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Was what I took really 2cb?
#22493035 - 11/07/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hello!
Yesterday 2 friends and I took 20mg of 2cb for the first time. It was pre weighed in a gel capsule - looked like a very small amount of white powder. I was expecting a very lucid, easy to control trip with some euphoria like people say, but that is not what we got.
It kicked in about 45 minutes after ingestion, and puked during the come up. During the peak the visuals were the most intense I've ever experienced. I could barely see anything. I've taken LSD numerous times, shrooms, and DMT. I would like to consider myself a pretty experienced tripper - 500ug of LSD was completely fine for me. This stuff came close to or maybe even exceeded the intensity and visuals from DMT. We were all very scared and confused (complete ego loss), but found some trip sitters to sit with us through it. We eventually came out of it, and each agreed that it had taken a toll on our minds. I experienced no euphoria. I also smoke weed very frequently but when the trip sitters began to smoke the smell was repulsive and I had to get away (so did one of my friends). This effect is still kind of there when I smell weed, but no where near the extent during the trip.
What we got was nothing compared to other 20mg 2cb trip reports - we were completely dysfunctional, definitely would not be able to party on it like some people do. I've never taken ayahuasca, but I imagine that trip is what it'd be like. Is there anyway we actually took 2cb? How could this have happened? Thank you.
Also, if it matters I took amoxicillin the day before, but I doubt that has anything to do with it since we all tripped very hard.
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: TrippyWhale]
#22493047 - 11/07/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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maybe they gave u 200mg instead of 20mg haha
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Sheekle]
#22493188 - 11/07/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: maybe they gave u 200mg instead of 20mg haha
Haha I doubt it. The amount in the capsule was literally a very small pinch.
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: TrippyWhale]
#22493297 - 11/07/15 10:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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IDK, i've taken like 12mg of 2CB and it basically just made me "roll". But I heard there's a steep dosage-response curve with 2C's
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: TrippyWhale]
#22493305 - 11/07/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I always have to laugh when I see people talk about 500 mics like it's nothing. You've been over estimating your LSD dosages. In regards to the capsule, no one here can answer that. Could've been any number of drugs.
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Dark_Star]
#22493533 - 11/07/15 11:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: I always have to laugh when I see people talk about 500 mics like it's nothing. You've been over estimating your LSD dosages. In regards to the capsule, no one here can answer that. Could've been any number of drugs.
IF you mean that I'm just guessing I took 500ug, then no. I knew the amount in each tab. It was from a VERY reliable source and has been tested before. From what I've gathered 500ug of LSD should be a much more intense trip than 20mg of 2cb.
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: TrippyWhale]
#22493548 - 11/07/15 11:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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It is. You said it was completely fine for you, then mentioned DMT strength visuals & ego loss from the mystery capsule. No way have you actually taken anywhere near 500 mics of LSD if what you just described caught you off guard & was more intense than the "500 mic" trip.
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Dark_Star]
#22493565 - 11/07/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I doubt it was 2cb. It could have been a much higher dose of 2cb, but from the details, it doesn't sound like it.
A high dose can leave you unable to function, but you will feel fantastic. And no matter the dose, there's not really ego death.
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: TrippyWhale]
#22493582 - 11/07/15 11:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nah, you were guessing. Plenty of "reliable sources" vastly overhype their doses. Particularly DNM vendors that post about their shit being tested. When customers send them for a test the results come back way less. 500 mics is a massive dose. If your description of the cap was more intense then 500 mics, you didn't take anywhere near 500 mics, end of story.
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Dark_Star]
#22495820 - 11/08/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: Nah, you were guessing. Plenty of "reliable sources" vastly overhype their doses. Particularly DNM vendors that post about their shit being tested. When customers send them for a test the results come back way less. 500 mics is a massive dose. If your description of the cap was more intense then 500 mics, you didn't take anywhere near 500 mics, end of story.
Again, no. The tabs were rated at 110-130ug from House of Spirits. I took 500ug dude lol, that is not that massive of a dose really. Yes it was also intense but I was in control and loved it. Sorry I can handle some LSD? Just because you react differently doesn't mean you can just dismiss the fact that I DID take 500mics. That trip was also very immersive and strong but not like this one.
The shit I took was way more intense, visually and mentally, and had no euphoria, which was why I am guessing it might not have been 2cb. That was the original question - how could 20mg of "2cb" be much more intense and uncontrollable than other trips I've had in high doses.
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: TrippyWhale]
#22498811 - 11/09/15 01:12 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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man... Dark_Star, you are really being smugly dismissive for no good reason. He asks a question and you tear him apart for a single detail in the OP, that mind you does not pertain to his question since 20mg of 2C-B will not elicit that type of response in anyone.
@Trippywhale: be glad you're safe and don't take mysterious powders again. Use reagent tests!!
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: TrippyWhale]
#22499622 - 11/09/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: maybe they gave u 200mg instead of 20mg haha
Haha I doubt it. The amount in the capsule was literally a very small pinch.
From what I've read about 2C-E, about 30-40mg of 2C-E could do all that. It could have been 2C-E.
Then again, it could have been anything. Perhaps a microgram active substance laced onto some other 2C-x.
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Dark_Star]
#22499835 - 11/09/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: I always have to laugh when I see people talk about 500 mics like it's nothing. You've been over estimating your LSD dosages. In regards to the capsule, no one here can answer that. Could've been any number of drugs.
In my town not only is the L really bad quality but it's dosed very low. I can't but help assume that it's like this in other places and people just don't KNOW. You have to show them what a real dose is and they're BLOWN away.
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What's the difference between 2C-B 2c-e and 2c-i? I've heard best things from 2cb, but posts like this scare me to try it
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Heisencybin]
#22500389 - 11/09/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've only used 2c-b, I believe. But from what I've heard 2C-E is the most aggressively psychedelic, and with a very sensitive dose response curve. 5mg too much and you are totally tripping balls. I'm still interested in trying it, but will dose very conservatively.
Bottom line is Shulgin thought 2C-B was the best, and the stories out there confirm this, I think. When I did my 2C-B, many years ago, I was not aware of any other 2C-X's other than perhaps 2C-T(7). I assume I did actual 2C-B, but of course there is no way to know now.
I do suspect though, some of the pills that are currently sold as 2C-B could very well be a mixture of other, cheaper 2C-X's like -C, -D, and/or E.
Do a search, on this site, or the erowid experience vault. Some good stories to compare 2C-X's will come up.
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Hanz]
#22500398 - 11/09/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks I will I've heard both positive and negatives from 2cb. I love L and mush so it's reasonable for me to be curious
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Heisencybin]
#22500410 - 11/09/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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It might have been due to the weed. I took 2cb a couple days ago for the first time. It was 23 mgs from a buddy. It's a bit dissaciocative, and pretty visual. It wasn't a big thing until I got home and smoked a bowl on the comedown.
My eyes exploded with visuals and weird auditory hallucinations. Like a cartoon naked man with a beard singing some weird song and then "leaving" my space. The weed increased the intensity quite a bit.
If you were high when you dosed, and then smoke later, I could see all these effects from 2cb. If you didn't smoke at all until the trip, you might have taken another chemical or a much higher dose.
Or you could just have not liked 2cb. Some people really can't handle the dissociative effects and just don't like 2cb.
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Achillita]
#22500471 - 11/09/15 01:18 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Achillita said: It might have been due to the weed. I took 2cb a couple days ago for the first time. It was 23 mgs from a buddy. It's a bit dissaciocative, and pretty visual. It wasn't a big thing until I got home and smoked a bowl on the comedown.
My eyes exploded with visuals and weird auditory hallucinations. Like a cartoon naked man with a beard singing some weird song and then "leaving" my space. The weed increased the intensity quite a bit.
If you were high when you dosed, and then smoke later, I could see all these effects from 2cb. If you didn't smoke at all until the trip, you might have taken another chemical or a much higher dose.
Or you could just have not liked 2cb. Some people really can't handle the dissociative effects and just don't like 2cb.
Even when i eat a very small dose like 1.5g of shrooms and smoke a few bowls it is a major change vs just eating 1.5gs alone, I've never done andy 2C anything but i'm assuming it'd be similar/or stronger and intensify the effects. But who knows haha
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With 2cb, smoking weed is even stronger than on any other psychedelics. It definitely makes the 2cb trip much, much stronger. I was on the latter end of the comedown and smoking weed was stronger than 2cb by itself.
Weed and 2cb are hella strong together.
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Achillita]
#22500648 - 11/09/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Achillita said: With 2cb, smoking weed is even stronger than on any other psychedelics. It definitely makes the 2cb trip much, much stronger. I was on the latter end of the comedown and smoking weed was stronger than 2cb by itself.
Weed and 2cb are hella strong together.
They affect me differently To me the two highs don't mix, they layer up, like i'll be tripping balls, and then smoke some weed, but then i'm just stoned on top of tripping balls, like trying to mix oil and water  With tryptamines when I smoke it makes the trip crazier and makes the tone of the trip different.
I just can't imagine it being 2cb based on no euphoria, because for me it is one of the most euphoric substances, but still drugs affect people differently so who knows
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: madmodder]
#22500725 - 11/09/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I did not smoke any weed during the trip. The smell of the smoke from the blunt that was being passed around was so putrid I had to physically run away (same with my friend...how weird right?).
I've always been the best with controlling myself while tripping, but this stuff was a whole other world (VERY close to ~40mg DMT). When looking down at the ground I literally saw people (ents, like on DMT) that were not there standing around me waving in my face.
The only conclusion I can come to is that it was probably another 2C-X or crazy RC. Really wish I would have had a proper 2cb encounter after hearing all the great things about it, but probably won't try it again out of fear for tripping my god damn balls off again lol.
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Hanz]
#22501315 - 11/09/15 04:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: maybe they gave u 200mg instead of 20mg haha
Haha I doubt it. The amount in the capsule was literally a very small pinch.
From what I've read about 2C-E, about 30-40mg of 2C-E could do all that. It could have been 2C-E.
Then again, it could have been anything. Perhaps a microgram active substance laced onto some other 2C-x.
Love, Hanz.
I was going to say the same thing, but the come up time for oral ingestion doesn't match what I experienced when I ate my 2c-e. The overwhelming visuals match as well, which is one of the most memorable parts of my single oral 2c-e experience.
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: TrippyWhale]
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TrippyWhale said: I did not smoke any weed during the trip. The smell of the smoke from the blunt that was being passed around was so putrid I had to physically run away (same with my friend...how weird right?).
I've always been the best with controlling myself while tripping, but this stuff was a whole other world (VERY close to ~40mg DMT). When looking down at the ground I literally saw people (ents, like on DMT) that were not there standing around me waving in my face.
The only conclusion I can come to is that it was probably another 2C-X or crazy RC. Really wish I would have had a proper 2cb encounter after hearing all the great things about it, but probably won't try it again out of fear for tripping my god damn balls off again lol.
Well you're alive and it sounded like you tripped sack so thats a good time dude regardless
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: TrippyWhale] 1
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No 500 mics is a massive dose. I speak from years of experience, not just taking it, but being involved in the distribution networks, right below the folks laying the crystal. That aspect was many years ago. Doses "rated at" means jack fucking shit. Everyone says that shit. I can't tell you how many 130-150 mic rated hits over the last few years actually test to 70-80 mics when sent to a lab. Albert Hofmann took 250 mics and thought he was dead. Yet kids these days can take 500 mics like it's no big deal? Nope. I've taken that dose & more many times. Knowingly cause It was laid by friends. Also eaten many that had been sent to a lab.
Fact is that the vast majority of people these days don't have the foggiest idea of how potent LSD really is. You guys just eat up whatever dealers say, which is all sales hype. The crystal & dose always change as it moves down the line, and the customers are none the wiser. That's how this business works unfortunately. If I had a dollar for everytime some kid on lot years back tried to sell me "150 mic needlepoint" that was actually 80-90 mics of silver my friends had laid the night before, or "100-120 mic" hits that were actually 50 mics, again from folks I was familar with, I could buy everyone in this thread a sheet. But of course everyone's dealers/vendors are different. Nope.
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Dark_Star]
#22502534 - 11/09/15 08:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said: No 500 mics is a massive dose. I speak from years of experience, not just taking it, but being involved in the distribution networks, right below the folks laying the crystal. That aspect was many years ago. Doses "rated at" means jack fucking shit. Everyone says that shit. I can't tell you how many 130-150 mic rated hits over the last few years actually test to 70-80 mics when sent to a lab. Albert Hofmann took 250 mics and thought he was dead. Yet kids these days can take 500 mics like it's no big deal? Nope. I've taken that dose & more many times. Knowingly cause It was laid by friends. Also eaten many that had been sent to a lab.
Fact is that the vast majority of people these days don't have the foggiest idea of how potent LSD really is. You guys just eat up whatever dealers say, which is all sales hype. The crystal & dose always change as it moves down the line, and the customers are none the wiser. That's how this business works unfortunately. If I had a dollar for everytime some kid on lot years back tried to sell me "150 mic needlepoint" that was actually 80-90 mics of silver my friends had laid the night before, or "100-120 mic" hits that were actually 50 mics, again from folks I was familar with, I could buy everyone in this thread a sheet. But of course everyone's dealers/vendors are different. Nope.

Good for you that you have had that access. You're lucky. But you know what, you're not the only lucky one, so there's no need to dismiss someone anytime they say they knew the dose of what they were taking.
I'm not disagreeing at all that in general doses are much much lower than they say. Of course they are. But I also have hope that people would only quote a figure if they knew - benefit of the doubt and whatnot. I know I would only say it was 500ug if I knew it was and 5 hits or whatever if I didn't.
I wouldn't go so far as to call 500ug a massive dose either for someone who is experienced. For some it is, for some it isn't. It certainly isn't mild, but just because someone can handle themselves on 500ug doesn't mean they aren't on 500ug.
Also -- Albert Hofmann thought he was dead because he just discovered some random chemical that he had no idea the effects of, ingested it, and had a strong LSD trip. Go figure.
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Love2Love]
#22503284 - 11/10/15 01:26 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Love2Love said: I wouldn't go so far as to call 500ug a massive dose either for someone who is experienced. For some it is, for some it isn't. It certainly isn't mild, but just because someone can handle themselves on 500ug doesn't mean they aren't on 500ug.
There is no debate whatsover that 500 mics is a massive dose. You kids and your "reliable sources" are a joke. Good for dark_star for pointing that out.
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Dark_Star]
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Dark_Star said: No 500 mics is a massive dose. I speak from years of experience, not just taking it, but being involved in the distribution networks, right below the folks laying the crystal. That aspect was many years ago. Doses "rated at" means jack fucking shit. Everyone says that shit. I can't tell you how many 130-150 mic rated hits over the last few years actually test to 70-80 mics when sent to a lab. Albert Hofmann took 250 mics and thought he was dead. Yet kids these days can take 500 mics like it's no big deal? Nope. I've taken that dose & more many times. Knowingly cause It was laid by friends. Also eaten many that had been sent to a lab.
Fact is that the vast majority of people these days don't have the foggiest idea of how potent LSD really is. You guys just eat up whatever dealers say, which is all sales hype. The crystal & dose always change as it moves down the line, and the customers are none the wiser. That's how this business works unfortunately. If I had a dollar for everytime some kid on lot years back tried to sell me "150 mic needlepoint" that was actually 80-90 mics of silver my friends had laid the night before, or "100-120 mic" hits that were actually 50 mics, again from folks I was familar with, I could buy everyone in this thread a sheet. But of course everyone's dealers/vendors are different. Nope.

Nope. I took 500 mics, deal with it. Sorry you're not the only one who has taken that much Why do you feel the need to pretend to be apart of some exclusive group? Because YOU and only YOU know the true amount of LSD I took that day? No, please gtfo of my thread. You have done nothing but derail this thread and add negativity. Do not come back.
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: my3rdeye]
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Love2Love said: I wouldn't go so far as to call 500ug a massive dose either for someone who is experienced. For some it is, for some it isn't. It certainly isn't mild, but just because someone can handle themselves on 500ug doesn't mean they aren't on 500ug.
There is no debate whatsover that 500 mics is a massive dose. You kids and your "reliable sources" are a joke. Good for dark_star for pointing that out.
It is ridiculous to say that there is no debate and it's black and white about something that is inherently subjective. Some people are hardheads, and some people just like to go deep.
And I don't appreciate you calling me a kid and a joke. There is no need for that. I earnestly plead for you to conduct yourself in a more respectful manner in the future.
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: TrippyWhale]
#22506772 - 11/10/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nope. You're wrong, and I will continue to point that out. This forum is about dispelling misinformation, and you're spouting out misinformation about one of my most beloved substances. I'm sick & tired of the rep acid has these days because clueless people keep spouting off numbers that they're in no position to be throwing around. You're posting in a forum with a lot of history, and a lot of people with a lot of experience. Not "bought it off the dark net" experience. If you want to boast about eating massive doses like it's nothing without getting called out then go post somewhere else. Otherwise eat a slice of humble pie & learn something.
Love2Love there is no debate. 500 mics is a massive dose, and the subjectivity of the psychedelic experience doesn't change that. I'm a hardhead myself. There was a time when I ate milligrams at a time. At no point did I ever consider 500 mics not to be a massive dose. Because it's a massive fucking dose. Despite all my history, eating a lab tested 75 mic hit got me high a couple years back. Not spun, but high, there were visuals. I knew it was weak though, meanwhile folks on this board were raving about them & they were rated at 120 mics. In regards to Albert, he ate 250 mics on more then one occasion, and would never go higher. Cause he kept getting that high. It wasn't just that first time.
Here's a solid example. This guy took 100 mics of Sandoz. Not "dark net L brah, rated at yadda yadda yadda". Not L bought on lot. 100 mics of pharmaceutical LSD taken in a genuine study.
But kids take 5x that these days and it's no big deal. Nope. Doesn't work that way.
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Dark_Star]
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Dark_Star said: Nope. You're wrong, and I will continue to point that out. This forum is about dispelling misinformation, and you're spouting out misinformation about one of my most beloved substances. I'm sick & tired of the rep acid has these days because clueless people keep spouting off numbers that they're in no position to be throwing around. You're posting in a forum with a lot of history, and a lot of people with a lot of experience. Not "bought it off the dark net" experience. If you want to boast about eating massive doses like it's nothing without getting called out then go post somewhere else. Otherwise eat a slice of humble pie & learn something.
You are a very stupid man. I am not "spouting out misinformation," I simply stated how I had previously taken 500ug of LSD and been fine. I never boasted about eating massive doses - you're just painfully ignorant. I only stated this to give some context to the intensity of my trip, which is the main subject of this thread (something you cannot seem to grasp.) Multiple people have told you that you are not contributing to this thread at all, which is true. All I wanted to know was if the drug I tripped on could have really been 2cb. I'll ask you again: please leave my thread and don't come back.
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Dark_Star]
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Dark_Star said: Nope. You're wrong, and I will continue to point that out. This forum is about dispelling misinformation, and you're spouting out misinformation about one of my most beloved substances. I'm sick & tired of the rep acid has these days because clueless people keep spouting off numbers that they're in no position to be throwing around. You're posting in a forum with a lot of history, and a lot of people with a lot of experience. Not "bought it off the dark net" experience. If you want to boast about eating massive doses like it's nothing without getting called out then go post somewhere else. Otherwise eat a slice of humble pie & learn something.
Love2Love there is no debate. 500 mics is a massive dose, and the subjectivity of the psychedelic experience doesn't change that. I'm a hardhead myself. There was a time when I ate milligrams at a time. At no point did I ever consider 500 mics not to be a massive dose. Because it's a massive fucking dose. Despite all my history, eating a lab tested 75 mic hit got me high a couple years back. Not spun, but high, there were visuals. I knew it was weak though, meanwhile folks on this board were raving about them & they were rated at 120 mics. In regards to Albert, he ate 250 mics on more then one occasion, and would never go higher. Cause he kept getting that high. It wasn't just that first time.
Here's a solid example. This guy took 100 mics of Sandoz. Not "dark net L brah, rated at yadda yadda yadda". Not L bought on lot. 100 mics of pharmaceutical LSD taken in a genuine study.
But kids take 5x that these days and it's no big deal. Nope. Doesn't work that way.
I'm going to stop the discussion because it is debilitating into one of semantics, which I think is worthless. The way I see it, "massive" means something stronger than you do. There is no doubt that 500ug isn't very fucking strong. Of course it is. But it's nothing like being puddled. I have been in no way trying to brag about taking lots of drugs. That is stupid.
However, the subjectivity of the experience most certainly changes it. If someone only doses LSD between 0 - 300ug, then 500ug is a massive dose for him. If someone doses LSD between 0 - 1,500ug, then 500ug is not a massive dose for him. See? Doesn't mean that 500ug is not strong.
And of course a 75ug tab got you high.. why the hell wouldn't it?? 100ug of acid is still very strong comparatively. But that's the nature of LSD. It's a strong experience. So within this scope, the term "massive" becomes inflated.
And I know that Hofmann took it again and never exceeded 250ug. But we were talking about thinking he died, which he only did the first time.
You seem to be caught up in telling everyone they are getting acid weaker than they think they have as an automatic response, and are ignoring what's in front of your face because of that.
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Love2Love]
#22508285 - 11/11/15 08:11 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Can we get bac ti the main topic of 2cb and it's subjective effects. This is one I'm looking forward to trying soon do any input would be awesome
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Heisencybin]
#22508407 - 11/11/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Two things.
1. I remember taking the 2cb after the peak of mushrooms was very good. What you get is that all the confusion of the shroom peak make place for the clear headedness of the 2cb, while on the other hand the trip does not diminish like it normally does after the shroom peak. Instead you are now going on another 2-4 hour journey. It's like fade-out, fade-in with two different trips. Very good.
2. 2cb, if it's the real thing, is the only drug I know that, for me, was actually compatible with eroticism. As in, fully functional libidinous action. I mean, mdma etc feels erotic all right, but somehow does not allow me to function on a healthy level. And other psychs are either too confusing or, like lsd, do not allow the attention span I need for successful action.
Perhaps this is different for different people though...
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Hanz]
#22513962 - 11/12/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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The lack of a clear head space (LSD was much more manageable) should be a giveaway that I did not take 2cb, no?
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: TrippyWhale]
#22514086 - 11/12/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would say so, yes. Though it's hard to say how much clear head space would remain on very high doses of actual 2cb.
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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Love2Love]
#22518491 - 11/13/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Actually it is the same thing as getting puddled, as most puddles wind up not being much more than that. This isn't about semantics; it's about the dosage of an extremely powerful psychoactive substance. The effects of a drug may be subjective, but the dose itself isn't. I've eaten up to ~3,000 mics without a tolerance before. Not doses "rated at", but crystal laid by friends. Nothing crazy potent....just solid doses. 30+ hits at once. I'm not saying that to swing my dick, but to prove a point. That doesn't change the fact that 500 mics is a massive dose. Nor would I consider eating anywhere near 500 now. Eating as much as I once did was counterproductive, and I got nothing out of it that haven't gotten out of 1/15 of that. Liking strong trips is one thing. Completely flooding your system with a drug is another entirely. I was reckless & dumb in all aspects of my life back then.
I'm not caught up in anything other than correcting misinformation. The majority of people are clueless as to the actual potency of LSD, and this is evident all over this forum. What's in front of your face are people with years of experience....not just me, sharing knowledge. Accept that or not, we're still right.
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