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DiamondMouse
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Yah i know i was kicking myself in the ass after i put the top layer of coir verm on I may go peel some back and mix it in a little by little :o
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Mycologist217
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all of those roger rabbit quotes are referring to external temps. He explains it pretty much word for word like I said in the PF TEK section of the Lets Grow Mushroom DVDs....but honestly I kept my current tubs at 78F while colonizing the birdseed.
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Mad Season
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OK but what I'm saying is agar dishes in a 2 dimensional plane don't have thermogenesis. So inside and outside temps are the same. Jars will have thermogenesis. That means those figures are too high for substrates with mass. 78 is borderline too high. Especially for big ass substrates like monotubs.
I haven't noticed any differences in big substrates in temps of 65-75. And contams won't thrive nearly as well. It just makes sense to keep that shit cooler for both contams and optimal growth rate.
@op I'd mix it in some if you can.
Edited by Mad Season (12/02/15 11:07 AM)
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DiamondMouse
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yeah I am hoping i didn't hurt it it was sitting in there for a good 12 hours, i peeled off the top layer best i could stuck my hand in there flipped it a few times, put in back over, peeled off the other side of the tub flipped it a few times put the layer back over ;I and put the lid back on, my basements pretty chill though around 66-67 i was thinking of moving it elsewhere, i can't seem to get enough heat pumpin down there unless i stick the mono into that incubator which id really rather not do it wouldn't hurt it considering i haven't trimmed the bag down at all yet and its pretty much an air tight environment as it sits right now. May move it upstairs to our bedroom see how that goes, as for my SGFC i got my two golden teachers in one of them that i made, The humidity is staying in the 90's since last night it dipped down to mid 80's by 10 am and i misted the perlite and pulled my teachers out of there dunk session and popped em into it, humidity is back into the 90's but still only 66-67 F in my basement thats a steady temp wont drop or rise drastically by any means this house is cooking upstairs,
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Mad Season
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65-75 is what I like. Winter can drop to 60ish. That's all good man. Your basement should be fine and it'll keep contams down. 12 hours shouldn't be any problems either.
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This is the best shit. Give it a read. Keep your cakes verm damp and glistening. Mist when needed.
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DiamondMouse
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faaaar out!
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DiamondMouse
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Day two of spawning to bulk....

I'm really hoping it's supposed to look like that hah.
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MrSturgill
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Looks good enough for me
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DiamondMouse
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Well here we are again. Here's a few photos These first two were just taken
I am wondering why this second ones stem split them the next day decided to fold up and pop veil.
This is a photo this morning of the first cake

The other two cakes have a lot of pins starting on them just not much major growth in also wondering why they are so slow compared to the one in the sgfc by itself. Thoughts anyone? Ideas? Also should I be concerned about the darker caps on the one cake?
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MrSturgill
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looks good man
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DiamondMouse
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Also what's your thoughts on using a convection toaster oven to dry these out. On the convectional setting it has a fan that runs and also lets u set the temp fro. 0 to 500f. Lol
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MrSturgill
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I suppose it could work... If you can set it to 160 you should be fine, or just pick up a cheap dehydrator. Never tried it before but plenty of people dry in their oven so... Give it a try I guess
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DiamondMouse
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Oh yea it has all the bells and whistles of a toaster oven with a convectional oven setting. Fan turns on and blows the hot air around inside it
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MrSturgill
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Just be careful, I'd hate for you to cook your first flush.
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DiamondMouse
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For sure all the articles I've read so far say 150 for an hour on each side and it should be crispy dry. I'm thinking I'll go lower like 80 or 100 I could care less how long it takes as long as like you said. I don't cook them
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MrSturgill
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as far as I know the actives don't start breaking down till around 300f so you'll be fine. I'm only worried about how much heat comes off of those coils while they're pre-heating or w/e. It's a toaster oven type deal right? I'm pretty sure you'll be ok but personally I would feel much better about investing in a dehydrator especially if you plan to continue this hobby. I picked up a pos $5 dehydrator at a garage sale, hasn't let me down.
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MajorDick
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If you're set on using that convection oven..
Id air dry all of them for half a day or so first. Then just put a fat one and skinny one in there to test the process. Id probably find a way to prop the door open slightly to let air flow out as well. And watch it very carefully of course.
I don't store mine for more than a few months so i just rig up a box fan dryer and let that go for a few days. Had them sit around at room temp for months and they still do their job. Comes down to what's practical for your needs, there are plenty of options.
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DiamondMouse
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Re: First time growing. [Re: MajorDick]
#22636907 - 12/10/15 12:44 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm open to ideas for sure. I'd like a dehydrator, although Christmas is coming and times are tough so I'm trying to improvise with what I have. All and all should be a very Merry Christmas. Those other two cakes I have a filling with pins they each have about 20 small pins started on them hoping they don't abort or stall. And my tub is coming along pretty decently I haven't opened it for a 7 or 8 days but when I look inside, theirs a lot of white stuff forming I'm thinking maybe another 3-6 days that will put it at around 14 days at most. Idk if I should colonize longer than 14 days in a monotube or just try to start to fruit even if it's not fully colonized?
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MajorDick
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Agar and RR used to say you can "read" the substrate to know when it's ready to fruit by observing the rhizos starting to reach up from the surface. I usually say fuck it after 14 tho. It'll fruit eventuality.
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DiamondMouse
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Re: First time growing. [Re: MajorDick]
#22636942 - 12/10/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sounds good to me
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