and house pets
Arent you a mod or something cause that sure sounds like flaming to me.
Abuse of a small piece of power, seems like it to me
isnt that the same argument you gave? do you not like it when your own argument is used the same way you used it?
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22494921 - 11/08/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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What were the charges besides resisting arrest? That's all I'm asking. There doesn't have to be a camera on the cops at all times to tell us that. If they were only trying to enforce jaywalking laws then they shouldn't be allowed to say "stop or I'll beat the shit out of you". That's all I'm saying. Can we agree to that?
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: searching]
#22495097 - 11/08/15 10:42 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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searching said: What were the charges besides resisting arrest? That's all I'm asking. There doesn't have to be a camera on the cops at all times to tell us that. If they were only trying to enforce jaywalking laws then they shouldn't be allowed to say "stop or I'll beat the shit out of you". That's all I'm saying. Can we agree to that?
I never heard them say "stop or I'll beat the shit out of you", do you believe that a cops should be able to stop somone for jay walking or other minor infraction because it seems you dont believe this t be the case
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: endogenous]
#22495153 - 11/08/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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The police are doing Gods work, jaywalkers are terrible people. Crosswalks help society function like a well maintained machine.
In the words of Sgt. Barnes from "Platoon"; if the machine breaks down, we all break down.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22495239 - 11/08/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pris, how are you defending these cops clearly punching and kicking this guy? That's far as fuck out of line.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Sheekle]
#22495555 - 11/08/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: Pris, how are you defending these cops clearly punching and kicking this guy? That's far as fuck out of line.
are you telling me you support pedophelia?
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22495561 - 11/08/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: Pris, how are you defending these cops clearly punching and kicking this guy? That's far as fuck out of line.
are you telling me you support pedophelia?
Now wayer out of line lol What the heck are you getting at?
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Shortknight] 1
#22495607 - 11/08/15 01:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm just working by the rules that doobie dude layed down
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22495767 - 11/08/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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One day I hope I can see a video like that where the entire scene is filmed, not just the arrest.
Was the kid being a smart ass? Was he taunting the cops? Was he previously known by the cops?
You know. context.
Looking at a video that begins with a cop punching a guy to the ground and having 0 idea of what went down first throws everything off. Did the guy argue like a jackass for 10 minutes before the cop lost patience? We never know that part of the story.
I don't imagine a cop just walking down thesidewalk and suddenly beating the shit out of someone for no reason. The cop just woke up that morning and decided to throw his life away? I don't think so...
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
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searching said: What were the charges besides resisting arrest? That's all I'm asking. There doesn't have to be a camera on the cops at all times to tell us that. If they were only trying to enforce jaywalking laws then they shouldn't be allowed to say "stop or I'll beat the shit out of you". That's all I'm saying. Can we agree to that?
I never heard them say "stop or I'll beat the shit out of you", do you believe that a cops should be able to stop somone for jay walking or other minor infraction because it seems you dont believe this t be the case
In effect, that is what they are saying. If you don't stop I will use violence to make you stop. No, they shouldn't be able to use force to make someone stop after jaywalking.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: searching]
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searching said: What were the charges besides resisting arrest? That's all I'm asking. There doesn't have to be a camera on the cops at all times to tell us that. If they were only trying to enforce jaywalking laws then they shouldn't be allowed to say "stop or I'll beat the shit out of you". That's all I'm saying. Can we agree to that?
I never heard them say "stop or I'll beat the shit out of you", do you believe that a cops should be able to stop somone for jay walking or other minor infraction because it seems you dont believe this t be the case
In effect, that is what they are saying. If you don't stop I will use violence to make you stop. No, they shouldn't be able to use force to make someone stop after jaywalking.
no, that's simply the narrative you put on it
your views are exactly the type of views that have escalated these situations to what they are, people violating minor laws, refusing to simply take the citation and it becomes a situation where they have a felony resisting charge instead of a $15 fine for jay walking
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Patlal] 1
#22496313 - 11/08/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal said: One day I hope I can see a video like that where the entire scene is filmed, not just the arrest.
Was the kid being a smart ass? Was he taunting the cops? Was he previously known by the cops?
You know. context.
None of those contexts justify assault.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: searching]
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searching said: What were the charges besides resisting arrest? That's all I'm asking. There doesn't have to be a camera on the cops at all times to tell us that. If they were only trying to enforce jaywalking laws then they shouldn't be allowed to say "stop or I'll beat the shit out of you". That's all I'm saying. Can we agree to that?
I never heard them say "stop or I'll beat the shit out of you", do you believe that a cops should be able to stop somone for jay walking or other minor infraction because it seems you dont believe this t be the case
In effect, that is what they are saying. If you don't stop I will use violence to make you stop. No, they shouldn't be able to use force to make someone stop after jaywalking.
Yes, they should.
Jaywalkers, addicts and litterbugs are terrible human beings. The second deepest level of hell is reserved for jaywalkers. Its in Dantes 'The Divine Comedy '
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: DieCommie]
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Patlal said: One day I hope I can see a video like that where the entire scene is filmed, not just the arrest.
Was the kid being a smart ass? Was he taunting the cops? Was he previously known by the cops?
You know. context.
None of those contexts justify assault.
what about resisting or obstruction?
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Was the kid being a smart ass? Was he taunting the cops? Was he previously known by the cops?
You know. context.
None of those contexts justify assault.
what about resisting or obstruction?
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Patlal]
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The account from the video taker (friend of "victims") is that they walked across a barricaded street and apparently kicked/jumped on/parkour off of a jersey barrier/blockade. The police requested them to stop. An individual said something like "No, fuck you!" and they all finished crossing the street and the events in the video began.
To my knowledge no statement from the police has been released from their point of view, and no third party witness has made a public statement.
I'm in the boat of police reactions proportional to the crime on this one. Based on the account from the friend (unsubstantiated as it is) it seems like over use of force was used here. If the group had immediately complied with the police officer's orders it would have negated the city wide police crackdown on jaywalking by leaving a group of pedestrians stationary in middle of a street. Alowing them to finish walking across the street and approaching them safely would have been more appropriate. We have no measure of how many times the police requested them to stop but assuming (yeah, I know) it was only once their reaction was unproportional to the crime, even if they said fuck you.


These two gifs are separated by just a few seconds the one where he's complying and putting his hands against the wall happened first. This is why the police's response was unproportional.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Idiot]
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horse shit... they could have simply crossed back the way they came and shit would have been fine, instead they took the "I know my rights" approach and continued their quest to disregard the cop's instructions and instead of handling shit like adults they decided to hash is out in the street, as several others had pointed out they're clearly shown resisting and in today's environment we all know what that gets you, the cops call it 'pain compliance techniques', libtards call it a beating when in reality this little pussies didnt get close to a beating, one guy got punched in the arm a few times HOLY FUCKING SHIT, EXECUTE THE COPS FOR PUNCHING SOMEONE IN THE ARM!!!!
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
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I edited my post with gifs, I suggest to take a look at it again.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Idiot]
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gifs that show somoene resisting and the cop trying to maintain control of that person, is that supposed to prove something, hell, you even stated the guy was resisting in this posts... tell us, what happens when you resist against the cops?
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
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I'm sorry sarcasm seems to be lost on you.
It seems as if the only thing he is resisting is being tackled through a plate glass window.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Patlal said: One day I hope I can see a video like that where the entire scene is filmed, not just the arrest.
Was the kid being a smart ass? Was he taunting the cops? Was he previously known by the cops?
You know. context.
None of those contexts justify assault.
what about resisting or obstruction?
Nope. The only time violence is justified is in self defense.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Idiot]
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It seems as if the only thing he is resisting is being tackled through a plate glass window.
so his resisting wasnt resisting.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
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He was resisting assault, not resisting arrest. Every human has the right to resist assault.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: DieCommie]
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Patlal said: One day I hope I can see a video like that where the entire scene is filmed, not just the arrest.
Was the kid being a smart ass? Was he taunting the cops? Was he previously known by the cops?
You know. context.
None of those contexts justify assault.
what about resisting or obstruction?
Nope. The only time violence is justified is in self defense.
maybe it's time you take up the call to be a cop so you can show everyone how to accomplish that
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
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So he should have allowed himself to be tackled face first through a window? He should resist his instinctual urge to protect the delicate organs in his face that allow him to perceive and communicate with the world at large? He should accept a massive loss in quality of life to uphold the idea that police have a hard job?
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: DieCommie]
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He should have gotten out of the car when the cop told him to. Do you think every douchebag who breaks the law should be immune from forcible arrest if they just don't feel like it?
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
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high in relation to what, mayonnaise?
No, high in relation to the upper-limit set in police hiring requirements.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said: He should have gotten out of the car when the cop told him to.
Do you even know what happened?
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Idiot]
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Not really. Do you?
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: zappaisgod]
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No motor vehicles were involved in the arrest. The law breakers, which no one is debating here they broke the law, were never in a car. The police were never in a car, they were on bikes.
What is being debated is the over use of force.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Idiot]
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So what was the window about?
If I break the law and the cop observes me but I tell him to fuck off and die I aint giving him ID to cite me does that mean he has to accede to my wishes and just walk away without doing what is required to ensure that the law is enforced?
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: zappaisgod]
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Persistence. They are police officers and the group was not actively threatening them.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: DieCommie]
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Although the cop said the reason for the assault and arrest was that the victims had "crossed against the light", it seems that the real reason was because someone from the group cursed at the cops.
It all started when a group of five friends, all in their mid-20s, were walking early Friday morning. “We were walking across the street, the sign said do not walk, but (the) lights were already turning yellow and (the) streets were blocked off so we kept walking,” Rolando Ramiro, who recorded and posted the video, told the American-Statesman. The police then asked for IDs, but two of them responded by yelling an expletive. That apparently offended the cops, and lots of officers started approaching.
The video begins with three officers trying to detain one of the men. At one point, one officer appears to put him in a chokehold, and another one can clearly be seen punching his arm. Meanwhile the person is on the ground, demanding to know why he is being detained. “I’m handcuffed already, you can get your knees off me,” the man on the ground says at one point. One of their friends, a woman, starts getting involved and demands to know why he is being taken to jail. “Crossing against the light,” the officer can be heard saying. That woman and another man were also handcuffed and arrested in a violent manner, even though it doesn’t seem like they did anything to resist at any point. One of the three people arrested was charged with resisting arrest.
“As is standard protocol, the Chain of Command will review the Response to Resistance and the incident to determine what led up to the events captured in the video and whether the officer’s actions were in compliance with APD policy,” the Austin Police Department said. -- http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/11/07/video_austin_police_tackle_punch_and_handcuff_unarmed_men_for_jaywalking.html
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Idiot]
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that's funny I live in round rock which is basically Austin but more conservative if you get pulled over with anything it ass is going to jail. there's this highway across from my apartment and I have to cross it to get to tge supermarket. I go when you least expect it I can judge the distance very well and only need a small opening to cross it . I start running before the first car passes me I cross right behind the first car and cross one more lane .... it's a lot of fun lol
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Idiot]
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Idiot said: Persistence. They are police officers and the group was not actively threatening them.
so you're of the opinion that non violent criminals should simply be followed and pestered until they relent and allow the cop to cite them, since burglary suspects are also non violent shouldnt that also apply to them? I'm sure loads of criminals will be apprehended with your technique, so many in fact that it should be applied to murderers and rapists as long as they dont act violently towards the cops
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Kinko]
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Kinko said: that's funny I live in round rock which is basically Austin but more conservative if you get pulled over with anything it ass is going to jail. there's this highway across from my apartment and I have to cross it to get to tge supermarket. I go when you least expect it I can judge the distance very well and only need a small opening to cross it . I start running before the first car passes me I cross right behind the first car and cross one more lane .... it's a lot of fun lol
it doesnt always work out that way... this is how jay walkers should be handled as long as it's not the cops doing the dirty work and since the jay wlakers were breaking the laws, they should have no recourse
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: zappaisgod]
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Forgot about this.
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zappaisgod said: So what was the window about?
 Here you can see a jaywalker hands raised walking towards the window with the officers hands on his shoulders. A few feet from the window the officer changes his grip into a half nelson and begins to perform a take down. The jaywalker is surprised by this escalation as he was complying with the officers physical direction and sees that the take down is heading towards the window. In an attempt prevent his face from breaking the window and potentially falling onto broken shards of glass he rolls his shoulder towards the window. The officer being tied up in a half nelson gets spun into the window as well.
Yes, there are a lot of assumption on motive in this description but I don't believe my synopsis is too far fetched. So, in essence the jaywalkers attempt at self preservation was read as resistance.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
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it doesnt always work out that way... this is how jay walkers should be handled as long as it's not the cops doing the dirty work and since the jay wlakers were breaking the laws, they should have no recourse
for me it has always worked out that way , rain and all.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Kinko]
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Oh and that guy in the video deserved that i always run like hell when jaywalking , the cars dlmt even have to break
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
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This is criminal neglect on that officers part. Two wrongs don't make a right. The jaywalker was jaywalking, yes. When he realizes the error of his way by getting hit by a car he get a bit of pep in his step. Then the driver attempts to kill him.
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Idiot said: Persistence. They are police officers and the group was not actively threatening them.
so you're of the opinion that non violent criminals should simply be followed and pestered until they relent and allow the cop to cite them, since burglary suspects are also non violent shouldnt that also apply to them? I'm sure loads of criminals will be apprehended with your technique, so many in fact that it should be applied to murderers and rapists as long as they dont act violently towards the cops
"come on mister criminal, let me just put these handcuffs on you, it'll be fun"
I've said we don't know how many times they were told to stop, but given that they were literately stepping up the curb of a small road at the beginning of the video that only gives the officers the time it takes for a healthy young adult to cross a street to say something. Now, how much time does a young adult take to cross a street and in that time how many times can an officer make a request to stop?
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Idiot]
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Idiot said: If the group had immediately complied with the police officer's orders it would have negated the city wide police crackdown on jaywalking by leaving a group of pedestrians stationary in middle of a street.
horse shit... they could have simply crossed back the way they came and shit would have been fine, instead they took the "I know my rights" approach and continued their quest to disregard the cop's instructions and instead of handling shit like adults they decided to hash is out in the street, as several others had pointed out they're clearly shown resisting and in today's environment we all know what that gets you, the cops call it 'pain compliance techniques', libtards call it a beating when in reality this little pussies didnt get close to a beating, one guy got punched in the arm a few times HOLY FUCKING SHIT, EXECUTE THE COPS FOR PUNCHING SOMEONE IN THE ARM!!!!
as I said before, we've become a nation of pansies
HOLY FUCKING SHIT, EXECUTE THE MAN FOR CROSSING THE STREET! In no way was that an appropriate level of force the bloke was not resisting! Better PANSIES than FASCISTS imo.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Idiot]
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 Here you can see a jaywalker hands raised walking towards the window with the officers hands on his shoulders. A few feet from the window the officer changes his grip into a half nelson and begins to perform a take down..
the take down doesnt begin until the guy starts turning around on the cop
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
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What was the purpose of the half nelson?
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
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searching said: Why can't there be a rule where the reaction from the cop has to be proportional to the original crime, avoiding the whole resisting arrest bullshit? That way if someone refuses to stop for jaywalking then cops don't end up punching people in the face, they just let them go. Pick your battles, you know.
why cant there be a rule that people have to release the video from 2 minutes prior to any encounter with the police because what I see here is some dumbasses decided to disregard police order in order to get some shit on tape and become the latest "victims" of police brutality and gain their 15 minutes of fame
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
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 Here you can see a jaywalker hands raised walking towards the window with the officers hands on his shoulders. A few feet from the window the officer changes his grip into a half nelson and begins to perform a take down..
the take down doesnt begin until the guy starts turning around on the cop
The cop pulls him around! When in that position (half nelson) the officer has total leverage and control which he then abused!
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is it? there have been several times the body cam video was released and even though it shows self defense the liberals are claiming that it's murder and demand charges against the cops, that leads to extremely costly trials in which juries seen to be acquitting the cops because they also see self defense
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: pineninja]
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 Here you can see a jaywalker hands raised walking towards the window with the officers hands on his shoulders. A few feet from the window the officer changes his grip into a half nelson and begins to perform a take down..
the take down doesnt begin until the guy starts turning around on the cop
The cop pulls him around! When in that position (half nelson) the officer has total leverage and control which he then abused!
bullshit. a half nelson is limited control at best and the cop isnt pulling him until the guy begins to turn
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22497395 - 11/08/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: bullshit. a half nelson is limited control at best and the cop isnt pulling him until the guy begins to turn
A half nelson is full control when the person is complying.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Idiot]
#22497470 - 11/08/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: bullshit. a half nelson is limited control at best and the cop isnt pulling him until the guy begins to turn
A half nelson is full control when the person is complying.
if the persona is complying, in the gif you posted there's a gap between the officers elbow and the point it would connect on the guy he's trying to take into custody, that means the guy is moving before the cop
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Idiot]
#22497483 - 11/08/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Let me fully break this down. The appropriate way to handle this situation is: Upon being told fuck you the police officer follow them across the street and press the complying citizen against the window, remove hand cuffs from belt, pull one arm behind the citizen and cuff it then pull the other arm and cuff it.
What happened is the officer attempted to throw the citizen into window. The citizen recognizing the danger of this exhibits self preservation. This self preservation convinces another officer that the citizen is resisting even though he is complying. The second officer enters the struggle and begins to fight with the first officer for control of the citizen. This prompts a third officer to enter the struggle and begins fighting the other two officers for control of the complying citizen.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Idiot]
#22497491 - 11/08/15 07:19 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Idiot said: Let me fully break this down. The appropriate way to handle this situation is: Upon being told fuck you the police officer follow them across the street and press the complying citizen against the window, remove hand cuffs from belt, pull one arm behind the citizen and cuff it then pull the other arm and cuff it.
What happened is the officer attempted to throw the citizen into window. The citizen recognizing the danger of this exhibits self preservation. This self preservation convinces another officer that the citizen is resisting even though he is complying. The second officer enters the struggle and begins to fight with the first officer for control of the citizen. This prompts a third officer to enter the struggle and begins fighting the other two officers for control of the complying citizen.
let's give the other narrative, the guy says "fuck you" and is followed by the cop, the cop reaches for him and he tries pulling away so the cops rushes him and slams him into the window and starts to apply a half nelson and while fishing for the other hand the guy starts to turn around on the cop which in turn appears he's trying to elbow the cop in the jaw so the cop forces him down where he continues to resist resulting him him being punched in the arm while the cop is trying to gain control of his hand to apply handcuffs
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22497512 - 11/08/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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The officer in not slowing down upon approach of the window and begins applying the half nelson as the citizen slows himself as he approaches the window. This is self preservation. The citizen is slowing himself as to not hit the window with enough force to potentially break it. The officer recognizes this act of self preservation as resistance and applies a half nelson while continuing to push the citizen full force into the window. The citizen recognizing that the officer is not going to allow him to slow down and rolls his shoulder into the window.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Idiot]
#22497531 - 11/08/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Idiot said: The officer in not slowing down upon approach of the window and begins applying the half nelson as the citizen slows himself as he approaches the window. This is self preservation. The citizen is slowing himself as to not hit the window with enough force to potentially break it. The officer recognizes this act of self preservation as resistance and applies a half nelson while continuing to push the citizen full force into the window. The citizen recognizing that the officer is not going to allow him to slow down and rolls his shoulder into the window.
the citizen is leading it and that can be verified by his continued attempt to resist
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22497594 - 11/08/15 07:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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The officers are clearly angered by their comment.
The officer attempts to throw the citizen into the window. The citizen resists the potential damage that that may cause. The officer sees this and attempts to body slam the citizen. The citizen resists the potential damage that that may cause. The officer knees the citizen in the hip. The citizen reels in pain and buckles. The officer proceeds to beat the citizen in the back of the head. The citizen covers the back of his head/neck in an attempt to lessen the damage that will cause.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22497652 - 11/08/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Idiot said: The officer in not slowing down upon approach of the window and begins applying the half nelson as the citizen slows himself as he approaches the window. This is self preservation. The citizen is slowing himself as to not hit the window with enough force to potentially break it. The officer recognizes this act of self preservation as resistance and applies a half nelson while continuing to push the citizen full force into the window. The citizen recognizing that the officer is not going to allow him to slow down and rolls his shoulder into the window.
the citizen is leading it and that can be verified by his continued attempt to resist
How is the footage of a man with his hands in the air in the clutches of a cop calmly complying a verification of anything other than an unjustified escalation by frustrated individuals(cops).
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: pineninja]
#22497685 - 11/08/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Idiot said: The officer in not slowing down upon approach of the window and begins applying the half nelson as the citizen slows himself as he approaches the window. This is self preservation. The citizen is slowing himself as to not hit the window with enough force to potentially break it. The officer recognizes this act of self preservation as resistance and applies a half nelson while continuing to push the citizen full force into the window. The citizen recognizing that the officer is not going to allow him to slow down and rolls his shoulder into the window.
the citizen is leading it and that can be verified by his continued attempt to resist
How is the footage of a man with his hands in the air in the clutches of a cop calmly complying a verification of anything other than an unjustified escalation by frustrated individuals(cops).
lol... did you watch the same video?
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22497692 - 11/08/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Idiot said: The officer in not slowing down upon approach of the window and begins applying the half nelson as the citizen slows himself as he approaches the window. This is self preservation. The citizen is slowing himself as to not hit the window with enough force to potentially break it. The officer recognizes this act of self preservation as resistance and applies a half nelson while continuing to push the citizen full force into the window. The citizen recognizing that the officer is not going to allow him to slow down and rolls his shoulder into the window.
the citizen is leading it and that can be verified by his continued attempt to resist
How is the footage of a man with his hands in the air in the clutches of a cop calmly complying a verification of anything other than an unjustified escalation by frustrated individuals(cops).
lol... did you watch the same video?
lol... Yes. He had already complied before being assaulted.[
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: pineninja]
#22497718 - 11/08/15 08:04 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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pineninja said: lol... Yes. He had already complied before being assaulted.[
he wasnt complying though
wanna know how I teach my kids to defend themselves against bullies. I tell them to raise their hands in a submissive posture and to draw a lot of attention to themselves while shouting "I dont want to fight you, stop hitting me"
everything the guy did after disregarding the barricade was more to escalate the incident
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22497790 - 11/08/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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The barricades were to stop vehicles not pedestrians. It's likley the individuals did whatever they did to the barricades to have the officers acknowledge the barricades as a device specifically desigened and placed to allow pedestrians to cross.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Idiot]
#22497870 - 11/08/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do you really think had he been saying those words it would have been any different? seems to me more attention would've attracted more punishment!
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22498805 - 11/09/15 01:08 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't think the victim was the one who cursed at the cops. He kept saying "what did I do?" If the cops had told him, or, if he heard the cops saying to stop, he wouldn't have been asking what he did.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: endogenous]
#22498999 - 11/09/15 04:01 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Jaywalking isn't thought of as a crime by most people so I can totally see someone asking this question after being bum rushed after committing the crime. Generally it's a tickit-able offense.
It's just that Austin is cracking down hard on jaywalking. When you get uppity police officers under high pressure from higher up and citizens who don't think they're doing anything wrong shit like this is bound to happen.
Doesn't mean it's ok for police to be so brutal though for such a mundane offence. It's like police arresting children for common childlike behaviors. Except it's adults being beaten for a simple infraction.
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Idiot]
#22499004 - 11/09/15 04:09 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Does anything the cops surprise you anymore ? In America cops do as they please. But then again they are not as corrupted as many other police forces in other countries
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22499134 - 11/09/15 06:29 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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ReposadoXochipilli said: body cameras for cops win win
is it? there have been several times the body cam video was released... ...there's never a win for the cops and there's never a win for tax payers footing these bills
So police body cams are a bad idea? . . .
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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: vinsue]
#22500980 - 11/09/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, because police will always be demonized. Save the money for a bitchin end of year keg-er
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