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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: madmodder]
    #22500725 - 11/09/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I did not smoke any weed during the trip. The smell of the smoke from the blunt that was being passed around was so putrid I had to physically run away (same with my friend...how weird right?).

I've always been the best with controlling myself while tripping, but this stuff was a whole other world (VERY close to ~40mg DMT). When looking down at the ground I literally saw people (ents, like on DMT) that were not there standing around me waving in my face.

The only conclusion I can come to is that it was probably another 2C-X or crazy RC. Really wish I would have had a proper 2cb encounter after hearing all the great things about it, but probably won't try it again out of fear for tripping my god damn balls off again lol.


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Hanz]
    #22501315 - 11/09/15 04:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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maybe they gave u 200mg instead of 20mg haha



Haha I doubt it. The amount in the capsule was literally a very small pinch.




From what I've read about 2C-E, about 30-40mg of 2C-E could do all that. It could have been 2C-E.

Then again, it could have been anything. Perhaps a microgram active substance laced onto some other 2C-x.

Love, Hanz.



I was going to say the same thing, but the come up time for oral ingestion doesn't match what I experienced when I ate my 2c-e. The overwhelming visuals match as well, which is one of the most memorable parts of my single oral 2c-e experience.


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: TrippyWhale]
    #22501550 - 11/09/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I did not smoke any weed during the trip. The smell of the smoke from the blunt that was being passed around was so putrid I had to physically run away (same with my friend...how weird right?).

I've always been the best with controlling myself while tripping, but this stuff was a whole other world (VERY close to ~40mg DMT). When looking down at the ground I literally saw people (ents, like on DMT) that were not there standing around me waving in my face.

The only conclusion I can come to is that it was probably another 2C-X or crazy RC. Really wish I would have had a proper 2cb encounter after hearing all the great things about it, but probably won't try it again out of fear for tripping my god damn balls off again lol.



Well you're alive and it sounded like you tripped sack so thats a good time dude regardless


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: TrippyWhale] * 1
    #22501664 - 11/09/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

No 500 mics is a massive dose. I speak from years of experience, not just taking it, but being involved in the distribution networks, right below the folks laying the crystal. That aspect was many years ago. Doses "rated at" means jack fucking shit. Everyone says that shit. I can't tell you how many 130-150 mic rated hits over the last few years actually test to 70-80 mics when sent to a lab. Albert Hofmann took 250 mics and thought he was dead. Yet kids these days can take 500 mics like it's no big deal? :lol: Nope. I've taken that dose & more many times. Knowingly cause It was laid by friends. Also eaten many that had been sent to a lab.

Fact is that the vast majority of people these days don't have the foggiest idea of how potent LSD really is. You guys just eat up whatever dealers say, which is all sales hype. The crystal & dose always change as it moves down the line, and the customers are none the wiser. That's how this business works unfortunately.  If I had a dollar for everytime some kid on lot years back tried to sell me "150 mic needlepoint" that was actually 80-90 mics of silver my friends had laid the night before, or "100-120 mic" hits that were actually 50 mics, again from folks I was familar with, I could buy everyone in this thread a sheet. But of course everyone's dealers/vendors are different. Nope.

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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22502534 - 11/09/15 08:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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No 500 mics is a massive dose. I speak from years of experience, not just taking it, but being involved in the distribution networks, right below the folks laying the crystal. That aspect was many years ago. Doses "rated at" means jack fucking shit. Everyone says that shit. I can't tell you how many 130-150 mic rated hits over the last few years actually test to 70-80 mics when sent to a lab. Albert Hofmann took 250 mics and thought he was dead. Yet kids these days can take 500 mics like it's no big deal? :lol: Nope. I've taken that dose & more many times. Knowingly cause It was laid by friends. Also eaten many that had been sent to a lab.

Fact is that the vast majority of people these days don't have the foggiest idea of how potent LSD really is. You guys just eat up whatever dealers say, which is all sales hype. The crystal & dose always change as it moves down the line, and the customers are none the wiser. That's how this business works unfortunately.  If I had a dollar for everytime some kid on lot years back tried to sell me "150 mic needlepoint" that was actually 80-90 mics of silver my friends had laid the night before, or "100-120 mic" hits that were actually 50 mics, again from folks I was familar with, I could buy everyone in this thread a sheet. But of course everyone's dealers/vendors are different. Nope.

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Good for you that you have had that access. You're lucky. But you know what, you're not the only lucky one, so there's no need to dismiss someone anytime they say they knew the dose of what they were taking.


I'm not disagreeing at all that in general doses are much much lower than they say. Of course they are. But I also have hope that people would only quote a figure if they knew - benefit of the doubt and whatnot. I know I would only say it was 500ug if I knew it was and 5 hits or whatever if I didn't.

I wouldn't go so far as to call 500ug a massive dose either for someone who is experienced. For some it is, for some it isn't. It certainly isn't mild, but just because someone can handle themselves on 500ug doesn't mean they aren't on 500ug.


Also -- Albert Hofmann thought he was dead because he just discovered some random chemical that he had no idea the effects of, ingested it, and had a strong LSD trip. Go figure.


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Love2Love]
    #22503284 - 11/10/15 01:26 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I wouldn't go so far as to call 500ug a massive dose either for someone who is experienced. For some it is, for some it isn't. It certainly isn't mild, but just because someone can handle themselves on 500ug doesn't mean they aren't on 500ug.





There is no debate whatsover that 500 mics is a massive dose. You kids and your "reliable sources" are a joke. Good for dark_star for pointing that out.


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22506085 - 11/10/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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No 500 mics is a massive dose. I speak from years of experience, not just taking it, but being involved in the distribution networks, right below the folks laying the crystal. That aspect was many years ago. Doses "rated at" means jack fucking shit. Everyone says that shit. I can't tell you how many 130-150 mic rated hits over the last few years actually test to 70-80 mics when sent to a lab. Albert Hofmann took 250 mics and thought he was dead. Yet kids these days can take 500 mics like it's no big deal? :lol: Nope. I've taken that dose & more many times. Knowingly cause It was laid by friends. Also eaten many that had been sent to a lab.

Fact is that the vast majority of people these days don't have the foggiest idea of how potent LSD really is. You guys just eat up whatever dealers say, which is all sales hype. The crystal & dose always change as it moves down the line, and the customers are none the wiser. That's how this business works unfortunately.  If I had a dollar for everytime some kid on lot years back tried to sell me "150 mic needlepoint" that was actually 80-90 mics of silver my friends had laid the night before, or "100-120 mic" hits that were actually 50 mics, again from folks I was familar with, I could buy everyone in this thread a sheet. But of course everyone's dealers/vendors are different. Nope.

:themoreyouknow:




Nope. I took 500 mics, deal with it. Sorry you're not the only one who has taken that much :sad: Why do you feel the need to pretend to be apart of some exclusive group? Because YOU and only YOU know the true amount of LSD I took that day? No, please gtfo of my thread. You have done nothing but derail this thread and add negativity. Do not come back.


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22506555 - 11/10/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I wouldn't go so far as to call 500ug a massive dose either for someone who is experienced. For some it is, for some it isn't. It certainly isn't mild, but just because someone can handle themselves on 500ug doesn't mean they aren't on 500ug.





There is no debate whatsover that 500 mics is a massive dose. You kids and your "reliable sources" are a joke. Good for dark_star for pointing that out.




It is ridiculous to say that there is no debate and it's black and white about something that is inherently subjective. Some people are hardheads, and some people just like to go deep.

And I don't appreciate you calling me a kid and a joke. There is no need for that. I earnestly plead for you to conduct yourself in a more respectful manner in the future.


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: TrippyWhale]
    #22506772 - 11/10/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Nope. You're wrong, and I will continue to point that out. This forum is about dispelling misinformation, and you're spouting out misinformation about one of my most beloved substances. I'm sick & tired of the rep acid has these days because clueless people keep spouting off numbers that they're in no position to be throwing around. You're posting in a forum with a lot of history, and a lot of people with a lot of experience. Not "bought it off the dark net" experience. If you want to boast about eating massive doses like it's nothing without getting called out then go post somewhere else. Otherwise eat a slice of humble pie & learn something.

Love2Love there is no debate. 500 mics is a massive dose, and the subjectivity of the psychedelic experience doesn't change that. I'm a hardhead myself. There was a time when I ate milligrams at a time. At no point did I ever consider 500 mics not to be a massive dose. Because it's a massive fucking dose. Despite all my history, eating a lab tested 75 mic hit got me high a couple years back. Not spun, but high, there were visuals. I knew it was weak though, meanwhile folks on this board were raving about them & they were rated at 120 mics. In regards to Albert, he ate 250 mics on more then one occasion, and would never go higher. Cause he kept getting that high. It wasn't just that first time.

Here's a solid example. This guy took 100 mics of Sandoz. Not "dark net L brah, rated at yadda yadda yadda". Not L bought on lot. 100 mics of pharmaceutical LSD taken in a genuine study.



But kids take 5x that these days and it's no big deal. :burke: Nope. Doesn't work that way.


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22506822 - 11/10/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Nope. You're wrong, and I will continue to point that out. This forum is about dispelling misinformation, and you're spouting out misinformation about one of my most beloved substances. I'm sick & tired of the rep acid has these days because clueless people keep spouting off numbers that they're in no position to be throwing around. You're posting in a forum with a lot of history, and a lot of people with a lot of experience. Not "bought it off the dark net" experience. If you want to boast about eating massive doses like it's nothing without getting called out then go post somewhere else. Otherwise eat a slice of humble pie & learn something.





You are a very stupid man. I am not "spouting out misinformation," I simply stated how I had previously taken 500ug of LSD and been fine. I never boasted about eating massive doses - you're just painfully ignorant. I only stated this to give some context to the intensity of my trip, which is the main subject of this thread (something you cannot seem to grasp.) Multiple people have told you that you are not contributing to this thread at all, which is true. All I wanted to know was if the drug I tripped on could have really been 2cb. I'll ask you again: please leave my thread and don't come back.


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22507447 - 11/10/15 10:44 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Nope. You're wrong, and I will continue to point that out. This forum is about dispelling misinformation, and you're spouting out misinformation about one of my most beloved substances. I'm sick & tired of the rep acid has these days because clueless people keep spouting off numbers that they're in no position to be throwing around. You're posting in a forum with a lot of history, and a lot of people with a lot of experience. Not "bought it off the dark net" experience. If you want to boast about eating massive doses like it's nothing without getting called out then go post somewhere else. Otherwise eat a slice of humble pie & learn something.

Love2Love there is no debate. 500 mics is a massive dose, and the subjectivity of the psychedelic experience doesn't change that. I'm a hardhead myself. There was a time when I ate milligrams at a time. At no point did I ever consider 500 mics not to be a massive dose. Because it's a massive fucking dose. Despite all my history, eating a lab tested 75 mic hit got me high a couple years back. Not spun, but high, there were visuals. I knew it was weak though, meanwhile folks on this board were raving about them & they were rated at 120 mics. In regards to Albert, he ate 250 mics on more then one occasion, and would never go higher. Cause he kept getting that high. It wasn't just that first time.

Here's a solid example. This guy took 100 mics of Sandoz. Not "dark net L brah, rated at yadda yadda yadda". Not L bought on lot. 100 mics of pharmaceutical LSD taken in a genuine study.



But kids take 5x that these days and it's no big deal. :burke: Nope. Doesn't work that way.




I'm going to stop the discussion because it is debilitating into one of semantics, which I think is worthless. The way I see it, "massive" means something stronger than you do. There is no doubt that 500ug isn't very fucking strong. Of course it is. But it's nothing like being puddled. I have been in no way trying to brag about taking lots of drugs. That is stupid.

However, the subjectivity of the experience most certainly changes it. If someone only doses LSD between 0 - 300ug, then 500ug is a massive dose for him. If someone doses LSD between 0 - 1,500ug, then 500ug is not a massive dose for him. See? Doesn't mean that 500ug is not strong.

And of course a 75ug tab got you high.. why the hell wouldn't it?? 100ug of acid is still very strong comparatively. But that's the nature of LSD. It's a strong experience. So within this scope, the term "massive" becomes inflated.

And I know that Hofmann took it again and never exceeded 250ug. But we were talking about thinking he died, which he only did the first time.

You seem to be caught up in telling everyone they are getting acid weaker than they think they have as an automatic response, and are ignoring what's in front of your face because of that.


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Love2Love]
    #22508285 - 11/11/15 08:11 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Can we get bac ti the main topic of 2cb and it's subjective effects. This is one I'm looking forward to trying soon do any input would be awesome :wink:


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22508407 - 11/11/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Two things.

1. I remember taking the 2cb after the peak of mushrooms was very good. What you get is that all the confusion of the shroom peak make place for the clear headedness of the 2cb, while on the other hand the trip does not diminish like it normally does after the shroom peak. Instead you are now going on another 2-4 hour journey. It's like fade-out, fade-in with two different trips. Very good.

2. 2cb, if it's the real thing, is the only drug I know that, for me, was actually compatible with eroticism. As in, fully functional libidinous action. I mean, mdma etc feels erotic all right, but somehow does not allow me to function on a healthy level. And other psychs are either too confusing or, like lsd, do not allow the attention span I need for successful action.

Perhaps this is different for different people though...


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Hanz]
    #22513962 - 11/12/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The lack of a clear head space (LSD was much more manageable) should be a giveaway that I did not take 2cb, no?


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: TrippyWhale]
    #22514086 - 11/12/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I would say so, yes. Though it's hard to say how much clear head space would remain on very high doses of actual 2cb.

:heart: Hanz.


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Love2Love]
    #22518491 - 11/13/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Actually it is the same thing as getting puddled, as most puddles wind up not being much more than that. This isn't about semantics; it's about the dosage of an extremely powerful psychoactive substance. The effects of a drug may be subjective, but the dose itself isn't. I've eaten up to ~3,000 mics without a tolerance before. Not doses "rated at", but crystal laid by friends. Nothing crazy potent....just solid doses. 30+ hits at once. I'm not saying that to swing my dick, but to prove a point. That doesn't change the fact that 500 mics is a massive dose. Nor would I consider eating anywhere near 500 now. Eating as much as I once did was counterproductive, and I got nothing out of it that haven't gotten out of 1/15 of that. Liking strong trips is one thing. Completely flooding your system with a drug is another entirely. I was reckless & dumb in all aspects of my life back then.

I'm not caught up in anything other than correcting misinformation. The majority of people are clueless as to the actual potency of LSD, and this is evident all over this forum. What's in front of your face are people with years of experience....not just me, sharing knowledge. Accept that or not, we're still right.


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