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candela
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Weed vs. Shrooms (Analytic Thought Patterns)
#22492324 - 11/07/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Edited by candela (11/10/15 01:23 PM)
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Re: Weed vs. Shrooms (Analytic Thought Patterns) [Re: candela]
#22492365 - 11/07/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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you can compare large amounts of edibles to shrooms somewhat, but truthfully shrooms is a much much more intense -and interesting- experience usually. With shrooms you will even at 2 grams generally, think ridiculously weird things, find things imbued with tremendous significance and find reality to feel very tenuous and malleable. Thoughts loop and echo, go strange places and -usually- come back in one piece 
shrooms are awesome, but don't go in expecting it to be much like weed
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Re: Weed vs. Shrooms (Analytic Thought Patterns) [Re: candela]
#22493088 - 11/07/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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^(Good answer from Ezuma.)
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candela said:What is a shrooms "thought pattern" like? Is it similar to weed, or do your thoughts bounce all over the place "randomly".
Shroom 'thought patterns' are extremely variable and unpredictable. So are people's minds, or ways of thinking. So it's difficult to predict, but short answer would be more "random". Personally I tend towards analysis to the point of obsession and excessive anxiety. Shrooms allow me to slow down enough to get some distance from my thoughts. The thoughts that do occur to me while tripping are typically less obsessive and more creative. Sometimes, like a child, I'll simply get lost in the moment and won't think of anything--which is tremendously cathartic for a perpetual worrier like myself. Your reaction could be completely different. That's why it's a "trip". You and your friends could book the same tickets to an exotic country, but you will not have a unified internal experience. You'll each bring and take back different things from the same place.
Here's something I wish I learned a long time ago: After your psychedelic experience, consider how you want to integrate it into your day-to-day life. This is often the hardest part, but it pays the longest-lasting dividends in the Department of Wisdom.
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Re: Weed vs. Shrooms (Analytic Thought Patterns) [Re: candela]
#22493253 - 11/07/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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From erowid's effects for P. Cubensis 0.75g to 2.5g dry
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"Cold" feeling, gas and/or stomach discomfort, nausea, pupil dilation, open eye visual effects: lights exhibit auras, star-pattern effects, rainbowing around lighting, lights seem brighter and often "more beautiful", notice movement in periphery, sometimes increased ability to focus, sometimes reduced ability to focus,...
It depends on the dose and trip man. Sometimes you stay focused and clear headed. Other times really scattered or even confused but that normally happens only with higher doses
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Re: Weed vs. Shrooms (Analytic Thought Patterns) [Re: candela]
#22493612 - 11/07/15 11:45 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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candela said: Hi. I am about to dive into my first shroom experience in the near future and would like to know what to expect, as far as thought patterns are concerned.
All of my life I have taken "mind altering" plant substances (weed for the most part), but do to my current job, Ive had to stop and Ive been sober for a few years now.
I am in the need to grow as a person again, contrary to what people say, I think most of us take plant substances to grow as people (grow socially, grow emotionally, grow mentally, grow sexually, grow spiritually, etc)
Ive read online that employers dont test for psilocybin, so I am going to be delving into mushrooms very soon, but I had a question...
Are shrooms like weed, as far as "analytic" thought patterns?
I love to think deep, and I remember when I use to smoke alot of weed, I can think about something "very analytically" over and over again. It would help me figure stuff out and grow as a person.
What is a shrooms "thought pattern" like? Is it similar to weed, or do your thoughts bounce all over the place "randomly".
Can someone sit down and write there thoughts while on a shroom trip, like you can on weed?
What your thought patterns are like on shrooms is highly variable and depends on set, setting and dosage. There is more variability in thought patterns with shrooms vs weed. For instance, with weed you can experience many highs that are all somewhat similar to each other. However with mushrooms, you can have one sort of trip one week and then a much different trip a week later.
Thought patterns on psilocybin are generally greatly accelerated, more so than with weed. As the dose increases it becomes harder to control thoughts/direct/complete them. It is actually recommended you lay down all thoughts/turn off your mind on shrooms.
I would say if you want something with thought patterns like weed, you should go for mescaline or LSD. Those, are both much more similar to weed than psilocybin, in my experience. They are analytical and help you think better, whereas mushrooms tend be confusing and disruptive to thinking. Mushrooms are much more about feeling and intuiting than thinking.
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Edited by Peyote Road (11/07/15 11:47 PM)
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Re: Weed vs. Shrooms (Analytic Thought Patterns) [Re: candela]
#22495263 - 11/08/15 11:27 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Everybody has given great comparisons in this thread. I was in a similar situation to you with a job. So I'll share my experience. I tried replacing weed with shrooms and I can tell you, It doesn't work like that. Shrooms are simply not a substitute. Now, that being said, Shrooms, or any other psychedelic for that matter, are worth every second of the experience. But, they are different tools than cannabis. You can have amazing realizations, connectivity and "ah-ha!" moments while tripping. And, psychedelics can be extremely analytical. But they are in a different way than cannabis. Personally, I like the synergy of cannabis and psychedelics. Also, I feel that smoking during the week or so after a trip help immensely with integration of the trip.
One other thing you should know, since this is your first experience: The psychedelic experience will change the way that you perceive the world. Permanently. Now, this is not a bad thing. >99% of the time, the change is for the better. But, don't go into your trip with the mind set that you are replacing cannabis with mushrooms, or you will be in for a stomping by the shrooms. Good luck and enjoy!
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Re: Weed vs. Shrooms (Analytic Thought Patterns) [Re: Ezuma]
#23286140 - 05/29/16 09:37 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't find even high doses of 11-Hydroxy-THC to be anything comparable to mushrooms. Why do people compare mushrooms to weed? It's so bizarre and mushrooms are just so alien you just..could never...
That's like comparing Ayahuasca to weed. Mushrooms are a crazy ass sacred entheogen in my book and a very serious entheogen that is a transdimensional doorway to other realms. Weed could never compare to such a thing. I mean I understand comparing it maybe to acid or 2C-B but not mushrooms man. Mushrooms are a crazy galactic adventure, an intense pensively cathartic experience where you feel like you're in the presences of eternal and humorous alien entities. It's off-world. Mushrooms feels like going 10 million years into the past and 10 million years into the future all at the same time. Or what we have come as human beings to conceptualize as "time" With psilocybin mushrooms though you can enter etheric realms completely adjacent to such a concept.
Overall I find weed more vibrational and spacey like LSD and more prone to LSD-like thought patterns. Mushrooms are just way too deep and dynamic. Something that timeless and emotional could never be compared to pot.
Edited by AuroraBorealis88 (05/29/16 09:45 PM)
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Re: Weed vs. Shrooms (Analytic Thought Patterns) [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23286164 - 05/29/16 09:47 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think the two are too far different to compare
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Re: Weed vs. Shrooms (Analytic Thought Patterns) [Re: DMTraveler]
#23286292 - 05/29/16 10:33 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't understand comparing the two.
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Re: Weed vs. Shrooms (Analytic Thought Patterns) [Re: SonicTitan]
#23286855 - 05/30/16 02:57 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm high-functioning autistic and am very sensitive to psychoactives in general.
When I first smoked the green herb a few years ago it felt like a shroom trip effect wise. The serotonin-like euphoria was missing and the conscious perspective changes weren't exactly the same but I had some of the most intense OEVs/CEVs, out-of-body experiences, hyper-conscious awareness and in general felt extremely child-like with a heavy sense of deja vu. The experiences also felt like I was watching myself from a third person perspective.
These are all effects I also experience on shrooms (although shrooms to me seem like everything MJ gives me + more). This could possibly be my natural heightened sense of awareness thanks to autism. My low tolerance or high sensitivity is also a major factor I'm sure. Regardless, I find MJ just as psychedelic as shrooms except it doesn't cover the entire "holistic" range of effects. The analytical thought patterns I find are much more easier to remember and work with on MJ than shrooms where they tend to be very prophetic/epiphanyic.
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Edited by Shivara (05/30/16 03:04 AM)
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Re: Weed vs. Shrooms (Analytic Thought Patterns) [Re: Shivara]
#23287836 - 05/30/16 11:04 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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How was it similar to shrooms though? Just because they both give psychedelic effects doesn't mean they're comparable..why shrooms? Why not LSD? I don't see any relationship between THC and the shroom headspace I really don't. That's like comparing weed to Iboga.
I even found salvia and acid to be more comparable to weed than the fungus. Shrooms is just too different and too unique. And in average to high doses mushrooms become just about the most preeminent entheogen/psychedelic I can think of.
And no weed is not anywhere near as psychedelic as mushrooms. Weed isn't even as psychedelic as the 2Cs so how are you gonna say it's anything close to the tryptamines especially psilocybin? Psilocybin isn't even anywhere close to being an "average psychedelic" people treat it like it's an average psychedelic even though it's the least average and probably the second or third most powerful and alien.
Edited by AuroraBorealis88 (05/30/16 11:06 AM)
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Re: Weed vs. Shrooms (Analytic Thought Patterns) [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23287912 - 05/30/16 11:26 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I feel like shrooms acctually increase pattern recognition and allow me to see and feel patters waaaaay better. I can see thought patterns as graphs of mathematical functions and colours and stuff like that. Weed just makes me think everything i do is stupid so i over analyze things. They can both be beneficial.
They have totally different methods of action and effects though so i dont really like comparing them.
Edited by BANANA.MAN (05/30/16 11:35 AM)
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Re: Weed vs. Shrooms (Analytic Thought Patterns) [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23288869 - 05/30/16 04:29 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you never smoke weed, and then take a couple good sized dabs back to back, it will certainly feel just as powerful if not more than a shroom trip for a little while. They are two totally different experiences, but they can be compared imo.
I've been smoking weed for well over a decade so this doesn't apply to me, but I have taken dabs after a tolerance break and had my mind blown as to the true power of pot. I've also taken Shrooms at varying dosages for years as well.
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Re: Weed vs. Shrooms (Analytic Thought Patterns) [Re: Supachopped719]
#23289405 - 05/30/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Strong dose psilocybin
Vs
Strong dose of cannabis

Shrooms win
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Re: Weed vs. Shrooms (Analytic Thought Patterns) [Re: DMTraveler]
#23290005 - 05/30/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Even a low dose of shrooms would win that
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Re: Weed vs. Shrooms (Analytic Thought Patterns) [Re: DMTraveler]
#23290009 - 05/30/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I never said a strong dose of mushrooms. I said multiple dabs with zero tolerance can be as strong or stronger than mushrooms, of course not a big dose of mushrooms, but an eighth of cubes, sure.
Sounds like you haven't dabbed with no tolerance before.
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Re: Weed vs. Shrooms (Analytic Thought Patterns) [Re: Supachopped719]
#23290010 - 05/30/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Supachopped719 said: If you never smoke weed, and then take a couple good sized dabs back to back, it will certainly feel just as powerful if not more than a shroom trip for a little while.
Ha fuuuuuuck nooo
It is nowhere near as powerful. It can surely be just as if not more intense but that has nothing to do with how powerful it is on the mind
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Re: Weed vs. Shrooms (Analytic Thought Patterns) [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23290016 - 05/30/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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So you want to argue semantics?
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Re: Weed vs. Shrooms (Analytic Thought Patterns) [Re: Supachopped719]
#23290021 - 05/30/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dude you really think intensity has anything to do with how powerful it is? Jesus fucking christ
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Re: Weed vs. Shrooms (Analytic Thought Patterns) [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23290076 - 05/30/16 10:24 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Seriously though wtf man it's common knowledge that weed can be more intense than mushrooms or acid that doesn't mean it's freakin' more powerful ahaha that's not what powerful even means
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