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POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: starfire_xes]
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So is it a lie that he believes in creationism then?
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: HardTrippin]
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HardTrippin said: So is it a lie that he believes in creationism then?
thats not what that was about.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: starfire_xes] 1
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Mission accomplished on their part by getting it spread around while knowing nobody will read a thing about the truth of the matter. The toothpaste never goes back in the tube and they shot it all over the place in a matter of hours.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: starfire_xes]
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starfire_xes said: http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/06/politico-admits-fabricating-a-hit-piece-on-ben-carson/
I TOLD YOU SO     
Politico rewrote the Headline/article and removed theLIES.
Mission accomplished on their part by getting it spread around while knowing nobody will read a thing about the truth of the matter. The toothpaste never goes back in the tube and they shot it all over the place in a matter of hours.

I just explained the whole story in another thread.
Carson, in his bestselling 1990 memoir "Gifted Hands" (where he had time to think about what he was writing) wrote "I was offered a full scholarship to West Point." That claim was proven false. Carson lied. He doubled down on his lie in an interview with Charlie Rose (see the 30 second mark). He wasn't backed into a corner with a question like "did you ever smoke pot?" He intentionally lied.
The Federalist article that you linked to said "Politico‘s Kyle Cheney admitted that he fabricated a negative story about Ben Carson." That's also a lie. If you read the "Editor's Note" to the story, you'll see the truth about what the author actually said.
You posted the above article like a kindeegartner being shown Santa Claus in the mall and then telling everyone "see, I TOLD you he's REAL!!!" You should try and make it a point to understand what you read before posting it, rather being a "mindless buffoon who is led around by a nose ring."
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Politico reported he lied and claimed to have 'received' a full scholarship from West Point. He said he was offered admittance and declined. Admittance would be a four year military service at zero cost which is why the term scholarship was used.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Astral Pain]
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Astral Pain said: He said he was offered admittance and declined. Admittance would be a four year military service at zero cost which is why the term scholarship was used.
If he was admitted to West Point, then I agree that could effectively count as a 'scholarship'. But he was never admitted; he never even applied. General Westmoreland had no authority to offer admittance. You have to be nominated by one of these linked personnel (such as a Congressman, Vice President, or Secretary of the Army).
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Politico reported with the headline “Ben Carson admits fabricating West Point scholarship” with a subbed “Carson’s campaign on Friday conceded that a central point in his inspirational personal story did not occur as he previously described.” Both points are false. He never claimed to be admitted to west point as Politico reported him to have done. He had the top ROTC scores in the city and declined the offer for admittance to west point with his choice of school being Yale.
The original false story put out by Politico is what sparked this whole debacle which led to others reporting on these false claims. They cleaned up their story eventually, but the damage was done and they achieved what they initially set out to do. Try to damage his character.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Astral Pain]
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I have known for quite some time that Politico is an unreliable Democrat Party mouthpiece.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Astral Pain]
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Astral Pain said: Politico reported with the headline “Ben Carson admits fabricating West Point scholarship” with a subbed “Carson’s campaign on Friday conceded that a central point in his inspirational personal story did not occur as he previously described.” Both points are false.
 I linked to two examples above where Ben Carson said he was offered a scholarship to West Point. He COULDN'T POSSIBLY HAVE BEEN OFFERED A SCHOLARSHIP (ACCEPTANCE) IF HE DIDN'T APPLY. No one but the people I linked to (Congress, etc) has the authority to nominate him, and Westmoreland, being a West Point graduate himself, would know that. At best, Westmoreland offered a letter of recommendation. By saying he was offered a scholarship (a lie) to West Point, Carson implied that he was accepted to West Point (he wasn't, as he never even applied).
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Astral Pain said: He never claimed to be admitted to west point as Politico reported him to have done. He had the top ROTC scores in the city and declined the offer for admittance to west point with his choice of school being Yale.
He NEVER GOT AN OFFER TO WESTPOINT AS HE NEVER APPLIED. Again, in order to get a scholarship (to get accepted), you have to apply. I know the process extremely well as I applied to the Air Force Academy myself (same process as West Point and the Naval Academy).
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Astral Pain said: The original false story put out by Politico is what sparked this whole debacle which led to others reporting on these false claims.
The whole debacle is that he lied about getting a scholarship to West Point. That is still true, and I've linked to two stories proving he lied about that. Stop being led by a nose ring (The Federalist article) and try to understand what's really going on here.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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GAME OVER. There's nothing FAL, or else Politico would be all over it like stink on shit.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: starfire_xes]
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Did you even read my posts???
First of all, I told you that Politico added an "Editor's Note" to their article clarifying things. But let's not let a red herring distract us; the issue is what Ben Carson did. Ben Carson said "I was offered a full scholarship to West Point." Even though he should have said "appointment" rather than "scholarship", I'm ok with that mistake and won't hold it against him.
However, he never got an appointment (or scholarship) to West Point, and stands by the fact that he did. That's NOT POSSIBLE if he didn't apply. Get it??? You're now stooping to burgerbrain tactics with statements like "I WIN", or "GAME OVER" without any supporting arguments.
1. Did Carson say "I was offered a full scholarship to West Point" or did he not? 2. Was he offered a full scholarship (or appointment) to West Point or was he not?
The evidence is very clear on both these points. He said he was offered a full scholarship, but he was not.
If you see contradicting evidence to either of those questions, please share it with us. But I suspect the best you can do is go back to the Politico article, which is just a red herring at this point because it's not irrelevant to whether Carson lied. The evidence I provided proves he did lie.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Everybody who goes to West Point gets a full scholarship.
There is no reason to believe he wasn't told that he could get in and that he wouldn't find a sponsor. They would have loved to have had him.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said: Everybody who goes to West Point gets a full scholarship.
I already said I'm giving him a pass for calling it a "scholarship".
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zappaisgod said: There is no reason to believe he wasn't told that he could get in and that he wouldn't find a sponsor. They would have loved to have had him.
Being told he ought to be able to get in, and being accepted are two VERY different things. A lot of people are told they ought to be able to get into a good college.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: starfire_xes]
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Shroom Detective]
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Ben Carson said: "I never said I got a scholarship, I had people who said 'yes' that I could get a scholarship to West Point"
Way to change your story Ben! I linked to a video where he said "I was offered a full scholarship to West Point", and he said exactly the same in his book "Gifted Hands".
Now he's lying YET AGAIN, claiming people only told him that he "could get" a scholarship to West Point. 
Then he goes on to complain about Obama getting a pass for not releasing his private academic records. "Tell me where there's equivalency there!"
He thinks lying is equivalent to not releasing private records?!?!?
Thanks for the video Shroom Detective. You've just proven beyond a doubt that Carson is both a compulsive liar, and a buffoon.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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CARSON: The story is, you know, I had ascended the ranks of ROTC to become the (Civic) Executive Officer faster than anyone had ever done that before. Got a lot of attention for that. Was invited to a lot of affairs. And at, at one point was told that I could easily get a scholarship to West Point. And I indicated that, you know, I was going to pursue a career in medicine, but that I was very grateful. And that was the end of that. There was never...
O'REILLY: All right. So you weren't offered anything. And we thought -- and you, I, I don't know whether you know this or not, but there are no scholarships to West Point. It's all free tuition. You get an appointment from a Congressman or a Congresswoman, and that's how you get there. But you were never formally offered any kind of accommodation at West Point, is that correct?
CARSON: Right, I was just told that it would be very easy for me.
O'REILLY: OK, so that should have been a little clearer on page 57 of your book, correct.
CARSON: I guess you could -- it could have been more clari -- I told it as I understood it.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Shroom Detective]
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O'REILLY: Now I'm going to take your word for all this, doctor. I'm going to believe you. You're not going to let me down, are you?
CARSON: Of course not. I mean, I -- you know, lying I believe is a grave sin. And there's just no way I would be sitting here lying about something like this. It's just beyond belief.
O'REILLY: All right.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Shroom Detective]
#22502613 - 11/09/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroom Detective said:
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O'REILLY: Now I'm going to take your word for all this, doctor. I'm going to believe you. You're not going to let me down, are you?
CARSON: Of course not. I mean, I -- you know, lying I believe is a grave sin. And there's just no way I would be sitting here lying about something like this. It's just beyond belief.
O'REILLY: All right.
Finally, you're starting to make decent posts! Two more lies. One, that he wouldn't let O'Reilly down (he did lie about being offered a scholarship). And two, that he believes lying is a grave sin. Keep it up, you're doing good!!!
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Meh, he was a youngster in ROTC while in either high school or college; obvious, that was a very long time ago for him, and his interests were led elsewhere (medical school). It stands to reason that at such a young age, with interests elsewhere, he would have little understanding of exactly how all worked at West Point. Quite apparent the libtard press is attempting to make a mountain out of an insignificant mole hill.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
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Meanwhile, you and I both know you FAILed to be able to properly identify my grandfather's B-17 Bomber within the photograph that I sent you, even with its ten man crew standing directly in front of it; so, whom are you to try and speak up about this matter? Certainly never Air Force, as you have claimed.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Shroom Detective]
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If this is all the left has to go after him with, they're in BIG trouble
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Meanwhile, we have low-life Alinksy loving Hillary lying about more things than she can recall, ever since her college days (probably prior, as well), and the libtard press pathetically attempts to continue scooping her dog poop, as if it isn't beyond toxic/smelly runny.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Shroom Detective]
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Shroom Detective said: It stands to reason that at such a young age, with interests elsewhere, he would have little understanding of exactly how all worked at West Point. Quite apparent the libtard press is attempting to make a mountain out of an insignificant mole hill.
If what you just described is what people were upset about, then I would agree that is making a mountain out of a molehill.
You posted a video above where Carson clearly stated "I never said I got a scholarship, I had people who said 'yes' that I could get a scholarship to West Point". But in fact he DID claim to get a scholarship, and I posted the video evidence here.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Your video link does NOT show him saying he got a scholarship. I've been offered a lot of things that I didn't get. That talking point is so fucking thin it is invisible. And if you are counting on nonsense like that to Bring Carson down you should start licking your wounds now.
But the talking point worked, it got people arguing over bullshit rather than listening.
I am betting the next attack will be trotting out some obscure old liberal hags with vague stories about Carson trying to slip 'em the ole blacksnake.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: starfire_xes]
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starfire_xes said: Your video link does NOT show him saying he got a scholarship.
I heard him say "I was offered a full scholarship to West Point". What do you hear him say???
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Yup, sounds like another "gotcha" question, liberals love them, discussion of the issues, not so much...
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: hostileuniverse]
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He wrote that in his book "Gifted Hands". There are no "gotcha" questions involved in writing a book.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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WEST POINT IS 100% PAID FOR. SCHOLARSHIP IS MOOT. Everybody who goes to West point is on scholarship. Are you people stupid or willfully ignorant?
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said: WEST POINT IS 100% PAID FOR. SCHOLARSHIP IS MOOT. Everybody who goes to West point is on scholarship. Are you people stupid or willfully ignorant?
Carson was never accepted to West Point. He never even applied! Are you stupid, or willfully ignorant???
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said: WEST POINT IS 100% PAID FOR. SCHOLARSHIP IS MOOT. Everybody who goes to West point is on scholarship. Are you people stupid or willfully ignorant?
A little bit both I'd guess, stupid because this the best shot they have at taking Carson down, wiffully ignorant because the idea of them losing their grasp on the black vote terrifies them and they can't admit that someone as smart as Carson could possibly be an "evil republican"
Blacks, Browns, reds, yellers, they all waking up to the fact that liberalism is complete BS and only wants to enslave them (again) and that terrifies the democrats...
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: hostileuniverse]
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More straw man arguments.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22506798 - 11/10/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: More straw man arguments. 
Uh,'got' and 'offered' dont mean the same thing
I was offered a 35,000 line of credit by a commercial bank.
I didn't get the credit.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: starfire_xes]
#22506966 - 11/10/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Were you offered $35,000 credit or did you get an application for $35,000 credit?
If you were offered $35,000 credit and accepted it, the bank is legally obligated to give it to you (subject to the terms of the offer). I suspect you simply got an application for $35,000 credit.
Hoping Enlil will weigh in...
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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You guys still arguing if the semantics of this? If Carson wanted to go to West Point, he could have, not sure what arguing over the definition of "is" is all aboot, other than desperately trying to discredit a black republican...
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: hostileuniverse]
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No one is arguing about whether he was qualified to get into WestPoint or not, though it's not automatic given you need your congressman to nominate you, and some congress persons might choose to give their annual slot to family/friends/donors.
He lied about being offered a scholarship, and that's been proven. If Carson wants to put this behind him, he simply has to say he was wrong about saying that he was offered a scholarship.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22508942 - 11/11/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Okay then, herp a derp
"Black republican"? This cannot be!
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22508949 - 11/11/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Westmoreland saying he can get him into the academy is a lie? Prove it. this is almost 50 years old and its all the D's have? They are desperate.
Game Over. Get a life FAL. He didn't do what the hit piece said--THEY lied.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: starfire_xes]
#22509003 - 11/11/15 11:48 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said: Westmoreland saying he can get him into the academy is a lie? Prove it. this is almost 50 years old and its all the D's have? They are desperate.
Game Over. Get a life FAL. He didn't do what the hit piece said--THEY lied.
*desperately grasping at straws*
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: starfire_xes]
#22509041 - 11/11/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said: Westmoreland saying he can get him into the academy is a lie? Prove it.
I already proved it; you're just proving you're not listening. People can only get into the academies by one of the these methods. Notice "Chief of Staff" isn't on the list.
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starfire_xes said: this is almost 50 years old and its all the D's have? They are desperate.
If you want to argue about the importance of this, I'll agree it's not very high. But that wasn't the argument; it's whether he lied or not (he did).
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starfire_xes said: Game Over. Get a life FAL. He didn't do what the hit piece said--THEY lied.
I showed he lied, and you saying "Game over" "He didn't" doesn't change the facts. You're not living up to your reputation as being one of the smart conservatives by ignoring facts and simply proclaiming victory.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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OK, tell me this: If the Joint Chiefs of Staff goes to Congress and says 'I want this guy in the academy' he isn't going to get in?
The JC is the most politically connected officer in the US.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: starfire_xes]
#22509119 - 11/11/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said: OK, tell me this: If the Joint Chiefs of Staff goes to Congress and says 'I want this guy in the academy' he isn't going to get in?
The JC is the most politically connected officer in the US.
It depends. The only Congressperson that can select Carson is the Congressperson overseeing Carson's district. If that Congressperson has a son or daughter that wants to get into West Point that same year (for example), he might not care about Westmoreland's recommendation. Or he might have a Congressman like I had when I applied who only cares about the overall ranking of the applicant, and there might be someone who is more qualified that particular year, so the recommendation would be ignored. A good deal of luck plays into as well.
Carson would have had a good chance of getting in. But he wasn't offered a scholarship, and he lied about that.
Is it a big deal? That's a different question.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22509986 - 11/11/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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If Carson OR Trump gets nomination, Republicans lose.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: mycoprog]
#22510508 - 11/11/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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mycoprog said: If Carson OR Trump gets nomination, Republicans lose.
maybe, but isn't this the same thing the GOP was told in '08 and '12, that we have to nominate a "moderate" if we wanna win, yes, I do remember that
the left is hell bent on taking down Trump and Carson now, why? because they tell us who they fear, we just have to be smart enough to listen...
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: hostileuniverse]
#22510953 - 11/11/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Watch Ben Carson Take On the Media at the GOP Debate
http://time.com/4107641/carson-debate-media/
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Shroom Detective]
#22511266 - 11/11/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well golly gosh, he claims he didn't lie. I guess we'll just have to ignore the evidence and believe him then???
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22511286 - 11/11/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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You lie. Another point in case: you recently said you were done arguing with me.
Lie. Lie. Lie...
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Shroom Detective]
#22511373 - 11/11/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroom Detective said: You lie. Another point in case: you recently said you were done arguing with me.
Lie. Lie. Lie...


And don't let it go until he says "I'm a liar" anything less is UNACCEPTABLE!
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Shroom Detective]
#22511461 - 11/11/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroom Detective said: Another point in case:
Do you mean "case in point?" :V
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: micro]
#22511479 - 11/11/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroom Detective said: Another point in case:
Do you mean "case in point?" :V
That I do, and thank you very much!
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: micro]
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Shroom Detective said: Another point in case:
Do you mean "case in point?" :V
Wait, did you mean "case in point"? :V
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Shroom Detective]
#22511674 - 11/11/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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You are correct in that I was wrong about not arguing with you anymore. When you flash your ignorance, I can't help but call it out. But that doesn't mean I'm wrong about Carson lying. If you have evidence that he didn't claim he was offered a scholarship, I'm all ears.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22511711 - 11/11/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: You are correct in that I was wrong about not arguing with you anymore...
Yes, I am; moreover, I knew that upon reading your initial claim, as did probably most other posters. So, let us see you type the words that you are a liar, please, and then we may be satisfied. This is how you should do it:
"I, Falcon91Wolvrn03, am a BIG FAT LIAR; so much so, that my pants are on fire".
We will patiently wait.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Shroom Detective]
#22511715 - 11/11/15 09:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroom Detective said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: You are correct in that I was wrong about not arguing with you anymore...
Yes, I am; moreover, I knew that upon reading your initial claim, as did probably most other posters. So, let us see you type the words that you are a liar, please, and then we may be satisfied. This is how you should do it:
"I, Falcon, am a BIG FAT LIAR; so much so, that my pants are on fire".
We will patiently wait.
You just quoted me saying I was wrong. Can you not read?
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22511719 - 11/11/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Really sloppy stupid talk from someone who would lead, as he offered it as an aside to the question at hand it makes for me his judgement suspect as a leader. I think it's a lie, considering that he's bright and was in the ROTC.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22511720 - 11/11/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Still waiting. I wish to quote you and make it my signature line, forever and ever.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: falcon]
#22511724 - 11/11/15 09:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Of course it's a lie. West Point said they never offered him a scholarship as he never even applied!
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22511727 - 11/11/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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And that he wouldn't know the process of acceptance is absurd.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: falcon]
#22511735 - 11/11/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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He should have kept to the, It's not brain surgery, theme in his campaign for the presidency.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Shroom Detective]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: You are correct in that I was wrong about not arguing with you anymore...
Yes, I am; moreover, I knew that upon reading your initial claim, as did probably most other posters. So, let us see you type the words that you are a liar, please, and then we may be satisfied. This is how you should do it:
"I, Falcon, am a BIG FAT LIAR; so much so, that my pants are on fire".
We will patiently wait.
Here you go:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: You are correct in that I was wrong about not arguing with you anymore. When you flash your ignorance, I can't help but call it out.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Shroom Detective]
#22511749 - 11/11/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroom Detective said: Wait, did you mean "case in point"? :V 
No. I specifically meant to put the question mark inside the quotes.
The quoted material is part of the interrogative statement as a whole.
If it were not and it formed a separate statement, for example:
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Did you mean "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog"?
It would go on the outside instead.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Shroom Detective]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03, type it!
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"I, Falcon91Wolvrn03, am a BIG FAT LIAR; so much so, that my pants are on fire".
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Shroom Detective]
#22511847 - 11/11/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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After you admit Carson lied about being offered a scholarship to West Point.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22511861 - 11/11/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I cannot do so. I do not know if he made a false statement with deliberate intent; however, I know that you did so. Type it!
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Shroom Detective]
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Shroom Detective said: I do not know if he made a false statement with deliberate intent
At least you admit Carson made a false statement.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Shroom Detective]
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I did no such thing, but you obviously FAIL to acknowledge your own.
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"I, Falcon91Wolvrn03, am a BIG FAT LIAR; so much so, that my pants are on fire".
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: micro]
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Shroom Detective said: Wait, did you mean "case in point"? :V 
No. I specifically meant to put the question mark inside the quotes.
The quoted material is part of the interrogative statement as a whole.
If it were not and it formed a separate statement, for example:
Quote:
Did you mean "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog"?
It would go on the outside instead.
I appreciate it, though <3
Please forgive my temporary delay, Micro (I was not attempting to be rude to you via such). Now that Falcon...appears to be at a loss for necessary words, I shall reply. With due respect, I believe your question mark should be located upon the outside of your closing quotation mark.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: mycoprog] 1
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mycoprog said: If Carson OR Trump gets nomination, Republicans lose.
If Hitlery OR Santa, whoops I mean Sanders, gets nominated, the Democrats lose.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Shroom Detective]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Here you go: "You are correct in that I was wrong about not arguing with you anymore. When you flash your ignorance, I can't help but call it out."
I do not know if he made a false statement with deliberate intent
At least you admit Carson made a false statement. 
I did no such thing, but you obviously FAIL to acknowledge your own.
This is why I said I would stop arguing with you. You acknowledged Carson made a false statement in your quote above, and I told you I was wrong about not arguing with you anymore, yet you continue to insist neither is true.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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zappaisgod said: WEST POINT IS 100% PAID FOR. SCHOLARSHIP IS MOOT. Everybody who goes to West point is on scholarship. Are you people stupid or willfully ignorant?
Carson was never accepted to West Point. He never even applied! Are you stupid, or willfully ignorant???
He didn't say he was. Are you thick? Do you not think he wouldn't have gotten in? He didn't exactly have your credentials. I am sure lots of people told him he could get in.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22514933 - 11/12/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Of course it's a lie. West Point said they never offered him a scholarship as he never even applied!
Everybody who goes gets a scholarship.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: zappaisgod]
#22515183 - 11/12/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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If my grandma told me I ought to be able to get a scholarship to Harvard, does that mean I can tell everyone I was offered a scholarship to Harvard?
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22515234 - 11/12/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I said I would stop arguing with you.
You lied. Type it:
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"I, Falcon91Wolvrn03, am a BIG FAT LIAR; so much so, that my pants are on fire".
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22518794 - 11/13/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: If my grandma told me I ought to be able to get a scholarship to Harvard, does that mean I can tell everyone I was offered a scholarship to Harvard? 
I have absolutely no doubt that more than one person told Carson they could get him into West Point and everybody who goes there is on scholarship. Given the consistent quality of your posts I doubt anybody would tell you that. Even your grandmother.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: zappaisgod]
#22519055 - 11/13/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Do you not think he wouldn't have gotten in?
I don't, he didn't want to be an engineer, he could not have pursued a career in medicine for at least 10 years had he pursued it. Also no one gets you into West Point they sponsor you, it seem to me to be purposefully misleading the way he presents his offers of sponsorship for admission to West Point, I doubt that any of these people would have to told him he was a shoo-in and that's the way he makes it sound.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: zappaisgod]
#22519118 - 11/13/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: If my grandma told me I ought to be able to get a scholarship to Harvard, does that mean I can tell everyone I was offered a scholarship to Harvard? 
I have absolutely no doubt that more than one person told Carson they could get him into West Point and everybody who goes there is on scholarship.
It doesn't matter if 50,000 people told him he should be able to get a scholarship to West Point. The fact is that HE WASN'T OFFERED A SCHOLARSHIP TO WEST POINT.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: falcon]
#22522664 - 11/14/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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falcon said:
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zappaisgod said: Do you not think he wouldn't have gotten in?
I don't, he didn't want to be an engineer, he could not have pursued a career in medicine for at least 10 years had he pursued it. Also no one gets you into West Point they sponsor you, it seem to me to be purposefully misleading the way he presents his offers of sponsorship for admission to West Point, I doubt that any of these people would have to told him he was a shoo-in and that's the way he makes it sound.
I don't doubt it for one minute. Do you have any idea what this man has accomplished?
Make no mistake I don't particularly want him as president. I don't think he is suited for the job. And I know Trump is a scumbag.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22522667 - 11/14/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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zappaisgod said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: If my grandma told me I ought to be able to get a scholarship to Harvard, does that mean I can tell everyone I was offered a scholarship to Harvard? 
I have absolutely no doubt that more than one person told Carson they could get him into West Point and everybody who goes there is on scholarship.
It doesn't matter if 50,000 people told him he should be able to get a scholarship to West Point. The fact is that HE WASN'T OFFERED A SCHOLARSHIP TO WEST POINT.
Are you really that slow? Everybody who goes to West Point gets a scholarship. Something that you probably never saw.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: zappaisgod]
#22527488 - 11/15/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Are you really that slow? Everybody who goes to West Point gets a scholarship.
YES, I'VE AGREED WITH YOU ON THIS SINCE THE BEGINNING. Let me repeat a previous statement, since you are obviously the slow one:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Carson didn't go to West Point, nor was he offered a scholarship from West Point. . . . Carson would have had a good chance of getting in. But he wasn't offered a scholarship, and he lied about that.
There's even a video above where Carson says:
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I never said I got a scholarship, I had people who said 'yes' that I could get a scholarship to West Point
Yet he said "I was offered a full scholarship to West Point" so this quote was yet another lie. Get it now?
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Edited by Falcon91Wolvrn03 (11/15/15 01:19 PM)
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22528757 - 11/15/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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zappaisgod said: Are you really that slow? Everybody who goes to West Point gets a scholarship.
YES, I'VE AGREED WITH YOU ON THIS SINCE THE BEGINNING. Let me repeat a previous statement, since you are obviously the slow one:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Carson didn't go to West Point, nor was he offered a scholarship from West Point. . . . Carson would have had a good chance of getting in. But he wasn't offered a scholarship, and he lied about that.
There's even a video above where Carson says:
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I never said I got a scholarship, I had people who said 'yes' that I could get a scholarship to West Point
Yet he said "I was offered a full scholarship to West Point" so this quote was yet another lie. Get it now?
i get it, and 100% agree with you, someone said if he wanted to go to west point, they'd give him the scholarship, but he never went so no paperwork was filed, you wanna quibble over this, go right ahead, if this is the best you got for the general, y'all fuckers are DOOMED! LMFAO!
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: hostileuniverse]
#22530014 - 11/15/15 11:01 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: i get it, and 100% agree with you, someone said if he wanted to go to west point, they'd give him the scholarship, but he never went so no paperwork was filed, you wanna quibble over this, go right ahead, if this is the best you got for the general, y'all fuckers are DOOMED! LMFAO!
I'm glad you understand, because the OP and a few others clearly don't.
And I don't think you get it either. General Westmoreland had zero authority to give out West Point scholarships, and he knows that being a West Point graduate himself. I already showed you who does. So Carson couldn't have been offered a scholarship by Westmoreland.
It may not be a big issue, but please don't lie about Carson not lying.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22530569 - 11/16/15 05:23 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: i get it, and 100% agree with you, someone said if he wanted to go to west point, they'd give him the scholarship, but he never went so no paperwork was filed, you wanna quibble over this, go right ahead, if this is the best you got for the general, y'all fuckers are DOOMED! LMFAO!
I'm glad you understand, because the OP and a few others clearly don't.
And I don't think you get it either. General Westmoreland had zero authority to give out West Point scholarships, and he knows that being a West Point graduate himself. I already showed you who does. So Carson couldn't have been offered a scholarship by Westmoreland.
It may not be a big issue, but please don't lie about Carson not lying.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: hostileuniverse]
#22532854 - 11/16/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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So your saying it's cool if Carson lies about issues that aren't that big to you?
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22536171 - 11/17/15 06:35 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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So your saying it's cool if Carson lies about issues that aren't that big to you? 
I don't care about Carson misrepresenting his chances of getting into westpoint. I do however care about the bitch lying about her emails and being so dumb as to let classified info be subject to hackers.
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Re: POLITICO ADMITS TO FABRICATING PIECE ON ben CARSON [Re: Webster10]
#22536759 - 11/17/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fair enough - and on that we can agree.
I wish other people were more honest, so we can spend more time discussing the issues rather than what's fact vs fiction.
Edited by Falcon91Wolvrn03 (11/17/15 11:19 AM)
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