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Was what I took really 2cb?
    #22493035 - 11/07/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Hello!

Yesterday 2 friends and I took 20mg of 2cb for the first time. It was pre weighed in a gel capsule - looked like a very small amount of white powder. I was expecting a very lucid, easy to control trip with some euphoria like people say, but that is not what we got.

It kicked in about 45 minutes after ingestion, and puked during the come up. During the peak the visuals were the most intense I've ever experienced. I could barely see anything. I've taken LSD numerous times, shrooms, and DMT. I would like to consider myself a pretty experienced tripper - 500ug of LSD was completely fine for me. This stuff came close to or maybe even exceeded the intensity and visuals from DMT. We were all very scared and confused (complete ego loss), but found some trip sitters to sit with us through it. We eventually came out of it, and each agreed that it had taken a toll on our minds. I experienced no euphoria. I also smoke weed very frequently but when the trip sitters began to smoke the smell was repulsive and I had to get away (so did one of my friends). This effect is still kind of there when I smell weed, but no where near the extent during the trip.

What we got was nothing compared to other 20mg 2cb trip reports - we were completely dysfunctional, definitely would not be able to party on it like some people do. I've never taken ayahuasca, but I imagine that trip is what it'd be like. Is there anyway we actually took 2cb? How could this have happened? Thank you.

Also, if it matters I took amoxicillin the day before, but I doubt that has anything to do with it since we all tripped very hard.


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: TrippyWhale]
    #22493047 - 11/07/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

maybe they gave u 200mg instead of 20mg haha


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Sheekle]
    #22493188 - 11/07/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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maybe they gave u 200mg instead of 20mg haha



Haha I doubt it. The amount in the capsule was literally a very small pinch.


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: TrippyWhale]
    #22493297 - 11/07/15 10:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

IDK, i've taken like 12mg of 2CB and it basically just made me "roll". But I heard there's a steep dosage-response curve with 2C's


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: TrippyWhale]
    #22493305 - 11/07/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I always have to laugh when I see people talk about 500 mics like it's nothing. You've been over estimating your LSD dosages. In regards to the capsule, no one here can answer that. Could've been any number of drugs.


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22493533 - 11/07/15 11:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I always have to laugh when I see people talk about 500 mics like it's nothing. You've been over estimating your LSD dosages. In regards to the capsule, no one here can answer that. Could've been any number of drugs.




IF you mean that I'm just guessing I took 500ug, then no. I knew the amount in each tab. It was from a VERY reliable source and has been tested before. From what I've gathered 500ug of LSD should be a much more intense trip than 20mg of 2cb.


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: TrippyWhale]
    #22493548 - 11/07/15 11:27 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

It is. You said it was completely fine for you, then mentioned DMT strength visuals & ego loss from the mystery capsule. No way have you actually taken anywhere near 500 mics of LSD if what you just described caught you off guard & was more intense than the "500 mic" trip.


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22493565 - 11/07/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I doubt it was 2cb. It could have been a much higher dose of 2cb, but from the details, it doesn't sound like it.

A high dose can leave you unable to function, but you will feel fantastic. And no matter the dose, there's not really ego death.


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: TrippyWhale]
    #22493582 - 11/07/15 11:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Nah, you were guessing. Plenty of "reliable sources" vastly overhype their doses. Particularly DNM vendors that post about their shit being tested. When customers send them for a test the results come back way less. 500 mics is a massive dose. If your description of the cap was more intense then 500 mics, you didn't take anywhere near 500 mics, end of story.


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22495820 - 11/08/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Nah, you were guessing. Plenty of "reliable sources" vastly overhype their doses. Particularly DNM vendors that post about their shit being tested. When customers send them for a test the results come back way less. 500 mics is a massive dose. If your description of the cap was more intense then 500 mics, you didn't take anywhere near 500 mics, end of story.



Again, no. The tabs were rated at 110-130ug from House of Spirits. I took 500ug dude lol, that is not that massive of a dose really. Yes it was also intense but I was in control and loved it. Sorry I can handle some LSD? Just because you react differently doesn't mean you can just dismiss the fact that I DID take 500mics. That trip was also very immersive and strong but not like this one.

The shit I took was way more intense, visually and mentally, and had no euphoria, which was why I am guessing it might not have been 2cb. That was the original question - how could 20mg of "2cb" be much more intense and uncontrollable than other trips I've had in high doses.


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: TrippyWhale]
    #22498811 - 11/09/15 01:12 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

man... Dark_Star, you are really being smugly dismissive for no good reason. He asks a question and you tear him apart for a single detail in the OP, that mind you does not pertain to his question since 20mg of 2C-B will not elicit that type of response in anyone.

@Trippywhale: be glad you're safe and don't take mysterious powders again. Use reagent tests!!


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: TrippyWhale]
    #22499622 - 11/09/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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maybe they gave u 200mg instead of 20mg haha



Haha I doubt it. The amount in the capsule was literally a very small pinch.




From what I've read about 2C-E, about 30-40mg of 2C-E could do all that. It could have been 2C-E.

Then again, it could have been anything. Perhaps a microgram active substance laced onto some other 2C-x.

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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #22499835 - 11/09/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I always have to laugh when I see people talk about 500 mics like it's nothing. You've been over estimating your LSD dosages. In regards to the capsule, no one here can answer that. Could've been any number of drugs.




In my town not only is the L really bad quality but it's dosed very low. I can't but help assume that it's like this in other places and people just don't KNOW. You have to show them what a real dose is and they're BLOWN away.


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: dixienormous]
    #22499994 - 11/09/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

What's the difference between 2C-B 2c-e and 2c-i? I've heard best things from 2cb, but posts like this scare me to try it


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22500389 - 11/09/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I've only used 2c-b, I believe. But from what I've heard 2C-E is the most aggressively psychedelic, and with a very sensitive dose response curve. 5mg too much and you are totally tripping balls. I'm still interested in trying it, but will dose very conservatively.

Bottom line is Shulgin thought 2C-B was the best, and the stories out there confirm this, I think. When I did my 2C-B, many years ago, I was not aware of any other 2C-X's other than perhaps 2C-T(7). I assume I did actual 2C-B, but of course there is no way to know now.

I do suspect though, some of the pills that are currently sold as 2C-B could very well be a mixture of other, cheaper 2C-X's like -C, -D, and/or E.

Do a search, on this site, or the erowid experience vault. Some good stories to compare 2C-X's will come up.

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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Hanz]
    #22500398 - 11/09/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks I will :smile: I've heard both positive and negatives from 2cb. I love L and mush so it's reasonable for me to be curious


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22500410 - 11/09/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

It might have been due to the weed. I took 2cb a couple days ago for the first time. It was 23 mgs from a buddy. It's a bit dissaciocative, and pretty visual. It wasn't a big thing until I got home and smoked a bowl on the comedown.

My eyes exploded with visuals and weird auditory hallucinations. Like a cartoon naked man with a beard singing some weird song and then "leaving" my space. The weed increased the intensity quite a bit.

If you were high when you dosed, and then smoke later, I could see all these effects from 2cb. If you didn't smoke at all until the trip, you might have taken another chemical or a much higher dose.

Or you could just have not liked 2cb. Some people really can't handle the dissociative effects and just don't like 2cb.


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Achillita]
    #22500471 - 11/09/15 01:18 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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It might have been due to the weed. I took 2cb a couple days ago for the first time. It was 23 mgs from a buddy. It's a bit dissaciocative, and pretty visual. It wasn't a big thing until I got home and smoked a bowl on the comedown.

My eyes exploded with visuals and weird auditory hallucinations. Like a cartoon naked man with a beard singing some weird song and then "leaving" my space. The weed increased the intensity quite a bit.

If you were high when you dosed, and then smoke later, I could see all these effects from 2cb. If you didn't smoke at all until the trip, you might have taken another chemical or a much higher dose.

Or you could just have not liked 2cb. Some people really can't handle the dissociative effects and just don't like 2cb.



Even when i eat a very small dose like 1.5g of shrooms and smoke a few bowls it is a major change vs just eating 1.5gs alone, I've never done andy 2C anything but i'm assuming it'd be similar/or stronger and intensify the effects. But who knows haha


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #22500521 - 11/09/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

With 2cb, smoking weed is even stronger than on any other psychedelics. It definitely makes the 2cb trip much, much stronger. I was on the latter end of the comedown and smoking weed was stronger than 2cb by itself.

Weed and 2cb are hella strong together.


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Re: Was what I took really 2cb? [Re: Achillita]
    #22500648 - 11/09/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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With 2cb, smoking weed is even stronger than on any other psychedelics. It definitely makes the 2cb trip much, much stronger. I was on the latter end of the comedown and smoking weed was stronger than 2cb by itself.

Weed and 2cb are hella strong together.



They affect me differently
To me the two highs don't mix, they layer up, like i'll be tripping balls, and then smoke some weed, but then i'm just stoned on top of tripping balls, like trying to mix oil and water :shrug:
With tryptamines when I smoke it makes the trip crazier and makes the tone of the trip different.

I just can't imagine it being 2cb based on no euphoria, because for me it is one of the most euphoric substances, but still drugs affect people differently so who knows :shrug:


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