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Konyap

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#22493587 - 11/07/15 11:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1125380
https://wikileaks.org/tpp-ip3/WikiLe...lsaWQ9MTAwMzA=
From FFTF email: Last week, WikiLeaks released the final text of the TPP’s intellectual property rights chapter and it is absolutely terrifying.
These are just a few of its most dangerous pieces:
Compel ISPs to take down websites without any sort of court order, just like SOPA. (Appendix Section I)
Extend the US’s copyright regime to require copyrights stand for life plus 70 years, preventing anyone from using works that belong in the public domain. (Article QQ.G.6)
Criminalize whistleblowing by extending trade secrets laws without any mandatory exemptions for whistleblowers or investigative journalists. (QQ.H.8)
End anonymity online by forcing every domain name to be associated with a real name and address. (Article QQ.C.12)
Make it illegal to unlock, modify, or generally tinker with a device you own. (Article QQ.G.10)
Export the US’s broken copyright policies to the rest of the world without expanding any of the free speech protections, like fair use. (Article QQ.G.17)
The worst part is that this is just one of the TPP’s 30 chapters.
edit nvm just copy right bullshit
Edited by Konyap (11/07/15 11:42 PM)
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Konyap

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Re: NWO post [Re: Konyap]
#22493609 - 11/07/15 11:44 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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ah fuck here we go
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online public access to a reliable and accurate database of contact information concerning domain-name registrants;
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Re: NWO post [Re: Konyap] 2
#22493623 - 11/07/15 11:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is why I'm for smaller government - so small they don't have time to be fascists.
Ideas - absolutely terrifying to the power class!
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Konyap

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they dont' have the power to enforce any of this shit but copyright used to be like 25 years, now that shit is like 140 years lol wtf
and then the whistle blowers thing, and I've seen actual videos that say the court that judges you is outside of your countries law
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Re: NWO post [Re: Konyap]
#22493627 - 11/07/15 11:54 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: NWO post [Re: Konyap]
#22494266 - 11/08/15 04:34 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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End anonymity online
No doubt one day this will be attempted but at the moment its near impossible, heres why...
Connect with a VPN Run Kali Linux and load chainproxy Forge your mac address with macchanger Run through a bunch of proxy servers Open TOR VPN
Additionally crack a neighbours wifi using a handshake capture or WPS brute force or fake AP OR use a public AP.
Once you've taken these steps (its pretty fast and easy) you're going to be completely anon online and very difficult to find. 
The gov so far cannot stop this. They would need to shut down proxys and VPNs GLOBALLY. Think about the difficulty and legal nightmare of a task this is.
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Re: NWO post [Re: Konyap] 2
#22494343 - 11/08/15 05:53 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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It is so silly and bizzare to try to control everything, simply for power. I am baffled as to why certain human beings crave POWER and will almost anything to attain the transient state of power. What even is the point of it all, when the in the grand scheme of things they are a shit stain on a dust particle.
Mind you, I don't mean to put-down life etc... it is a manner of speech.
I do not think that people are willing to give up their privacy and freedom that easily but never mind what I have seen, I have seen 'idiots' as well as 'intelligent' so called people in both political extremes.
Personally, I try to do my bit and try not to get all anxious about it but sometimes I can't help it.
THEY are not coming. THEY are already here.
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Re: NWO post [Re: Konyap] 2
#22494438 - 11/08/15 06:45 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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We are seeing the acceleration of tyranny. There is more tyranny being passed now every quarter right now than used to happen in a year.
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Control is the primary desire next to sex. Money represents control. Its modern slavery via debt based barter.
To control is to aquire all the things people want, if you have it you get the women, the possesions etc.
I don't agree with it but I can understand it. I only don't agree with it because I have no control or money and don't like being a slave.
If I was rich and had it I probably would be the same as them.
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its much much easier to find you than you think, those are just condoms, non will actually protect u.
1.For the public wifi spots they are always covered in camera's, so you don't even have the ability to claim it was someone else.
2. VPN's most require records, all will turn them over nomatter what they claim
3. Lastly, with the vast matrix of information being collected its very easy to find you, no vpn, not even tor can hide you if someone see's an IP and wants to know who it is....DDOS them and then run a search via matrix of ISP records to see who got fucked via timestamp.
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Re: NWO post [Re: Konyap]
#22494601 - 11/08/15 07:58 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Konyap said: they dont' have the power to enforce any of this shit but copyright used to be like 25 years, now that shit is like 140 years lol wtf
and then the whistle blowers thing, and I've seen actual videos that say the court that judges you is outside of your countries law
it's a trade agreement, nothing more, you're relying on an unreliable source that's already been taken down or because you fail at hotlinking. this isnt something ushering in a bunch of new laws that prevent people from doing shit
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Konyap said: they dont' have the power to enforce any of this shit but copyright used to be like 25 years, now that shit is like 140 years lol wtf
and then the whistle blowers thing, and I've seen actual videos that say the court that judges you is outside of your countries law
it's a trade agreement, nothing more, you're relying on an unreliable source that's already been taken down or because you fail at hotlinking. this isnt something ushering in a bunch of new laws that prevent people from doing shit
Treaties have the force of federal law, pris.
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a treaty between nations is between those governments, not between the people and the government, a government doesnt sign a treaty between it's self and it's people, it passes legislation and as such a treaty between nations cannot be enforced against citizens living in another country, if I violate a section of the treaty and borneo is upset, borneo can petition the government to have me stop but if what I'm doing does not violate an act of law in the US then I have committed no crime
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Treaty commitments of the United States are of two kinds. In the language of Chief Justice Marshall in 1829: “A treaty is, in its nature, a contract between two nations, not a legislative act. It does not generally effect, of itself, the object to be accomplished; especially, so far as its operation is intraterritorial; but is carried into execution by the sovereign power of the respective parties to the instrument.”
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Decisions of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) interpreting treaties, however, have “no binding force except between the parties and in respect of that particular case.”19 ICJ decisions “are therefore entitled only to the ‘respectful consideration’ due an interpretation of an international agreement by an international court.”20
Even when an ICJ decision has binding force as between the governments of two nations, it is not necessarily enforceable by the individuals affected. If, for example, the ICJ finds that the United States violated a particular defendant’s rights under international law, and such a decision “constitutes an international law obligation on the part of the United States,” it does not necessarily “constitute binding federal law enforceable in United States courts…
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makaveli8x8 said: its much much easier to find you than you think, those are just condoms, non will actually protect u.
1.For the public wifi spots they are always covered in camera's, so you don't even have the ability to claim it was someone else.
2. VPN's most require records, all will turn them over nomatter what they claim
3. Lastly, with the vast matrix of information being collected its very easy to find you, no vpn, not even tor can hide you if someone see's an IP and wants to know who it is....DDOS them and then run a search via matrix of ISP records to see who got fucked via timestamp.
Condoms do protect you somewhat.
If someones running through vpns and proxies you can't get their IP to ddos them. Thats the point in chain proxies.
Have you ever heard of a directional WIFI pre-amp? You can get a WIFI several kilometers away. CCTV can't see that far.
If you get a VPN off-shore with no treaties then they have no reason to give up customer info to your government. Its not profitable.
Imagine the time, money, effort, legal complications and communications involved in tracing someone using a VPN, multiple proxies and TOR as I described.
Then imagine doing this to millions of people. I'd hardly call that easy.
When VPNs and proxy servers are made illegal AND your gov has treaties/sanctions with every other country to enforce these and they indeed are being enforced, then you have a problem.
Edited by nice1returns (11/08/15 08:31 AM)
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Hey everybody! The prisoner says it's fine! Go about your buisness...
Tip toe..
It's just the door opening man.
"if I violate a section of the treaty and borneo is upset, borneo can petition the government to have me stop but if what I'm doing does not violate an act of law in the US then I have committed no crime"
If they arent going to enforce it then why would they sign it? This is about companies, it's not like the UNs genocide policy they use whenever they want..
I mean look at gitmo! We have the forth amendment and because these people aren't citizens and aren't on US soil they choose to keep these people without a trial. Shit there's a thread in SNS about what cops were doing in Chicago fCs..
but come on, post more gobbl-do-gook and huge pics...
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MichAnon.ael said: Hey everybody! The prisoner says it's fine! Go about your buisness...
Tip toe..
It's just the door opening man.
"if I violate a section of the treaty and borneo is upset, borneo can petition the government to have me stop but if what I'm doing does not violate an act of law in the US then I have committed no crime"
If they arent going to enforce it then why would they sign it? This is about companies, it's not like the UNs genocide policy they use whenever they want..
I mean look at gitmo! We have the forth amendment and because these people aren't citizens and aren't on US soil they choose to keep these people without a trial. Shit there's a thread in SNS about what cops were doing in Chicago fCs..
but come on, post more gobbl-do-gook and huge pics...
because it's a trade agreement, it has no bearing on us other than economics, it's not something enforcable on the populace unless they are violating an actual law
but hey, if you wanna run around and chicken little this shit and claim the sky is falling while everyone around you looks at you like a dumbass, then please feel free to carry on
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right but when your tunnel gets ddos'd your link to whatever u were requesting goes down, so from an ISP standpoint there is a log of a break in data request, so then u match the timestamp of the ddos to the data break.
takes alot of data mining but it can be done, thats what they are building or trying to build, the ability to capture all this data
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