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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: searching]
    #22495097 - 11/08/15 10:42 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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What were the charges besides resisting arrest? That's all I'm asking. There doesn't have to be a camera on the cops at all times to tell us that. If they were only trying to enforce jaywalking laws then they shouldn't be allowed to say "stop or I'll beat the shit out of you". That's all I'm saying. Can we agree to that?





I never heard them say "stop or I'll beat the shit out of you", do you believe that
a cops should be able to stop somone for jay walking or other minor infraction
because it seems you dont believe this t be the case


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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: endogenous]
    #22495153 - 11/08/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The police are doing Gods work, jaywalkers are terrible people. Crosswalks help society function like a well maintained machine.

In the words of Sgt. Barnes from "Platoon"; if the machine breaks down, we all break down.


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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22495239 - 11/08/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Pris, how are you defending these cops clearly punching and kicking this guy? That's far as fuck out of line.


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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Sheekle]
    #22495555 - 11/08/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Pris, how are you defending these cops clearly punching and kicking this guy? That's far as fuck out of line.





are you telling me you support pedophelia?


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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22495561 - 11/08/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Pris, how are you defending these cops clearly punching and kicking this guy? That's far as fuck out of line.





are you telling me you support pedophelia?




Now wayer out of line lol:peace:
What the heck are you getting at?

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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Shortknight] * 1
    #22495607 - 11/08/15 01:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I'm just working by the rules that doobie dude layed down


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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22495767 - 11/08/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

One day I hope I can see a video like that where the entire scene is filmed, not just the arrest.

Was the kid being a smart ass?
Was he taunting the cops?
Was he previously known by the cops?

You know. context.

Looking at a video that begins with a cop punching a guy to the ground and having 0 idea of what went down first throws everything off. Did the guy argue like a jackass for 10 minutes before the cop lost patience? We never know that part of the story.

I don't imagine a cop just walking down thesidewalk and suddenly beating the shit out of someone for no reason. The cop just woke up that morning and decided to throw his life away? I don't think so...


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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #22496261 - 11/08/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

searching said:
What were the charges besides resisting arrest? That's all I'm asking. There doesn't have to be a camera on the cops at all times to tell us that. If they were only trying to enforce jaywalking laws then they shouldn't be allowed to say "stop or I'll beat the shit out of you". That's all I'm saying. Can we agree to that?





I never heard them say "stop or I'll beat the shit out of you", do you believe that
a cops should be able to stop somone for jay walking or other minor infraction
because it seems you dont believe this t be the case




In effect, that is what they are saying. If you don't stop I will use violence to make you stop. No, they shouldn't be able to use force to make someone stop after jaywalking.


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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: searching]
    #22496297 - 11/08/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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searching said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

searching said:
What were the charges besides resisting arrest? That's all I'm asking. There doesn't have to be a camera on the cops at all times to tell us that. If they were only trying to enforce jaywalking laws then they shouldn't be allowed to say "stop or I'll beat the shit out of you". That's all I'm saying. Can we agree to that?





I never heard them say "stop or I'll beat the shit out of you", do you believe that
a cops should be able to stop somone for jay walking or other minor infraction
because it seems you dont believe this t be the case




In effect, that is what they are saying. If you don't stop I will use violence to make you stop. No, they shouldn't be able to use force to make someone stop after jaywalking.





no, that's simply the narrative you put on it

your views are exactly the type of views that have escalated these situations to
what they are, people violating minor laws, refusing to simply take the citation
and it becomes a situation where they have a felony resisting charge instead of a
$15 fine for jay walking


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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #22496313 - 11/08/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Patlal said:
One day I hope I can see a video like that where the entire scene is filmed, not just the arrest.

Was the kid being a smart ass?
Was he taunting the cops?
Was he previously known by the cops?

You know. context.





None of those contexts justify assault.


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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: searching]
    #22496327 - 11/08/15 03:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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searching said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

searching said:
What were the charges besides resisting arrest? That's all I'm asking. There doesn't have to be a camera on the cops at all times to tell us that. If they were only trying to enforce jaywalking laws then they shouldn't be allowed to say "stop or I'll beat the shit out of you". That's all I'm saying. Can we agree to that?





I never heard them say "stop or I'll beat the shit out of you", do you believe that
a cops should be able to stop somone for jay walking or other minor infraction
because it seems you dont believe this t be the case




In effect, that is what they are saying. If you don't stop I will use violence to make you stop. No, they shouldn't be able to use force to make someone stop after jaywalking.




Yes, they should.

Jaywalkers, addicts and litterbugs are terrible human beings. The second deepest level of hell is reserved for jaywalkers. Its in Dantes 'The Divine Comedy '


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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: DieCommie]
    #22496329 - 11/08/15 03:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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DieCommie said:
Quote:

Patlal said:
One day I hope I can see a video like that where the entire scene is filmed, not just the arrest.

Was the kid being a smart ass?
Was he taunting the cops?
Was he previously known by the cops?

You know. context.





None of those contexts justify assault.




what about resisting or obstruction?


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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22496345 - 11/08/15 03:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

DieCommie said:
Quote:

Patlal said:
One day I hope I can see a video like that where the entire scene is filmed, not just the arrest.

Was the kid being a smart ass?
Was he taunting the cops?
Was he previously known by the cops?

You know. context.





None of those contexts justify assault.




what about resisting or obstruction?




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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Patlal]
    #22496363 - 11/08/15 03:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The account from the video taker (friend of "victims") is that they walked across a barricaded street and apparently kicked/jumped on/parkour off of a jersey barrier/blockade.  The police requested them to stop. An individual said something like "No, fuck you!" and they all finished crossing the street and the events in the video began.

To my knowledge no statement from the police has been released from their point of view, and no third party witness has made a public statement.

I'm in the boat of police reactions proportional to the crime on this one. Based on the account from the friend (unsubstantiated as it is) it seems like over use of force was used here. If the group had immediately complied with the police officer's orders it would have negated the city wide police crackdown on jaywalking by leaving a group of pedestrians stationary in middle of a street. Alowing them to finish walking across the street and approaching them safely would have been more appropriate. We have no measure of how many times the police requested them to stop but assuming (yeah, I know) it was only once their reaction was unproportional to the crime, even if they said fuck you.




These two gifs are separated by just a few seconds the one where he's complying and putting his hands against the wall happened first. This is why the police's response was unproportional.


Edited by Idiot (11/08/15 04:05 PM)


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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Idiot]
    #22496418 - 11/08/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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If the group had immediately complied with the police officer's orders it would have negated the city wide police crackdown on jaywalking by leaving a group of pedestrians stationary in middle of a street.






horse shit... they could have simply crossed back the way they came and shit would
have been fine, instead they took the "I know my rights" approach and continued
their quest to disregard the cop's instructions and instead of handling shit like
adults they decided to hash is out in the street, as several others had pointed out
they're clearly shown resisting and in today's environment we all know what that
gets you, the cops call it 'pain compliance techniques', libtards call it a
beating when in reality this little pussies didnt get close to a beating, one guy
got punched in the arm a few times HOLY FUCKING SHIT, EXECUTE THE COPS FOR
PUNCHING SOMEONE IN THE ARM!!!!

as I said before, we've become a nation of pansies


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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22496436 - 11/08/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I edited my post with gifs, I suggest to take a look at it again.


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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Idiot]
    #22496467 - 11/08/15 04:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I edited my post with gifs, I suggest to take a look at it again.





gifs that show somoene resisting and the cop trying to maintain control of that
person, is that supposed to prove something, hell, you even stated the guy was
resisting in this posts... tell us, what happens when you resist against the cops?


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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22496491 - 11/08/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I'm sorry sarcasm seems to be lost on you.

It seems as if the only thing he is resisting is being tackled through a plate glass window.


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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22496548 - 11/08/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

DieCommie said:
Quote:

Patlal said:
One day I hope I can see a video like that where the entire scene is filmed, not just the arrest.

Was the kid being a smart ass?
Was he taunting the cops?
Was he previously known by the cops?

You know. context.





None of those contexts justify assault.




what about resisting or obstruction?




Nope.  The only time violence is justified is in self defense.


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Re: Texas Police Beat Up Pedestrians for Jaywalking [Re: Idiot]
    #22496613 - 11/08/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm sorry sarcasm seems to be lost on you.

It seems as if the only thing he is resisting is being tackled through a plate glass window.





so his resisting wasnt resisting.

typical


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