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Re: Is dualism at the root of paranoia? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #22532194 - 11/16/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

well let's call them habits, which they are, and you can have a heroin habit, and you can have a shopping habit, or work habit, and they all can be destructive. Now you can have good habits, eg eating an apple everyday is a habit, but it is good for your health. Same with exercise. But some may overdo exercise and it can harm them. But with the hard drugs like heroin, coke, crack etc, you are skating on thin ice


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Re: Is dualism at the root of paranoia? [Re: nuentoter]
    #22532286 - 11/16/15 11:28 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Duality is a necessity of life. The initial step in reality is existence. Singularity. Being. Consciousness.

The second step is splitting the singularity.this creates observation. This creates subjectivity. The inner and the outer are created. This is necessary for consciousness to contemplate anything that it is not already. This is where imagination comes from.




You are confusing reality which manifests as dynamic processes, like light and dark, good and bad, etc with the psychological conceptual dividing OF this reality into parts whereby it is assumed you can have light without dark, good with out bad, life without death. THAT splitting/dividing by a mindset which then further believes one part is superior and the other inferior is the roots of paranoia, and evil


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Re: Is dualism at the root of paranoia? [Re: zzripz]
    #22532319 - 11/16/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think so,I believe they still act the same. The splitting of concepts creates duality in view. This is necessary to explore the idea and concept in full. It's the personal decision to stay with one end of the spectrum that produces paranoia.

Isolation in physical form and isolation in mindset creates paranoia.


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Re: Is dualism at the root of paranoia? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #22535822 - 11/17/15 02:10 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Isolation and addiction do go together. 




you don't think addicts shoot up together?
you don't think members of rock bands get addicted?
you think opium dens are solitary?
to say nothing of bars...
or raves, etc.


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Re: Is dualism at the root of paranoia? [Re: nuentoter]
    #22535839 - 11/17/15 02:20 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Paranoia is not caused by dualism.
Paranoia has different meanings.
One has to due with drug related incidents,
and the other has to do with a disease.
Neither is caused by philosophy.
The causes would seem to be both chemical,
and psychological.
The psychological cause might have to do with repressed self hatred/anger or hatred/anger of others -- in either case being projected onto the outside world and then being perceived as an attack.
The Childhood experience of feeling the repressed rage between unhappy parents, and being unable to integrate it could also be a cause.

Therapy and reality testing may help.


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Re: Is dualism at the root of paranoia? [Re: zzripz]
    #22538656 - 11/17/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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well let's call them habits, which they are, and you can have a heroin habit, and you can have a shopping habit, or work habit, and they all can be destructive. Now you can have good habits, eg eating an apple everyday is a habit, but it is good for your health. Same with exercise. But some may overdo exercise and it can harm them. But with the hard drugs like heroin, coke, crack etc, you are skating on thin ice




I think of a habit as something like biting your nails. Addiction is very similar to obsessions, where there's a repetitive cognitive request for action, that includes anxious anticipation. A habit, such as not going to bed on time, or picking your nose usually doesn't involve a voice in your head requesting action . . . Don't mean to split hairs, but I think the distinction is important. Most people who can't quit an addiction don't recognize the voice that encourages them to engage in the behavior.


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Re: Is dualism at the root of paranoia? [Re: laughingdog]
    #22538692 - 11/17/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Isolation and addiction do go together. 




you don't think addicts shoot up together?
you don't think members of rock bands get addicted?
you think opium dens are solitary?
to say nothing of bars...
or raves, etc.




Yes, drug addicts come together to use drugs. And yes, there's social interaction between drug addicts. I painted with a broad brush there . . . But addicts often isolate themselves from their loved ones. Addicts will leave their family and children and isolate themselves with their drug using friends.

Isolation and addiction often go hand in hand. Right now, at this moment across the world, there are millions of people using drugs alone, in a room by themselves.

Eating and gambling addictions are often engaged in alone. There's usually a lot of shame in addictions, and this can promote isolation.


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