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Re: Why does the moron in Chief get to do coke [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
    #22528227 - 11/15/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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In fact, if you have ancestors from anywhere other than sub-saharan Africa , it could be legitimately argued that you are even less "human" than African people, because European and Asian DNA was permanently tainted by neanderthals thousands of years ago, whereas African DNA is more pure homo sapiens....

https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/neanderthal/





"African DNA is more pure homo sapiens...." Fucking hilarious- this guy must have a lot of African DNA in him! :lolsy:




So are you also a science denier? I'm not sure what you are laughing at.

I wish I had some sub-saharan DNA! I'm all British/German. I've got some of that neanderthal in me. I would love to be more genetically diverse...

The earliest I have been able to trace my Y chromosome back is to the 1630's in Wales, and most my ancestors on my moms side immigrated to America from Germany in the 1840's.





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Oh you wish some African would put some DNA in you, got it.

Why would you want African DNA in you, again, liberal?


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Re: Why does the moron in Chief get to do coke [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22528731 - 11/15/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Oh you wish some African would put some DNA in you, got it.

Why would you want African DNA in you, again, liberal?




Ohhh, you so clever!! :thatsjustswell:

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Re: Why does the moron in Chief get to do coke [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22528783 - 11/15/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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African DNA is more pure homo sapiens....





"African DNA is more pure homo sapiens...." Fucking hilarious- this guy must have a lot of African DNA in him! :lolsy:




I wish I had some sub-saharan DNA! I'm all British/German. I've got some of that neanderthal in me. I would love to be more genetically diverse...





"I wish I had some sub-saharan DNA!" - FlyOnTheWall

Why would you want African DNA in you, again, liberal?




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Re: Why does the moron in Chief get to do coke [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
    #22528918 - 11/15/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Not all blacks look like monkeys, but some CLEARY do, we descend from monkeys, right? So it would only make sense that some us would retain more of those chimpish features than others, does it not?





It definitely does not.

Chimpish features??

WTF are you even talking about??

Are you trying to imply that because chimps, gorillas etc. have black fur, and some people have black hair, people with black hair must be more "monkey like"?

I'm not even going to touch the fact that the we did not descend from "monkeys" (or that chimps, like the one you posted, aren't monkeys...they are apes...not that you would be able to understand the difference... ) We do share a common ancestor with chimps and gorillas, but we evolved into a very separate species millions of years before the first humans even left Africa.

In fact, if you have ancestors from anywhere other than sub-saharan Africa , it could be legitimately argued that you are even less "human" than African people, because European and Asian DNA was permanently tainted by neanderthals thousands of years ago, whereas African DNA is more pure homo sapiens....

https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/neanderthal/




dude, Ive never even been to africa...  how in the fuck does any of that even make sense?:shrug:


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Re: Why does the moron in Chief get to do coke [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22529322 - 11/15/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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dude, Ive never even been to africa...  how in the fuck does any of that even make sense?:shrug:




I know I am horrible at explaining things a lot of the time, so I am not surprised that you don't understand what I was trying to say.

Can you understand what it says in the article I posted, though?

I'm not sure what you are trying to say when you say about having never been to Africa. Most people in the world have never been to Africa.


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Re: Why does the moron in Chief get to do coke [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
    #22529349 - 11/15/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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dude, Ive never even been to africa...  how in the fuck does any of that even make sense?:shrug:




I know I am horrible at explaining things a lot of the time, so I am not surprised that you don't understand what I was trying to say.

Can you understand what it says in the article I posted, though?

I'm not sure what you are trying to say when you say about having never been to Africa. Most people in the world have never been to Africa.





what article? are you saying that most of the world don't come from monkeys?


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Re: Why does the moron in Chief get to do coke [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22529362 - 11/15/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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dude, Ive never even been to africa...  how in the fuck does any of that even make sense?:shrug:




I know I am horrible at explaining things a lot of the time, so I am not surprised that you don't understand what I was trying to say.

Can you understand what it says in the article I posted, though?

I'm not sure what you are trying to say when you say about having never been to Africa. Most people in the world have never been to Africa.





what article? are you saying that most of the world don't come from monkeys?




The link in my previous post is to a national geographic article explaining why everyone in the world has neanderthal DNA, with the exception of sub-saharan African people.

And yes, nobody in the world is descended from monkeys. Monkeys have tails. Do you have a tail?

Do humans descend from monkeys?


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Re: Why does the moron in Chief get to do coke [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
    #22529372 - 11/15/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Although, apparently there are exceptions to this rule, and not all monkeys have tails.

I will admit that if I knew this, I had forgotten.

No apes have tails, though.


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Re: Why does the moron in Chief get to do coke [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
    #22529386 - 11/15/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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dude, Ive never even been to africa...  how in the fuck does any of that even make sense?:shrug:




I know I am horrible at explaining things a lot of the time, so I am not surprised that you don't understand what I was trying to say.

Can you understand what it says in the article I posted, though?

I'm not sure what you are trying to say when you say about having never been to Africa. Most people in the world have never been to Africa.





what article? are you saying that most of the world don't come from monkeys?




The link in my previous post is to a national geographic article explaining why everyone in the world has neanderthal DNA, with the exception of sub-saharan African people.

And yes, nobody in the world is descended from monkeys. Monkeys have tails. Do you have a tail?

no, but I used to...

http://www.science20.com/fish_feet/why_does_my_baby_have_a_tail

i still don't understand how man came from monkeys, but not monkeys in africa? is that what you're saying?






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Re: Why does the moron in Chief get to do coke [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22529412 - 11/15/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Humans didn't come from monkeys.

Humans evolved from apes.

Monkeys are not apes.

Apes are not monkeys.

Apes are primates.

Monkeys are also primates.

Humans are hominids, which are also known as "great apes".

Humans are primates.

Humans are also apes.

Humans are not monkeys.

Let me know when you get these down and then we can move forward from there.


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Re: Why does the moron in Chief get to do coke [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
    #22529425 - 11/15/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

ObamaNation sounds better


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Re: Why does the moron in Chief get to do coke [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
    #22529454 - 11/15/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

All mammals have a tail at some point during their development. This is because all mammals descend from a species that had tails.

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The coccyx, or tailbone, is the remnant of a lost tail. All mammals have a tail at some point in their development; in humans, it is present for a period of 4 weeks, during stages 14 to 22 of human embryogenesis.[17] This tail is most prominent in human embryos 31–35 days old.[18] The tailbone, located at the end of the spine, has lost its original function in assisting balance and mobility, though it still serves some secondary functions, such as being an attachment point for muscles, which explains why it has not degraded further.




Yes, I'm qouting wikipedia

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Re: Why does the moron in Chief get to do coke [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
    #22529567 - 11/15/15 09:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

its ok, these guys couldn't follow a journal article anyway.  watch.

http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/20/3/424.full
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n this article, we used several different data sets and distance measures each with a single global clock. We obtained relatively close but slightly different time estimates using different distance measures. For example, our estimate of the time of divergence between humans and chimpanzees obtained by the CS method varied from 5.5 MYA to 7.4 MYA in table 1 and table 3 (excluding the standard errors), the average of the 12 observations being 6.3 MYA. (Although the estimates in table 3 are based on a subset of the genes used in table 1, we treated them as independent estimates because the estimates depend on the genes and distance measures used and we wanted to know only a crude magnitude of variation of the estimates without consideration of standard errors.) Therefore, we can probably say that the divergence between humans and chimpanzees occurred about 6 MYA with a rough range of 5–7 MYA. If we use this crude approach, the times of divergence of the human lineage from the gorilla, orangutan, OW monkey, and NW monkey lineages become 7 MYA (range, 6–8), 13 MYA (range, 12–15), 23 MYA (range, 21–25), and 33 MYA (range, 32–36). Here we included the fossil estimate (13 MYA) for the computation of the human/orangutan divergence and used only the estimates in table 3 for the computation of the human/OW monkey and the human/NW monkey divergence.

Note that the above estimates were obtained without consideration of uncertainty of fossil dating. We used T1 = 90 MYA for the primate/artiodactyl divergence, but the actual dating of Ungulatomorpha varies from 85 MYA to 90 MYA. The dating of Sivapithecus also varies from 6.8 MYA to 12.7 MYA (Ward 1997). Furthermore, these dates do not necessarily indicate the actual time of species divergence (Easteal 1999). Therefore, the actual time of divergence may deviate even more from our estimates. In the presence of this uncertainty, what kind of estimates should we trust? In our opinion, the best way would be to construct linearized trees for a group of species (many different species of primates in the present case) using several different groups of genes and examine the consistency among time estimates obtained from different sets of genes. If different genes give similar estimates, we can accept them until they are rejected by other new sets of genes.







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Re: Why does the moron in Chief get to do coke [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22531637 - 11/16/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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African DNA is more pure homo sapiens....





"African DNA is more pure homo sapiens...." Fucking hilarious- this guy must have a lot of African DNA in him! :lolsy:




I wish I had some sub-saharan DNA! I'm all British/German. I've got some of that neanderthal in me. I would love to be more genetically diverse...





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Why would you want African DNA in you, again, liberal?




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Re: Why does the moron in Chief get to do coke [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22538138 - 11/17/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You can quote me as much as you want. I have completely dominated you throughout the discussion and proved beyond doubt that you are inferior to me.

Thanks for playing!


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Re: Why does the moron in Chief get to do coke [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
    #22539309 - 11/17/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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You can quote me as much as you want. I have completely dominated you throughout the discussion and proved beyond doubt that you are inferior to me.

Thanks for playing!




Yeah I quoted you saying you want African DNA in you...Nah I've won every "argument" that you can come up with-I kick your ass over and over. You're not very good at debate are you?

You still haven't answered the question: Why would you want African DNA in you, again, liberal?

Here's some more questions you still haven't answered:
Why does the moron in Chief get to do coke but when I do it, it's illegal?
Why do hypocritical retards like Obowelmovement get to control the lives of 300 million people?


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Re: Why does the moron in Chief get to do coke [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22539797 - 11/17/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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You still haven't answered the question: Why would you want African DNA in you, again, liberal?





How about malaria resistance?

http://www.nature.com/hdy/journal/v107/n4/full/hdy201116a.html
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(1) There is extensive overlap of the historical geographical distribution of malaria and human genetic variants that confer resistance to malaria. For example, P. falciparum is found across Africa and Asia, as are the resistance variants of hemoglobin and G6PD. Further, in regions of high endemic malaria, such as sub-Saharan tropical Africa and lowland Melanesia, there are generally more than one resistant variant present. Resistant variants are generally not present in regions where there is no history of malaria, except in recent immigrants (O'Shaughnessy et al., 1990). For example, there does not appear to be any of the common malaria-resistant variants in native people of the new world (Livingstone, 1985), apparently because their Asian ancestors were not exposed to malaria and malaria was only brought to the new world by early Spanish explorers in the 1600s and 1700s. In addition, there are convincing examples of microgeographic variation in β-thalassemia with higher frequencies at lower altitudes in Sardinia where malaria was historically endemic compared with higher altitudes (Siniscalco et al., 1961) and variation of α-thalassemia (Flint et al., 1986) and β-thalassemia (Hill et al., 1988) in Melanesia correlated with altitude, which is highly correlated with malaria endemicity.





http://trstmh.oxfordjournals.org/content/95/2/149.short
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The gene frequencies in 1993–1994 for haemoglobin S, haemoglobin C, alpha−37 deletional thalassaemia, G6PDA−, HLA B∗ 5301 were estimated in Fulani, Mossi and Rimaibé ethnic groups of Burkina Faso, West Africa. The aim of the study was to verify whether the previously reported Fulani lower susceptibility to Plasmodium falciparum malaria was associated with any of these malaria-resistance genes. Similar frequencies for haemoglobin S were recorded in the 3 ethnic groups (0·024 ± 0·008, 0·030 ± 0·011, 0·022 ± 0·013; in Mossi, Rimaibé and Fulani, respectively). The Mossi and Rimaibé showed higher frequencies when compared to Fulani for haemoglobin C (0·117 ± 0·018, 0·127 ± 0·020, 0·059 ± 0·020), alpha−37 deletional thalassaemia (0·227 ± 0·040, 0·134 ± 0·032, 0·103 ± 0·028), G6PDA− (0·196 ± 0·025, 0·187 ± 0·044, 0·069 ± 0·025) and HLA B∗5301 (0·189 ± 0·038, 0·202 ± 0·041, 0·061 ± 0·024). Among Fulani the proportion of individuals not having any of these protective alleles was more than 3-fold greater than in the Mossi-Rimaibé group (56·8% vs 16·7%; P < 0·001). These findings exclude the involvement of these genetic factors of resistance to P. falciparum in the lower susceptibility to malaria of Fulani. This evidence, in association with the previously reported higher immune reactivity to malaria of Fulani, further supports the existence in this ethnic group of unknown genetic factor(s) of resistance to malaria probably involved in the regulation of humoral immune responses.




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Re: Why does the moron in Chief get to do coke [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22539808 - 11/17/15 11:02 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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You still haven't answered the question: Why would you want African DNA in you, again, liberal?





How about malaria resistance?

http://www.nature.com/hdy/journal/v107/n4/full/hdy201116a.html
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(1) There is extensive overlap of the historical geographical distribution of malaria and human genetic variants that confer resistance to malaria. For example, P. falciparum is found across Africa and Asia, as are the resistance variants of hemoglobin and G6PD. Further, in regions of high endemic malaria, such as sub-Saharan tropical Africa and lowland Melanesia, there are generally more than one resistant variant present. Resistant variants are generally not present in regions where there is no history of malaria, except in recent immigrants (O'Shaughnessy et al., 1990). For example, there does not appear to be any of the common malaria-resistant variants in native people of the new world (Livingstone, 1985), apparently because their Asian ancestors were not exposed to malaria and malaria was only brought to the new world by early Spanish explorers in the 1600s and 1700s. In addition, there are convincing examples of microgeographic variation in β-thalassemia with higher frequencies at lower altitudes in Sardinia where malaria was historically endemic compared with higher altitudes (Siniscalco et al., 1961) and variation of α-thalassemia (Flint et al., 1986) and β-thalassemia (Hill et al., 1988) in Melanesia correlated with altitude, which is highly correlated with malaria endemicity.





http://trstmh.oxfordjournals.org/content/95/2/149.short
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The gene frequencies in 1993–1994 for haemoglobin S, haemoglobin C, alpha−37 deletional thalassaemia, G6PDA−, HLA B∗ 5301 were estimated in Fulani, Mossi and Rimaibé ethnic groups of Burkina Faso, West Africa. The aim of the study was to verify whether the previously reported Fulani lower susceptibility to Plasmodium falciparum malaria was associated with any of these malaria-resistance genes. Similar frequencies for haemoglobin S were recorded in the 3 ethnic groups (0·024 ± 0·008, 0·030 ± 0·011, 0·022 ± 0·013; in Mossi, Rimaibé and Fulani, respectively). The Mossi and Rimaibé showed higher frequencies when compared to Fulani for haemoglobin C (0·117 ± 0·018, 0·127 ± 0·020, 0·059 ± 0·020), alpha−37 deletional thalassaemia (0·227 ± 0·040, 0·134 ± 0·032, 0·103 ± 0·028), G6PDA− (0·196 ± 0·025, 0·187 ± 0·044, 0·069 ± 0·025) and HLA B∗5301 (0·189 ± 0·038, 0·202 ± 0·041, 0·061 ± 0·024). Among Fulani the proportion of individuals not having any of these protective alleles was more than 3-fold greater than in the Mossi-Rimaibé group (56·8% vs 16·7%; P < 0·001). These findings exclude the involvement of these genetic factors of resistance to P. falciparum in the lower susceptibility to malaria of Fulani. This evidence, in association with the previously reported higher immune reactivity to malaria of Fulani, further supports the existence in this ethnic group of unknown genetic factor(s) of resistance to malaria probably involved in the regulation of humoral immune responses.







So that's why you want African DNA in you, balls? He he... malaria resistance :lolsy: More people die of diarrhea than malaria


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Re: Why does the moron in Chief get to do coke [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22539877 - 11/17/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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So that's why you want African DNA in you, balls? He he... Malaria resistance :lolsy: More people die of diarrhea than Malaria




ok, how about this: Africans are less inbred.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2953791/
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The migration of modern humans out of Africa is thought to be accompanied by a population bottleneck. The size of the population(s) migrating out of Africa is estimated to be ~600 effective founding females (i.e., census size of ~1800 females) on the basis of mtDNA evidence (62, 120), to be ~1000 effective founding males and females (i.e., census size of ~3000 individuals) based on the analysis of 783 autosomal microsatellites genotyped in the Center d’Etude du Polymorphisme Humain (CEPH) human genome diversity panel (HGDP) (112), and to be ~1500 (i.e., a census size of ~4500 individuals) based on a combined analysis of mtDNA, Y chromosome, and X chromosome nucleotide diversity data (72). These estimates imply that Eurasians must have rapidly expanded to a larger size to account for estimates of a long-term effective population size (Ne) of ~10,000 individuals (census size of ~30,000 individuals) for global populations (172, 243). Indeed, several recent studies indicate a rapid expansion of Eurasian populations within the past ~50,000 years, whereas Africans have maintained a large effective population size (72, 125, 243).




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Re: Why does the moron in Chief get to do coke [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22539929 - 11/17/15 11:44 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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So that's why you want African DNA in you, balls? He he... Malaria resistance :lolsy: More people die of diarrhea than Malaria




ok, how about this: Africans are less inbred.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2953791/
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The migration of modern humans out of Africa is thought to be accompanied by a population bottleneck. The size of the population(s) migrating out of Africa is estimated to be ~600 effective founding females (i.e., census size of ~1800 females) on the basis of mtDNA evidence (62, 120), to be ~1000 effective founding males and females (i.e., census size of ~3000 individuals) based on the analysis of 783 autosomal microsatellites genotyped in the Center d’Etude du Polymorphisme Humain (CEPH) human genome diversity panel (HGDP) (112), and to be ~1500 (i.e., a census size of ~4500 individuals) based on a combined analysis of mtDNA, Y chromosome, and X chromosome nucleotide diversity data (72). These estimates imply that Eurasians must have rapidly expanded to a larger size to account for estimates of a long-term effective population size (Ne) of ~10,000 individuals (census size of ~30,000 individuals) for global populations (172, 243). Indeed, several recent studies indicate a rapid expansion of Eurasian populations within the past ~50,000 years, whereas Africans have maintained a large effective population size (72, 125, 243).







Being "less inbred" has no real life value it seems because the people in Britain historically built more civilization than the entire continent of Africa. I'm still not sure why you, balls, would want African DNA in yourself?


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